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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:40 pm

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And he obviously isn't even reading the game, as I took up a whole page scum hunting, so...not only is he straight up LYING he is showing that he doesn't care to read the thread, and he'd rather just fabricate reasons for people being scum. (I'm an easy target for that early game, so come on...) he doesn't even try to be smart about it.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:44 pm

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It's been confirmed that Blue is Monkey, correct? Exactly. I've been scum with Monkey once, and it was the first game I played with him. I won as scum. Ever since then, any game we've been in together, he's ignorantly and relentlessly tunneled to no avail. Had been town everytime. This shows that he is just super paranoid, so this is actually a point towards a town alignment, but it's all WIFOMy from both sides with this case.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:47 pm

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I'm not making anything up, I have an actual case. You are being scummy on multiple facets(OMGUSing, being defensive, not scumhunting). Now you can add insulting other players that are actually trying to get things done.

Boon needs to be lynched for no other reason that any time a case is made against him, he is going to cry that people don't like his playstyle, and only vote for people that are pushing his lynch. The town will never win with him in the game.

If he is town, he is stalling finding actual scum. If he is scum, he's doing an excellent job taking advantage of town that are too lazy to look at the actual arguments.

And again, there is no better argument against any other players.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:53 pm

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I mean, if people would really rather waste an investigation to try and prove Boon is scum, I'm open to that strategy, but I think it is a waste of an investigation on someone that isn't being scummy.

I would like to hear Boon's opinion's on people that haven't voted for him yet.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:12 pm

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OMGUSing on page 1 is one thing.

Tunneling this hard because of it is quite another.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:15 pm

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I'm not tunneling because of page 1, I'm tunneling because of his subsequent reactions.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:52 pm

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In post 128, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 126, Zoronos wrote:Would you care to vote one of those scummy posters?


One of them, or someone else.

I want to slow things down just a tiny bit. Deadline's a long way off, so we have time to make more measured judgements. I want to make sure we lynch Scum, not low-hanging fruit.

But nobody's really that close to Lynch, so why not use your vote to put your money where your mouth is?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:53 pm

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In post 129, Boonskiies wrote:I like both OhGod or Bluemoon for scum

What about kling?
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:55 pm

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In post 133, Ricastle wrote:Okay, really not liking that exchange.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

Unnecessary hesitation followed by immediate concession with a forced, cautious explanation for the vote. That ticks enough boxes for me.

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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:56 pm

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In post 140, Boonskiies wrote:Also, klingon's town.

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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:59 pm

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In post 141, Klingoncelt wrote:How often are Scum caught on Day1?

Sorry I'm laughing on the inside about this, especially about who its directed at. Eventually I'll be able to tell you why.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:07 pm

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But in all seriousness, from what I've seen looking around the site, scum get caught day 1 sometimes, not as rare as you imply it is
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:55 pm

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In post 156, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 128, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 126, Zoronos wrote:Would you care to vote one of those scummy posters?


One of them, or someone else.

I want to slow things down just a tiny bit. Deadline's a long way off, so we have time to make more measured judgements. I want to make sure we lynch Scum, not low-hanging fruit.

But nobody's really that close to Lynch, so why not use your vote to put your money where your mouth is?


I don't like to vote unless I'm sure that person is Scum.

I'm on late in the day, intermittently. I can't tell you how many times I've logged on to find the thread was locked before noon and someone was lynched and flipped Town. A lot of times it was me and I never got to claim. Other times it was someone I voted for, but after having slept on it I wanted to change my vote. Too late.

Plus, the best way to pressure someone is to ask questions. You get more specific information that way instead of "Don't lynch me I'm not Scum!"
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:58 pm

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In post 161, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:But in all seriousness, from what I've seen looking around the site, scum get caught day 1 sometimes, not as rare as you imply it is


In my experience Scum get lynched D1 less than 10%. It should be at least 25%. So ... rare.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:01 pm

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In post 162, Klingoncelt wrote:I don't like to vote unless I'm sure that person is Scum.

Idk if that's necessarily true. I just found a game where you voted multiple people in a short period of time and you were town. Another game you did wait a while and the 3rd I saw you were scum. I'll dig through more games later.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:07 pm

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I think Klingon is town as hell. I feel I'm getting pretty good at telling when she is scum.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:10 pm

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In post 164, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 162, Klingoncelt wrote:I don't like to vote unless I'm sure that person is Scum.

Idk if that's necessarily true. I just found a game where you voted multiple people in a short period of time and you were town. Another game you did wait a while and the 3rd I saw you were scum. I'll dig through more games later.


Well there's more than one Scum in a game.

That plus I've had some major shit go down IRL, so my usual mindset is very messed up. I'm not as accurate or confident as usual. The "not as accurate" part is why I've been so on & off with the votes.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:32 pm

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Boon's reads are directly related to who's suspecting him. How is that at all a town mindset?
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:51 pm

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Because scum is targeting me. Scum always targets me. Even if I'm partnered with them, scum targets me.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:52 pm

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In post 168, Boonskiies wrote:Because scum is targeting me. Scum always targets me. Even if I'm partnered with them, scum targets me.

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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:54 pm

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In post 166, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 164, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 162, Klingoncelt wrote:I don't like to vote unless I'm sure that person is Scum.

Idk if that's necessarily true. I just found a game where you voted multiple people in a short period of time and you were town. Another game you did wait a while and the 3rd I saw you were scum. I'll dig through more games later.


Well there's more than one Scum in a game.

That plus I've had some major shit go down IRL, so my usual mindset is very messed up. I'm not as accurate or confident as usual. The "not as accurate" part is why I've been so on & off with the votes.

Sounds like you are just making excuses. If what you said was true, why did you abandon it and vote when questiones about it? Looks like you are just trying to avoid detection and when somebody calls you out, you try to appease them
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:21 pm

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That's not really alignment indicating Woody. I did pressure her to vote. The reasonable thing to do, when there's no cost to doing it there, is to vote, regardless of alignment.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:22 pm

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It is to me
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:22 pm

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In post 167, BlueMoonRising wrote:Boon's reads are directly related to who's suspecting him. How is that at all a town mindset?


Talk to me about non-Boon players. Who else strikes you as scummy and why?
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:55 pm

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In post 173, Zoronos wrote:
In post 167, BlueMoonRising wrote:Boon's reads are directly related to who's suspecting him. How is that at all a town mindset?


Talk to me about non-Boon players. Who else strikes you as scummy and why?


Ricastle, for reasons I stated before, and I like Woody's case on Klingon.

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