MINI 1688 — BEES!!! — game over

[lalaladucks]

KayP I am not appealing to emotion

it's kinda hard when you bumble bees don't seem to have any emotions to appeal to anyways hahahah

oh AND scum always likes to label me as appealing to emotion so in my book of feathers you get another scum brownie point there you go so delicious and crumbly scumbly

pedit: MS what a useless post smh

[SleepyKrew]

Buckle your seatbelts kids

[KayP]

KayP, if you could just tell us who you partners are, that'd be great.

Nice response to anything that I've said so far!

You can die now, scum.

[Marquis]

Votecount...

Spoiler: ...remains unchanged from previous.

(expired on 2015-07-07 00:00:00)

(Tue Jul 7 @ 12:00:00 AM EST)

VOTECOUNT 4.01

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  Awaiting prod response from: N/A

[Fro99er]

Sleepy, I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Ducky, why did you joke about being backup IC going into twilight?

[Fro99er]

I can't see Chaos lying given ducky's actions, and I've townread BobLob slot the whole game, so I'm inclined to belive it.

KayP, Ducky, and {metal or GC} is still where I'm at, still leaning a good bit toward Metal

[Metal Sonic]

Sleepy, I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Ducky, why did you joke about being backup IC going into twilight?

I would like to hear the answer to this as well.

People do not "joke" about putting a bomb on an airplane.

We're going to take it as if you did put a bomb on the airplane.

[Fro99er]

^^That is a pretty sad bussing attempt, Metal. Just tagging along with my question to look like you're questioning Ducky.

[Metal Sonic]

are you seriously calling me scum? lol.

you had better justify

[Metal Sonic]

honestly the way I look at it,

assuming that GC gives scum daytalk.

the most suspicious thing ever is duck's backup IC claim then retract

[Metal Sonic]

yeah.

thinking about it a bit more

SKREW are you trolling with your backup IC claim?

plsplspls

HOW

that is ridiculous

nonsensical

outRAGEous

uh uh uh uh uh

lalaladucks if you're a backup IC too you should claim

I am a backup IC that's why SKREW's claim is so weird!!!11!11!11!!!

like

omg

this can't be real

is it a dream?

a dream within a dream?

a dream within a dream within a dream?

a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream?

a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream?

[Fro99er]

honestly the way I look at it,

assuming that GC gives scum daytalk.

the most suspicious thing ever is duck's backup IC claim then retract

Soooo...in this scenario, if GC gives scum daytalk (meaning you believe his claim), and you're doctor, then you're saying Chaos is lying in his claim? Because two rolecops, a doctor, two backup ICs, and an encryptor-enabler is awfully town-sided.

[Metal Sonic]

^
before night ended

V after night ended

hit submit instead of preview...

lala also claimed 'backup IC'

Ducky, can you clarify the twilight deal. Are you VT or Backup IC?

Ducks claimed Backup IC, too... so it's not just about SleepyKrew lying at this point or whether he's telling the truth, it's about whether there are THREE backup ICs in this game?

That seems like a stretch. After reading, I could sort of buy the argument that two backup ICs and no actual IC would be a funny setup for the mod to use, but three of them in a normal seems very excessive...

I don't know which of ducks or SleepyKrew would be more likely to be lying, though.

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@NM:

In light of:

VOTECOUNT 2.19

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KayP

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SleepyKrew

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EspeciallyTheLies, Fro99er

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RedCoyote

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Not_Mafia

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Not_Mafia

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KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic, Green Crayons

(L-1)

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(NO LYNCH)

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(NOT VOTING)

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SleepyKrew, lalaladucks, BBmolla

VOTECOUNT 2.20

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KayP

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SleepyKrew

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lalaladucks

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Not_Mafia

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RedCoyote

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EspeciallyTheLies, lalaladucks, BBmolla, Green Crayons, Fro99er

(L-1)

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Not_Mafia

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KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic

(L-2)

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EspeciallyTheLies

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(0)

(NO LYNCH)

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SleepyKrew

With

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to lynch.

VOTECOUNT 2.21

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KayP

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KayP, ChaosOmega, RedCoyote, Metal Sonic

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EspeciallyTheLies

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(NO LYNCH)

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(NOT VOTING)

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SleepyKrew

With

11

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, it takes

6

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to lynch.

I'm all ears about your theory why you were not lynched yesterday.

Because to me it looks like scum didn't want to lynch you yesterday.

