Star Trek Deep Space Nine Season 1 Mafia(game over!)

Suzune · Post Post #2900 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:13 am

Well at least you acknowledge reading it. However, i would appreciate if we talked about more things then CDB since, even if he is mafia, he cannot be mafia alone.

Thor665 · Post Post #2901 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:20 am

Agreed - but I'm not sure how that maters today, because until we get a mafia flip any and all interactions are theoreticals. We need the first flip to do any scumhunting past witchhunting.

RIP · Post Post #2902 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:21 am

I will have to vote cDb to self press and I think he's town. Keep in mind it's important we get a track tonight
Don't know vote. We need to tell monkey

I already told u is gumball.

3 times there was a scum too busy to lie to us.
Therefore subbing in and out a few diff times and finally when gumball comes back he fucks up "by trying to post content"
Why would town need to feel the need of replacing back in and rush their read.

Not just a read but their most trusting town just died.
How tragic. I read a lot of the game but I don't have reads on anyone yet.
Just the unexplained dead town who I trust the most.
And he's not even sad.
Then he took time to read a dead senator because it reminded him of the liquety guy.

But HE DIDNT have time to catch up.

Which it is?
Why not ISO or read the scummy?

When pressed by Riabi he goes back and sees that dreaming sala has trolled for ten post and that's it and he ISO her for real and realize how dumb he's defense of her was.

RIP · Post Post #2903 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:21 am

Deadline?
VC
Mod wtf

Thor665 · Post Post #2904 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:54 am

Mod did a vote count yesterday, just about 24 hours ago - and it's not like the votes have exploded with furor since then nor has the deadline changed.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7022338

RIP wtf

Narninian · Post Post #2905 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:03 am

RIP is not being super helpful; I am still confused about his "I lied" statement and he hasn't done anything to clarify, but I still think a CDB vote is the better path based partially on vanilla vs tracker claims, but also on The hider crumb and RIP case's being he is playing poorly, which could be true of town.

Narninian · Post Post #2906 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:03 am

I also don't like the speed (not in real time necessarily but on posts) at which that wagon flipped.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #2907 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:47 am

I am off work in 4 hrs. Can do vote count then.

Thor665 · Post Post #2908 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:09 am

In post 2905, Narninian wrote:RIP is not being super helpful; I am still confused about his "I lied" statement

To clarify it - it has to do with his claim, which vacillated from being able to track night 3 to night 4 and other general obfuscation BS he is spewing which is then attached by others to a scum meta of his wherein he, as scum, fakeclaims and spews BS.

He is assuredly spewing BS - that is without doubt at this stage.
The question then becomes "do you think that is something he does as scum (assuredly yes) but not as town (I have heard no one discuss this even though it is at the crux of painitng him as a quality lynch)

If he ends up dead soon, I will be quite happy. But, frankly, the case against that lurker/replace slot pings to me with town paranoia and some semblence of sense - assuredly enough to want to leave him alive for a day to see what happens over and above CDB's obvious game lurk as opposed to site lurk leaves me quite dead as to the idea of making it the wagon today on the case as presented.

I have no idea why anyone is confused about the "lie" at this stage though - you and the eyeglass avatar girl are both expressing that. Why are you confused? And if you are confused - why not do a bit of research; it has been discussed.

In post 2906, Narninian wrote:I also don't like the speed (not in real time necessarily but on posts) at which that wagon flipped.

Eh - I am very neutral on that and don't see the blatant scum energy considering the playstyle of this game and the amount of time most people seem to be spending on setting their reads.
Who do you think are the scum pushing that shift?

RIP · Post Post #2909 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:11 am

I didn't lie about my claim.

Te lie was to over blow te claim by saying if I'm alive tomorrow game is over cuz I would have solved the game.

This was to put pressure to scum to kill me and at the same time make them believe I might be BS.
Therefore they will spend energy trying to figure this out and I might survive cuz wifom and fancy play and gambit.

I wasn't counting with them voting me and making me a wagon when it was clear I was not to be touch and my wagon had died.

It backfired but there was no scum motivation. Why would I say game is over if I'm alive if I'm scum??????
Wouldn't I wanna keep under wraps?
Thinking I'm scum is not towny, cuz they are not thinking straight.

RIP · Post Post #2910 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:13 am

I saw he's VC then.
But I'm at -1 and want to make sure. Also will prevent any scum of voting cuz they didn't read or know I was -1.
I don't wanna die that's all.

RIP · Post Post #2911 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:15 am

Also the fact I pushed or thought almost everyone is scum at some point cannot be scum tell.
Why would I make enemies as scum?

I been pushing a lot of people cuz I find things that bother me or ping me as scummy.

RIP · Post Post #2912 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:18 am

Most people are playing poorly.
Most people are lurkers.
Many people replace.
Many people are dropping votes in me but no work or who else is scum.

LittleGumball · Post Post #2913 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:37 am

In post 2909, RIP wrote:I didn't lie about my claim.

Te lie was to over blow te claim by saying if I'm alive tomorrow game is over cuz I would have solved the game.

