Mini Normal 1692 – A Crack In Time? – Game Over


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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:14 am

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In post 624, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:I'd appreciate it if you would actually play the game or replace out. That goes for any other lurker also.


Lurking is a legitimate scum tactic, no need to appreciate people replacing out for it. Scum do it because they can hide. Town do it because they can hide in future scumgames by referencing the meta. Both do it when they are low on time and enthusiasm.

I think Boon and I agree that we should string up lurkers starting day2, prioritize it even. That should be incentive enough to get them talking.

In post 624, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:So a Lynch on elusive slot or a Lynch on ricastle are the only acceptable lynches. If not those 2, my earlier case on kling still holds true and he's done nothing to improve his slot.


Kling seems kind of different than in the game I've played with her where I hammered her day1 to avoid getting myself lynched, both of us being town. Hi Klingon!
She hasn't contributed much to the game..

About Ricastle, I don't like his #179 where he sais:
In post 179, Ricastle wrote:Also, Boon
apparently
has meta with town-him indicating the same.

To say 'apparently' when he's been vehemently townreading Boon from the start is a word choice that suggests a glitch in his simulation.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:18 am

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In post 617, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 608, PointYBagelS wrote:

Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 575, Zoronos wrote: struck me as a really scummy post, and I have no idea why.


In post 556, PointYBagelS wrote:To be honest I'm actually starting to think Woody might be scum. Tunnel vision is one thing but it almost looks like he's being willfully ignorant. If he's scum he has dug himself a hole that it'd be difficult to get out of, and might be afraid to flip flop and appear scummy. I feel like town at this point would have realized Naked Jogger isn't going to be lynched today and moved on to other scum, yet he continues to tunnel and stifle discussion.

I like my vote where it is for the moment, but Woody is starting to worry me.


It's creepy. It looks like he's busing his Scumbuddies.

VOTE: PointYBagelS[/vote


UNVOTE: [/unvote
v]Klingoncelt[/v]

Mind saying what specifically you don't like about it?



My, what a lovely OMGUS you have there, Scum.


Anyway, your read on Woody is almost soft. Very gently, very "Woody, you're fucking up, darn, I'm going to have to bus you."

Then you defend why you aren't voting him.

"He looks so much like Scum but I'm keeping my vote on someone else, but he worries me..."

But you have zero problem OMGUS-voting me, without a b-movie speech on my worrisome behavior.

Yep, you be Scum.


Can you rephrase this please. Why would scum do it rather than town and what are the relevant variables?
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:34 am

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In post 624, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:he ignored my evidence cause I somehow "thrusted" it on him
That wasn't an excuse you fucking clown, it was a descriptor. Is that honestly all you took away from that post?

In post 624, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:Do you get that?

1. Didn't provide any
2. The evidence wasn't good enough
3. Didnt read it, he ignored it...

How can all 3 statements be the truth
Where did I say I didn't read it? I ignored it as actual evidence, yes,
because
it was shit and I had already explained why. You only started mentioning the "evidence" after I had already refuted it; how the fuck am I supposed to assume that it's a point I've already refuted? This is not hard to understand, and if you want to retain any sort of credibility you may have as a mafia player you're going to have to put this down to confbias.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:36 am

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Spoiler: relevant theory
In post 625, FakedBlogger wrote:I think Boon and I agree that we should string up lurkers starting day2, prioritize it even. That should be incentive enough to get them talking.


Even better would be for us to decide rather definitely on a lurker lynch on day 3. It's the ideal town play, imo.

This is subjective contemplation and use it against me at your own peril but I think day2 is the time for an information lynch, and day1 for an unexpected lynch.


About people I haven't mentioned yet. It's because they fly under my radar. They're asking questions, calling people scummy, show presence but nothing really comes of it and they don't follow up with a town-specific nonchalance, curiosity, rage or compulsion. I ma unsure or the relevance of this observation.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:37 am

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VOTE: Ricastle
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:49 am

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In post 627, Ricastle wrote:That wasn't an excuse you fucking clown

please do not curse at me. If you can't keep your emotions in check then please follow your scum buddy and replace out.

