Mini 1698: MDCXCVIII [C'est fini!]

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #475 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:42 pm

In post 472, Boonskiies wrote:Uhm...you quoted my reasoning...?

Also, you had no reason to flat out be against a Mario lynch at the time. Exactly how I had no reason to be against a Shazam lynch until now.

Yes I did, the case was based on crap. He was being accused of telling people what to do which wasn't the and also that he wanted to focus on more than 1 person which is smart play. I've seen nothing else he's said or done that shows to me he's scum

Boonskiies · Post Post #476 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:42 pm

In post 466, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 461, Shazam wrote:This post is just to let you know that I'm not going to be responding to any of what you say here, because none of it is worth responding to. You don't understand how debate works, and I don't feel like educating you.

1. Real mature

2. I was actually debating you, I know better than anyone how to debate somebody

3. In my experience people hide tail and run like you just did are scum.

vote: shazam

I actually feel you are misusing the term of debate? It 'technically' makes sense, but not in the context I feel you were trying to make, so I don't get this post.

Boonskiies · Post Post #477 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:43 pm

In post 475, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 472, Boonskiies wrote:Uhm...you quoted my reasoning...?

Also, you had no reason to flat out be against a Mario lynch at the time. Exactly how I had no reason to be against a Shazam lynch until now.

Yes I did, the case was based on crap. He was being accused of telling people what to do which wasn't the and also that he wanted to focus on more than 1 person which is smart play. I've seen nothing else he's said or done that shows to me he's scum

So you are saying pro-town play is to focus one person only? You are contradicting what you had said earlier...

Boonskiies · Post Post #478 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:43 pm

It's smart play for both alignments; I don't get your case.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #479 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:45 pm

To say you think he should be lynched and than say you aren't scum reading him doesn't add up. If the only other reason is cause its an information Lynch, that also doesnt make sense from a town pov

P.edit - I don't think I am.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #480 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:46 pm

In post 463, Shazam wrote:
In post 460, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Boon is being confusing.

Boon is the one you're confused by? Really? There are at least two other players more confusing: Bulb and Woody.

Yea bulb has my vote. But I would be ok with you being lynched. Boon said the same thing, but his posts kinda go back and forth about you.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #481 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:47 pm

I feel like boon might be flip flopping on shazam town just to spite ww.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #482 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:48 pm

In post 477, Boonskiies wrote:So you are saying pro-town play is to focus one person only? You are contradicting what you had said earlier.

No he was attacked cause he didn't think town should focus on one person. That's clearly what I was saying.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #483 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:52 pm

In post 473, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 470, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 463, Shazam wrote:
In post 460, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Boon is being confusing.

Boon is the one you're confused by? Really? There are at least two other players more confusing: Bulb and Woody.

Bulb and woody are making sense. Why would they be confusing?

You get that Bulb was full on one of the head people against the mario slot, right?

Yes.and then he moved on and made good points about shazam scum. Shazam's reaction to 1 vote was off and bulba was correct in that. Shazam than tried to play it off like the vote on him was strictly omgus but it wasn't. His only basis is that he was the most vocal member of the wagon, but now you just said bulb was so that actual makes shazam's omgus claim even less accurate than it already was

Boonskiies · Post Post #484 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:58 pm

In post 479, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:To say you think he should be lynched and than say you aren't scum reading him doesn't add up. If the only other reason is cause its an information Lynch, that also doesnt make sense from a town pov

P.edit - I don't think I am.

In post 451, Boonskiies wrote:Which is another reason I'd like mario slot lynched. Even if he somehow flipped town reads would be shooting out of the wazoo. I really don't care at all about Day 1's, and I feel 20-30 pages is enough discussion for Day 1. It's just WIFOM central past that.

Shazam or Mario should definitely be the lynch toDay, as they have garnered the most reactions, and will help with reads after flips. NE isn't a Day 1 lynch here, as it won't provide ample information. Shazam/Mario slot will provide ample info, along with good chances of being scum.
I don't necessarily find Shazam scummy, so of course, I'm going to stick with my Mario case.