There wasn't really any clean opportunity for scum to hammer me yesterday, maybe they weren't around, maybe they saw me as more easily mislynchable in future days than RC

well if I was scum I had a good opportunity, was there when you were at L-1, but it mostly seemed like a lurker lynch for Bulge's useless nothingness rather than actual scumminess[/quote]

so it looks like scum had a nice long chat at night between ducky's claim and ducky's retract.

[KayP]

Here's a little novela I wrote, entitled: A Week With ChaosOmega

Sup. At work for a while, will try to read and catch up within a few hours.

Promise to catch up within a few hours. Note: his next post was about 15 hours later, and roughly ten pages of content happened in that time, including the NM momentum picking up and the SK tension beginning to bubble.

So I was reading through this before, and then I got confused, and then I started drinking, and now I'm just fucking staring at the screen.

I looked at Sks iso, it's shitty, but I don't think it's scum-shitty. I would normally give GC shit for wanting a nl here, but I'm pretty understanding of it in this case. If the numbers worked out better (even players), I'd be more for it.

I understand the SK lynch in that he hasn't contributed much and has suspicion now, so he won't be a nk, but we get dick for information from it. It's gut, but looking through his posts, I don't get a feel of scum avoiding info, it reads as town confusion.

That said, I don't really have another suspect to push forward. N_M isn't blowing up my skirt (you wanna talk shitty iso's ETL, look at The Bulge's). N_M, your role is citizen and not vanilla townie? is having 2 flavors of vanilla allowed in normals? But N_M's posting is decent I think. 1073 is weird. You read up to 17, say the SK slot is devoid of content, but he hasn't posted yet. I guess you're basing it off Kitty Galore, who wasn't a prolific poster at all, but it reads like you're just a hobo jumping on the SK train.

VOTE: Not_mafia

I think I'd rather lynch here. I won't mourn Sk's lynch if it comes to that, and I'll switch to it to prevent a nl, but I think N_M has a better chance of flipping scum. This is mainly gut, and I imagine some people won't be a fan, but it's whatev.

I've already commented on this, but here's a bulleted list of my issues with this "catch up post":

• It's not a catch-up post.
  
• It ignores about 85% of the game and instead focuses on the false dichotomy between SleepyKrew and NotMafia.
  
• He contradicts his own vote by saying he doesn't think NM is that scummy and actually says his posting his decent.
  
• He fence-sits on GC (calls out his wanting a no lynch... just to say "nah" and let it go!)

This is ChaosOmega's "big" entrance into the game.

Pretty sure the IC claim was just a troll, I won't be surprised whatever SK's flip, but I don't see any better option springing up and it's certainly better than a no lynch

I mean, you're the other option.

I am trying to understand your logic of "lynch null" vs "lynch obvious bullshit".

Because the obvious bullshit reads as town?

ETL, why would SK claim something so outrageous as scum?

UNVOTE: SleepyKrew; VOTE: Not_Mafia

SK's claim is effectively provable at some point. SK does not need to be lynched today.

Is it effectively provable without lynching him at some point?

This is more posturing... here, ChaosOmega sits on the sidelines and keeps stirring the "NotMafia or SleepyKrew" fires. He even goes as far now to say that

SleepyKrew will have to be lynched at some point

, yet he's still voting NotMafia, the player he thinks has decent posting and isn't that scummy. This makes NO SENSE from a town perspective. Townies would not vote for someone they don't think is scum when they have a player they're claiming

has

to be lynched at some point anyway.

If there are 2 back up ICs then there isn't a regular IC

Sherlock Holmes on the case.

Now he's just taking potshots at NotMafia... why? To discredit him? To throw shade his way? I posit that ChaosOmega is trying to speak negatively towards NM because he's trying to justify his vote on NM after the fact. He saw the wagon and voted him despite thinking he is town, so this is just a way for him to align his behavior in thread towards NM with his vote on him.

Real talk, I'm going to be leaving for a housewarming party soon, and I will be gone until after deadline. I'll have my phone, and I'll check in before deadline to help ensure a lynch.

Not worth discussing (AFK announcement).

I'm here. Rc lynch is ok I guess.

Chimes in supporting the RC lynch. Does NOT vote RC. Gives no reasons for liking the lynch or even reads/opinions on ANYTHING else in the game. He doesn't even commit to the RC lynch -- says it is "ok I guess". This is incredibly wishy washy. And what happened to SleepyKrew needing to be lynched to prove his claim at some point?

I am an even-night role cop (hello scum night kill!)

N2, lalalalalalaladucks returned vanilla.

Claim.

lala could still be scum, a mafia goon would give me a result of vanilla.