In post 627, Ricastle wrote:Where did I say I didn't read it?

sorry my bad, imo ignoring implies you didn't read it...
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:50 am

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In post 0, Aneninen wrote:(7) Do not be a douchebag, please! Attack the posts, not the player itself.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:00 am

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In post 630, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 627, Ricastle wrote:That wasn't an excuse you fucking clown

please do not curse at me. If you can't keep your emotions in check then please follow your scum buddy and replace out.

In post 627, Ricastle wrote:Where did I say I didn't read it?

sorry my bad, imo ignoring implies you didn't read it...


That anger seems out of character. Maybe he's just frustrated (you are scumreading obvtown after all) but maybe there's more to it. I'll have to look over his other posts.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:12 am

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Unvote, Vote: Ricastle


Thanks for the effort Woody! I think its a compelling case, but volatile emotional players can play very irrationally whether town or scum. I'd say these:
In post 624, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:She was called out for active lurking and then started to post. She was asked for a read on me by Diego but refused to answer until Diego answered her rvs questions. I voted her for it and then I immediately become her top scum read.
are the strongest points against. Has NakedJogger moved the needle on your opinion of the slot at all?

As for replacing out, if I'm not fully involved come day two I absolutely will. It wouldn't do the game or my potential replacement any favors to do it with impending deadline, and while I am still actually trying to follow the game and participate. I hate to say it but I'm crossing my fingers and hoping some of the more prolific and reactionary posters don't make it through the night.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:16 am

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EBWOP: To clarify above, I think its a compelling case
on elusive
. Obviously I'm on board with the Ricastle read.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:16 am

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Dang I suck at posting
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:20 am

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These flame wars are killing the game for me. I struggle finding coherent thought processes because entire pages are filled with garbage. Scum have to love this. I'm not saying all parties involved are scummy, but there's definitely one stirring it the most. Go back and look at the flame wars...Ricastle is involved in almost every single one. He's either white knighting or arguing over who's "winning the argument."

VOTE: ricastle
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:27 am

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In post 636, Diego1487 wrote:These flame wars are killing the game for me. I struggle finding coherent thought processes because entire pages are filled with garbage. Scum have to love this. I'm not saying all parties involved are scummy, but there's definitely one stirring it the most. Go back and look at the flame wars...Ricastle is involved in almost every single one. He's either white knighting or arguing over who's "winning the argument."

VOTE: ricastle

You must be reading my mind right now. Are you a wizard???
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:29 am

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In post 632, PointYBagelS wrote:That anger seems out of character. Maybe he's just frustrated (you are scumreading obvtown after all) but maybe there's more to it. I'll have to look over his other posts.

just because he says a player is obv town, doesn't make it the truth. If he gets upset when people don't believe him than I suggest he try a new game like Parcheesi or something.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:29 am

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Me vs Klingon wasn't a flame war and the entirety of it was perfectly relevant...come on. Woody has spammed this game to death regardless of my involvement.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:31 am

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sure I posted a lot but idk if spamming is what you can call it. Most of my posts are me arguing my points and explaining why other points are wrong from my pov.

Isn't that how the game of mafia is played? Make arguments and try to convince people and then also debate the people who say you are wrong? I'll have to check my instruction manual but I believe that is how you play mafia.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:33 am

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Yes, thank you for explaining why the wagon on me is so bizarre.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:45 am

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it's not bizarre actually, it took a while but people are seeing what i saw previously.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:50 am

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I don't really wanna lynch Woody right now.
permanently retired

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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:04 am

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Ricastle, other than Klingon, all of your arguments have been against a lynch. You've argued against every major wagon formed so far. At this point in the game, I could argue almost everyone has looked scummy at some point. You seem to be working with more information than I have.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:04 am

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@Diego link Ricastle's garbage posts that you thinl scum are loving.

+Note to self: I need to pish Moon's lynch on day3 if he doesn't get lynfhed or otherwise snuffed by then.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:05 am

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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:18 am

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Posts 507-547. This argument has been had, multiple times. Nothing either player is going to say is going to change the mind of the other. Its just page filler.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:18 am

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I'm not giving Woody a pass. My thing with him is that he has tunneled your slot past the point that scum would let it go. Honestly, at this point, if Woody moved his vote, I'd be more likely to vote him.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:20 am

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For me...Woody's either town or he's driving the mack daddy of buses right now.

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