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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:26 pm

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In post 172, Oman wrote:I don't like how harshly you reacted to Bulge's statements aimed at you, TTH. Calling it self serving drivel or the like (phone posting while visiting my folks) isn't valid. It's an overreaction at least. I think you're clouded by this "you are scum a day everything you say is lying manipulation" filter that you've set before your eyes. Bulge's comments to you could have been made by a townie, in innocence, though (from your perspective as a "confirmed town") mistaken.

So he randomly gets the benefit of the doubt but I don't?!

What the fuck is this bullshit?
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:28 pm

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In post 173, Oman wrote:vettrock > dookie/bulge > flaaaaaames

Damn straight that ain't winning you any paragon awards.

Justify this list. Starting with vettrock.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:28 pm

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In post 162, The Bulge wrote:I don't get why I'm getting shit for this when Flames has just as many posts as I do but with even less content. Just saying.

That won't help you...

In post 163, The Bulge wrote:I don't like this. He went straight from "that was obviously an RVS vote" to being all defensive about it.

Nope. In I state that my vote was random. In I tell you why I voted randomly instead of voting for myself. I cannot see the "being all defensive about it" part.

In post 163, The Bulge wrote:40 and 42 is a stupid pointless line of questioning.

Lol. Could you tell me why were those questions pointless? Vettrock was scummy, even he admitted that he wanted to be safe and then he contradicted himself.

In post 163, The Bulge wrote:131 132 133 all fluff

Fluff? Where?

In post 163, The Bulge wrote:134 riding on TTH's question to look useful. Like idek? What was the point of re-quoting it? It's like you wanted it to be your question.

I was curious. I wanted to hear a response from you before I propose your removal.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:09 pm

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TTH, playing Mafia doesn't give you carte Blanche to yell at people.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:51 pm

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In post 176, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 173, Oman wrote:vettrock > dookie/bulge > flaaaaaames

Damn straight that ain't winning you any paragon awards.

Justify this list. Starting with vettrock.


I really think you want to look at this post and the one above it and consider if that's really how you want to treat other players- other people. I mean, is this really the kind of post that you think represents A) the kind of player that you want to be, and B) the kind of player that you want to play with. This isn't face-to-face after a million beers, this is forum mafia, you have time to chill your heels.

This is day one, you need to calm down, mate, it's only going to get rougher from here.


Anyway, even though I'd rather just tell you that tantrums don't get you what you want, I guess it is time to make a decision and to go through why I don't pick the rest.

Vettrock led my list for a couple of reasons:

1. I actually agree with Dooku (regardless of not finding him massively town) that Vettrock's early posts seemed to be nothing but telling us just how town he really is. He already responded to this for those that missed it at this point but it's not enough of a response for me to be happy with the actions.

2. No game content that isn't "damn we gotta vote out that Dooku dude", which isn't a protown move. There is actually one small piece of throwaway content just after elections
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. I hate this for so many reasons. Firstly the "this is painting a target on me" martyrdom. Fuck that, man. This is mafia, it ain't about you, it's about the TEEEEAM! Also, it's a really weird self-sacrificing comment to make. Secondly, I don't buy it. I don't think Axxle is scum and I know I'm not. I don't think scum really have to control either of these roles, and I don't think Day One it's worth the risk of tying the two together. I don't know, I don't think the logic is correct and I don't like how self-sacrificing he is about it.

Since I wrote that, his last post is actually pretty misleading. Like, mafia-type misleading. Votes aren't where a LOT of the information comes from, and it looks like we won't get much from it in this game. Information comes from interactions, from pushing wagons, of which votes are only a representation. They're easy to use in datamining and VCA because they're metrics, they're numbers.

I don't know what it is about Dooku that bothers me. That he didn't want VC/SC? He's just...playing differently I guess. I don't have a read on him, and that bothers me, because there has been a lot of comment asking for his removal, but I can't see it, so I'm concerned that I'm missing something. That's why he hits my list but never tops it.