Claim clarification.

KayP, if you could just tell us who you partners are, that'd be great.

Now suddenly, I'm scum, and CO continues to ignore the entirety of the game and only focus on what has momentum. It's opportunistic. What happened to his "catch up" on the game? He has not even mentioned the name of Frogger or Metal Sonic. He has only mentioned me once, when suddenly he thinks I'm mafia.

He doesn't truly believe his own posts because he's just making stuff up to go along with whatever gets him through the day and gets a townie lynched. He didn't even follow his own logic and stated reasons for NotMafia. He half-assed his support of the RC wagon. And now he's piling onto the "KayP is scum" bandwagon that some people have been floating around, and he has no basis, reasoning, or history of wanting it. His actions show a clear scum motivation and aren't backed by any sort of town thought process.

[Metal Sonic]

honestly the way I look at it,

assuming that GC gives scum daytalk.

the most suspicious thing ever is duck's backup IC claim then retract

Soooo...in this scenario, if GC gives scum daytalk (meaning you believe his claim), and you're doctor, then you're saying Chaos is lying in his claim? Because two rolecops, a doctor, two backup ICs, and an encryptor-enabler is awfully town-sided.

eh. GC doesn't "give scum daytalk". rather, he "removes scum daytalk if he is killed".

he has not been killed.

ETL was going at him before she died.

there is room for doubt

[lalaladucks]

Ducky, why did you joke about being backup IC going into twilight?

uh well

I did not think there was another role cop

I also did not think everyone would actually believe the claim

when I was at L-1 on Day 1 I had already claimed VT

and jokes are fun

NM had just said

WE'RE ALL BACKUP ICs!

so I rolled with it

no ragrets

[KayP]

so it looks like scum had a nice long chat at night between ducky's claim and ducky's retract.

But if you believe GC's claim, then mafia have day talk, so them talking at night really doesn't matter?

[Metal Sonic]

I'm more suspicious of CO's claim, honestly.

"Even-Night Cop" fits too symmetrically with Odd Night Cop. And 2 investigatives? blah.

i'm not lynching between the PRs today anyhow. doing so would be fucking stupid.

[KayP]

OH MY GOD! GUYS!

[Fro99er]

Ducky, why did you joke about being backup IC going into twilight?

uh well

I did not think there was another role cop

I also did not think everyone would actually believe the claim

when I was at L-1 on Day 1 I had already claimed VT

and jokes are fun

NM had just said

WE'RE ALL BACKUP ICs!

so I rolled with it

no ragrets

Lies. You started your joke in 1413, BEFORE NM said that in 1418.

[Metal Sonic]

so it looks like scum had a nice long chat at night between ducky's claim and ducky's retract.

But if you believe GC's claim, then mafia have day talk, so them talking at night really doesn't matter?

it matters because it appeared that ducky's counterclaim was a spontaneous/impulsive reaction. her hypothetical teammates probably didn't have time to react to that. especially between the time marquis locked the thread.


also, she took a while to retract her claim. sounds like *probably* needed more convincing... by daytalk

[KayP]

CO claimed to have investigated ducky right?

Ducky claimed the Backup IC on Day 2.

CO claims to investigate ducky N2 and get "vanilla".

Day 3, CO knows that Ducky is lying about the claim, and DOESN'T TELL US?

He doesn't post ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

[KayP]

I'm going to post this in big bold letters because I think it just solves the game:

CHAOSOMEGA HAD A RESULT THAT SAID DUCKY WAS LYING AND DIDN'T CLAIM ANYTHING

[Metal Sonic]

Ducky, why did you joke about being backup IC going into twilight?

uh well

I did not think there was another role cop

I also did not think everyone would actually believe the claim

when I was at L-1 on Day 1 I had already claimed VT

and jokes are fun

NM had just said

WE'RE ALL BACKUP ICs!

so I rolled with it

no ragrets

Lies. You started your joke in 1413, BEFORE NM said that in 1418.

this is good


i'm ready to vote ducky now.

[lalaladucks]

Ducky, why did you joke about being backup IC going into twilight?

uh well

I did not think there was another role cop

I also did not think everyone would actually believe the claim

when I was at L-1 on Day 1 I had already claimed VT

and jokes are fun

NM had just said

WE'RE ALL BACKUP ICs!

so I rolled with it

no ragrets

Lies. You started your joke in 1413, BEFORE NM said that in 1418.

lol no

I wasn't jk when asking SKREW about the IC claim it really didn't make any sense to me