Seriously, CAN YOU PLEASE READ?!? I flat out said in the same post I was going to stick with lynching the Mario slot. Day 1 is all about information, and I've hammered my #1 town read in game before as town specifically because I knew it would help me catch scum. Luckily, my #1 town read ended up being scum...so...yeah. You straight up want whoever will give the most information from a Day 1 lynch. Somebody slips on Page 2. Great. You are officially getting no information that day, and you will basically start Day 2 as a second Day 1 (minus potential night actions), but with a scum handicap, which isn't bad, but there are better things to do...like lynch the scummiest player who will gives LOADS of information and actually allows us to catch MORE scum.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #485 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 481, GrayFoxxxx wrote:I feel like boon might be flip flopping on shazam town just to spite ww.

Agree with this. I didn't lie or misrep his posts. Boon absolutely said he thought he should be considered for a Lynch today which means he was scum reading on him on some level.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #486 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:02 pm

In post 484, Boonskiies wrote:Seriously, CAN YOU PLEASE READ?!? I

Oh I read. My post 485 still applies. The fact you even tossed his name in the Lynch pool means you are scum reading him on some level.

If you say you aren't than you are saying you don't really care who we Lynch as long as we Lynch somebody. Cause you don't "information" Lynch a town read...

Boonskiies · Post Post #487 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:02 pm

In post 485, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 481, GrayFoxxxx wrote:I feel like boon might be flip flopping on shazam town just to spite ww.

Agree with this. I didn't lie or misrep his posts. Boon absolutely said he thought he should be considered for a Lynch today which means he was scum reading on him on some level.

Sigh...hopeless...ignorant...little birdie.

Boonskiies · Post Post #488 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:02 pm

In post 486, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 484, Boonskiies wrote:Seriously, CAN YOU PLEASE READ?!? I

Oh I read. My post 485 still applies. The fact you even tossed his name in the Lynch pool means you are scum reading him on some level.

If you say you aren't than you are saying you don't really care who we Lynch as long as we Lynch somebody. Cause you don't "information" Lynch a town read...

Again, it doesn't. I've hammered my top town reads as town before.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #489 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:03 pm

In post 484, Boonskiies wrote:I've hammered my #1 town read in game before as town

If this is true, I'll never play another game with you again. Lynching town reads should never be done.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #490 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:03 pm

In post 488, Boonskiies wrote:Again, it doesn't. I've hammered my top town reads as town before.

So you are a VI? Got it

Boonskiies · Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:05 pm

In post 490, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 488, Boonskiies wrote:Again, it doesn't. I've hammered my top town reads as town before.

So you are a VI? Got it

No...I am THE village idiot. Get it right. It used to be in my sig. People hated it because I was a VI who was able to catch them as scum. I will do anything if it means I will figure out the scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:06 pm

I take pride for it. People in scum threads go "Careful of Boon; he's not as dumb as he wants you to believe."

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:07 pm

Ok whatever.

Boonskiies · Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:08 pm

Now I am at the point where I literally do whatever the hell I want. But I will always play to win. Regardless of what anyone else thinks when I am town, if I think it'll help town win, I'll do it.

Boonskiies · Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:08 pm

I GET NIGHT KILLED NIGHT 1 SOMETIMES IN LARGE NORMALS. Word. That's the dream.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:11 pm

Lynching town reads is playing against your win condition imo.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:12 pm

In post 495, Boonskiies wrote:I GET NIGHT KILLED NIGHT 1 SOMETIMES IN LARGE NORMALS. Word. That's the dream.

OK quick question. Is this something to take pride in? It's happened to me a couple of times.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:14 pm

Depends, usually it means mafia was afraid of you but sometimes scum kill people to frame people. You have to look at why you were nk'd

Boonskiies · Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:17 pm

In post 497, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 495, Boonskiies wrote:I GET NIGHT KILLED NIGHT 1 SOMETIMES IN LARGE NORMALS. Word. That's the dream.

OK quick question. Is this something to take pride in? It's happened to me a couple of times.

Yeah, it's something to be proud of. If you are killed Night 1, it means Scum doesn't want you in the game, be it by framing you or they see you as a threat. This is usually without a lot of information, so it is usually based on just you as the player in the game. I don't see Night 1 kills framing usually as a thing, because nobody in their right mind as scum would kill someone who they are in a deep 1v1 with, as it just creates pointless WIFOM in favor of Town.