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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:40 am

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Agree. Once every 4 town games or so would be optimal. And he should do it as scum too sometimes.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:10 am

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They definitely should go after Bella first and foremost. That way they only have one kill on their hands.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:11 am

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Honestly Bella's best best would also be to try to kill scum tonight instead of a conftown. Because otherwise UV is gonna win this thing
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:15 am

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she should kill thor!
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:29 am

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Well she doesn't know which is bp
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:31 am

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she probably does, though. she’s bp and BBT was a neighbouriser. It stands to reason that the opposing scum team would be bp + some other ability. so shooting thor makes sense.

(or is it just that i have spoilers and that makes it easy for me to see? i really can’t tell…)
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:35 am

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It's a very anti-town tactic. It sabotages cooperation, which is imo the most important town behavior. Town wins most often when they work together. Doing things that make people not want to cooperate with you, or that will honeypot in other town that are trying to cooperate you will make you lose.
It's just like Slayer's gambit.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:36 am

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yea but she doesn't know if it's Shin or Taylor the latte boy
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:37 am

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In post 356, Zoronos wrote:It's a very anti-town tactic. It sabotages cooperation, which is imo the most important town behavior. Town wins most often when they work together. Doing things that make people not want to cooperate with you, or that will honeypot in other town that are trying to cooperate you will make you lose.
It's just like Slayer's gambit.

I mean, tbh, self hammering is also an anti-town tactic.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:37 am

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I get why you did that because this game must be hella frustrating as town, but still
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:45 am

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In post 358, Aeronaut wrote:I mean, tbh, self hammering is also an anti-town tactic.


Oh, no doubt. It was an anti-town play. But I'm also not claiming it was a good idea. It was funny and I don't feel bad for doing it, but it wasn't good play.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:47 am

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i agree that honeypotting is bad play, zor. we had a townie that did that when i was scum and they were a free mislynch in lylo.

frogger’s kind of aggravating to play against as scum because he obvtowns himself pretty easily and he’s hard to mislynch, and as town he tends to roflclaim too early and has trouble telling the difference between someone being wrong about their reads (or just disagreeing with his reads) and someone being scum. but he has a lot of potential and he’s intelligent.

i’m still at that experience level where i sometimes do dumb things because i can’t help it, and i can kind of get reads out of how people react to that but I don’t think I’d ever want to do it on purpose.


@Aero: but Thor has claimed cop and Shin has claimed VT so … oh wait sometimes people can lie. keep forgetting that about this game. it could be that Shin is the cop and Thor is the BP and they said it the opposite way around to wifom the other team.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:27 am

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Yea I've claimed cop as a goon before
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:43 am

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working on social skills like remembering that people can say things that aren’t true and learning to detect when this is happening are one of the reasons i’m on this site.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:05 am

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In post 352, Aeronaut wrote:Honestly Bella's best best would also be to try to kill scum tonight instead of a conftown. Because otherwise UV is gonna win this thing

I suspect she may see it that way too and that's why she didn't hammer zor.

Don't know why shinobi didn't hammer him. At this point int he game I would have jumped on that in his shoes.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:43 am

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Bella decided to kill shin
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:50 am

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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:20 am

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In post 362, Aeronaut wrote:Yea I've claimed cop as a goon before

It's apparently a good strategy. Thor hasn't provided squat in good info, yet no one will touch him.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:44 am

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Shin is the BP as well.

Man, Bella isn't having much luck. I think it's very likely she gets lynched tomorrow and that makes me sad.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:54 pm

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Welcome frogger! I’m sorry about everything. You’re great. <3<
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:43 pm

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Hi frogger
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:11 am

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I just don't get the power that PR claims have over people in closed games. You claimed cop? BFD, unless you give some meaningful results. Oh well.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:28 am

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So actually, if they manage to lynch Bella, then Shinobi and Thor actually fufill their win con.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:14 am

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Should be interesting to see Thor's play here. He already supposedly investigated Lapsa. texcat is now conftown with frog's flip. So, he can:
- guess on tool or bella
- bus shinobi
- claim he's out of uses or odd/even or something and couldn't investigate

He'll probably do the last one, and people will probably buy it.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:15 am

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I bet Thor can't believe how much time his claim has bought him.
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