This was to put pressure to scum to kill me and at the same time make them believe I might be BS.
Therefore they will spend energy trying to figure this out and I might survive cuz wifom and fancy play and gambit.

I wasn't counting with them voting me and making me a wagon when it was clear I was not to be touch and my wagon had died.

It backfired but there was no scum motivation. Why would I say game is over if I'm alive if I'm scum??????
Wouldn't I wanna keep under wraps?
Thinking I'm scum is not towny, cuz they are not thinking straight.

Thank you for FINALLY coming up with an explanation for your statement. Originally my vote was to pressure you into an explanation for said lie but at this point I really do want to lynch you.
sozzles friend

Thor665 · Post Post #2914 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:45 am

In post 2913, LittleGumball wrote:Thank you for FINALLY coming up with an explanation for your statement. Originally my vote was to pressure you into an explanation for said lie but at this point I really do want to lynch you.
sozzles friend

So you're saying you like his explanation but want to lynch him anyway?
What are you doing?

LittleGumball · Post Post #2915 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:51 am

In post 2914, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2913, LittleGumball wrote:Thank you for FINALLY coming up with an explanation for your statement. Originally my vote was to pressure you into an explanation for said lie but at this point I really do want to lynch you.
sozzles friend

So you're saying you like his explanation but want to lynch him anyway?
What are you doing?

I never said I liked it. I still think it's an awful move.

davesaz · Post Post #2916 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:56 am

The problem I have is believing there could be town who would think acting like that to attract scum to their lynch wouldn't also result in town wanting to lynch them.
I find it easier to believe that scum could act like that, say they were trying to trick scum, and expecting to get away with it.

Another thing I'm having trouble remembering is what prompted the tracker claim in the first place.

PeregrineV · Post Post #2917 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:51 am

Happy Fourth everybody!

Sorry for my long delay, I'm back now.

Thor665 · Post Post #2918 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:51 am

In post 2915, LittleGumball wrote:
In post 2914, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2913, LittleGumball wrote:Thank you for FINALLY coming up with an explanation for your statement. Originally my vote was to pressure you into an explanation for said lie but at this point I really do want to lynch you.
sozzles friend

So you're saying you like his explanation but want to lynch him anyway?
What are you doing?

I never said I liked it. I still think it's an awful move.

What made it worth pushing him as scum where, prior to that, you were simply pressuring him?

PeregrineV · Post Post #2919 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:58 am

In post 2675, Titus wrote:
AA needs to be replaced. Extend the deadline please.

I still need an answer from PV.

Titus, not sure I saw the question....

LittleGumball · Post Post #2920 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:10 am

In post 2918, Thor665 wrote:What made it worth pushing him as scum where, prior to that, you were simply pressuring him?

I've thought RIP was scummy for a while now:

Spoiler: a couple examples

For me, this whole situation is even more incentive to lynch him.

PeregrineV · Post Post #2921 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:11 am

In post 2711, Suzune wrote:Thinking about this hider thing, is it not possible that the hider just hid behind the millar. The town was not sure whether or not to lynch the millar on day one, perhaps the hider figured that there was no way the millar would get night killed since the high chance the town would just lynch them. The millar is a town role, while a negative town role, still a safe spot to hide. That is something else to consider. I cannot seem to find a reference the idea that the hider hid behind CDB.

Read the hider's final post. There are also many posts that link to it.

In post 2711, Suzune wrote:Today is day four that means if RIP is telling the truth then we should be able to see whether or not he is the tracker. If there is someone that we reasonably believe is town we can check to see if they are telling the truth based on the results they get. It would still be a gamble, but it would give us the chance to see what is happening and perchance clear up this bizarre claim. Having information is something the town does not seem to have right now, losing our potential information role is a dangerous play in my opinion.

I guess he's not afraid of being roleblocked or anything.... he's probably a strongman tracker.

PeregrineV · Post Post #2922 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:17 am

In post 2737, davesaz wrote:
In post 2733, Titus wrote:Ok, we went about 12 hours with no one posting there. What the ever loving fuck?

I've been installing a new countertop, faucet, and sink in the laundry room. Interspersed with dinner, dropping off kids to activities, and picking up various plumbing parts which we couldn't get earlier.

As for game state, I'm having a hard time because too few people are really active. It's harder to catch someone in an inconsistency if they haven't said anything of substance.

Lack of substance usually tells you something. Who is lacking substance, IYO?

PeregrineV · Post Post #2923 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:26 am

In post 2786, Thor665 wrote:Though, honestly, what the hell is Pere doing also.

@Pere - weren't you for this lynch?

I kinda want to lynch Pere just for being a lurksack now - I don't think I've ever seen him do that before.

Meh, see #3. Trying to do more work at work.

I am for the lynch.

I'm also greedy and want the full scum Monty.

Or as close as possible to it by the time day ends.

PeregrineV · Post Post #2924 (ISO) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:27 am

In post 2794, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 2786, Thor665 wrote:Though, honestly, what the hell is Pere doing also.

@Pere - weren't you for this lynch?

I kinda want to lynch Pere just for being a lurksack now - I don't think I've ever seen him do that before.

PereV seems to have siteflaked 4 days ago. I hope he's okay....

Yes, thanks...