I guess we could have set this up to be a Wisdom of the Crowds thing, we could have agreed that we treat votes like a lynch. We could have done a lot of stuff, but it looks like we're playing today as a Kingmaker position. I can hack that.



I also think we need to hear a lot more from the lynchproof dude.


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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:18 am

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prododge

i'll try to post 2 hours later

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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:48 am

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Vice Chancellor Oman has submitted a motion to the floor.

THE REMOVAL OF VETTROCK is at hand. Players, please submit "Yea" or "Nay" votes to me within (expired on 2015-06-10 09:48:25). Please also submit the name of any chambers you wish to visit, if any. I will reveal the results and close out the voting phase as soon as I have all votes. Any votes not received in (expired on 2015-06-10 09:48:25) will be considered "nay" votes.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:07 am

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The Bulge: Yea
Count Dooku: Yea
Flames682: Yea
vettrock: Nay
Green Crayons: Yea
TellTaleHeart: Nay
Mainez: Nay
Oman : Yea


The motion passes, 5-3!

vettrock has been removed from his position.



vettrock,
representative in the Galactic Senate
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, removed via motion


It is now time to retreat to your chambers. Senate will be called back into session in (expired on 2015-06-13 09:07:24).
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:07 pm

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Hey guys! Untrod Tripod will be taking over modding of this game now. Thanks a bunch!
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:41 pm

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Hey guys.

I have been tapped to mod this game. I have just gained access to mod information and we will be resuming tomorrow. Sorry about the inconvenience.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:31 pm

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Okay guys. Very sorry for the delay. I've been familiarizing myself with the ruleset etc. Also I had to do some admin-y shit to get access to the PTs etc.

We will start very soon.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:00 am

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It is now the Second Election Phase!

The VICE CHANCELLOR must be elected.

Deadline for elections is (expired on 2015-06-19 12:00:00).
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:27 am

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Welcome back everyone. I hope you enjoyed your extended recess, my room got shitfaced so I allowed for some extra time to get over my hangover.

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VOTE: TTH

I think she's in the best position to engage the rest of the town. Alternatively voting Mainez or Flamez to force them to take a stance this game might be interesting. Probably a terrible idea but interesting nonetheless.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:36 am

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just a heads up I'm going to be V/LA this weekend

I'll be able to do some votecounts, but PM me if you need a fast response to something
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:18 am

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VOTE: TTH

I'm checking with UT to see if I can post what I said in chambers last night or if I have to paraphrase.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:28 am

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In post 189, TellTaleHeart wrote:I'm checking with UT to see if I can post what I said in chambers last night or if I have to paraphrase.

You have to paraphrase
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:30 am

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I have to paraphrase. But unfortunately, I don't have time to type it out right now since I have to go do other things. In the meantime, if either of my lovely chambermates would like to take a crack at it that would be wonderful. ^_^

Also in the meantime, I would like to let Oman know that just because he's condescending and patronizing instead of coarse and vulgar, it doesn't mean he's better than I am. :3

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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:14 am

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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:15 am

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Or wait, did you want me to paraphrase the other thing?
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:17 am

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VOTE: TTH

I don't think paraphrasing is appropriate at this time, because I want to see how the day develops without that input for now.

I do think voting TTH is appropriate as this time.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:36 am

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Awww, I had a wonderful paraphrase typed up too. Invented a swear and everything.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:50 am

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V/LA & phone access only until Monday.

If this game even survives that long.

Heh.

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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:40 pm

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In post 191, TellTaleHeart wrote:Also in the meantime, I would like to let Oman know that just because he's condescending and patronizing instead of coarse and vulgar, it doesn't mean he's better than I am. :3

Well done, you managed to be all four in one sentence.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:18 pm

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UT, I'm replacing out.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:20 pm

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I was going to restate all my problems with how you treated me Day 1 (that I outlined in the chambers PT), but I think it's going to be an exercise in frustration and we're still not going to be on the same page. I don't think I'm up for the task.

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