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Vote: GrayFoxxxx
In post 19, Espeonage wrote:I am the cop, doc on me. Discuss.
As the creator and the brain behind the setup CD9*, I will tell you that you just lowered the town's expected win rate by approximately 9.7% with that post.
What does that exactly mean?
Well, if you had just straight updayvigged the town doctor insteadin your post, we would still have a higher chance of winning this game.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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For those that haven't done so yet, please place a random vote.
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In post 23, Flubbernugget wrote:Make me
I was hoping to use DGB's scumputer in this game to find scum.
It needs VCs to feed it though, so I'd really appreciate it if you voted.
In post 24, Runner wrote:VOTE: Bulbazoor
I'm not sure Espeonage was serious - I thought flippant comments like that were the norm in RVS?
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well, the answer is probably something approaching 100,000 times, but why does reliability of the stats matter to you?
In fact, why did the stat mattered to you in the first place? What if I had made up the numbers? How would the numbers even matter?
Also, esp claimed cop, not doc. As much as his move was subpar, "free kills" is something that is specifically countered by his opening.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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DGB and I worked out a new version of scumputer. It's quite experimental.
Optimal play for town is to scumhunt as normal and hope that their cop don't randomly claim page 1.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 36, Runner wrote:You created this setup - did you have this in mind as the optimal town play when you created it?
I do have an interesting course of action we could take as town, but it requires coordination, and frankly, I don't know if it will really help town.
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I want to see more of Gray and Jasmine. (as do everyone I'd imagine)
I also want to see more of Esp. His style here is much different than what I remember of his game few years ago. (andrius's hobbit mafia)My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Heh.
Yuriko's FG vote was telegraphed for awhile, and Gray's current posting rate around the site gives him credibility in his excuse. Their catchup posts are where I expected them to be at.
BBT's FG vote is fairly questionable though. I would expect scum_BBT to gun for me early in the game, and the way he makes sure support is there (his interaction with Yuriko) before jumping wagons is scum-indicative. (from my experience, town BBT does not concern himself with such trivialities)
Also, pressure votes on someone who is already active are waste of votes, which is why those on Runner wagon are throwing their votes away.
I'm not really a fan of Esp when he's advocating things like "put him at L-1 and see what happens". Baiting town VI hammer is something scum do.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 82, Runner wrote:FG's plan
I will just say it now. I'm interested in what town has to say about it.
I propose that weno lynchtoday and tomorrow.
This will net us two cop investigations at a cost of one mislynch, since we open d3 with 2v5 with 2 cop investigations.
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Because scum BBT recognizes that I'm a threat to him.
No problem. Go double ISO Yuriko and BBT and search for fakegod. BBT has zero mentions until Yuriko votes FG.
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I think I liked old Esp better.
He brought good old no nonsense scum smackdown to the table.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 95, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:So, instead of leaving you and just killing you at night he decides to attack you because...
You're right, I had zero mentions of you. I was interested in a Runner wagon and his responses make me think he could be town and now I'm interested in doing something else. I fail to see where I seek support for voting you.
It's dumb because it relies on the doc staying alive.
Nah. I read your past games. You are confident in your play. You would engage and play aggressively.
re: plan - You clearly didn't do the math. If you're going to make comments like that, can you please do the math first? Thanks.
In post 96, Flubbernugget wrote:FG so you seem to have believed the cop claim but are now proposing a no lynch for extra investigations?
Did you read my 26 where I say Esp's probably just kidding?
Because you obviously didn't read it.
In post 97, Espeonage wrote:This is categorically incorrect.
Pressure votes on inactive slots have never been, and never will be a good motivator. Pressure votes are only effective for getting differing content out of an active slot that is difficult to read either way.
Pressure votes on scum reads are also inherently scummy bc you are aiming to prove your read right to the rest of the game.
Inactives? There are no inactives in this game. Everyone's clearly here to some degree, reading.
Voting them will make them come defend themselves at the very least.
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In post 110, Xayzeck wrote:Sounds kinda risky though, also we won't get any decent flips to help with reads/cop investigations
Assuming we don't lose PRs this would work pretty well I'm imagining, but I don't feel very confident that this'll workout well tbh
Especially since we're gonna NL, it'd be extra useful to have a cop investigation so that we can base D2 reads on something, instead of walking into D2 with scum killing obvtown or smth like that. I mean, looking at the numbers this seems like a pretty good plan, but thinking about playing through it doesn't sounds like a very good idea. I wouldn't like being blind until D3 yknow
Scum can't just kill obvtown. We have a doctor.
Numbers work out, yes.
In theory, this is a good plan, but I understand why someone might have concerns with a plan like that.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 117, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
I see FG spending most of his time talking about set up spec and not enough time scum hunting.
You should go read my games.
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In post 115, Xayzeck wrote:FG talk to me about your vote and why it's still on Gray
It's a RVS vote.
Who do you think I should move it to? Maybe you can help me, because I don't really see anyone that Iobviouslyshould be voting at the moment.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 122, Runner wrote:FakeGod do you still stand by your plan to want to NL both days? It has a few glaring holes in it which makes me suspect, but it feels weird that what seems like such a bad plan would come from a player such as yourself, let alone the creator of this setup.
You call it "such a bad plan", yet, I seriously doubt you actually went and did the math?
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Every player who has called me mean has flipped town as far as I remember.
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Do you consider yourself a good scumhunter, bulb?
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In post 132, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 127, FakeGod wrote:
Last 4 out of 5 games or so of mine, I opened with setup spec. I was town in every single one.
I don't care for meta.
Unfortunately for your case, my meta becomes relevant, and I will tell you why.
In the games past two years, I have opened with setup spec in nearly every single game that I was a non-PR, in lieu of scumhunting, whether I drew scum or town.
It shows that I almost always open with setup spec in favor of early scumhunting regardless of alignment, which destroys your argument of "FG is scum because he's doing setup spec, and not scumhunting".
It's just something I do as a player. I simply do not think early scumhunting is effective, while setup speculations do need to be brought up early in the game.
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Bulb, look at your ISO.
You vote for Yuriko in 108 asking for more pressure votes, then change your vote before Yuriko even addressed it, all while putting up defensive posts in reaction to Xay's vote.
I see a rather impulsive player who is careless with his vote, and quite concerned with his own survival.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 138, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't care if you did set-up spec 1,000 times as town and have not yet done it to date as scum.
You didn't read my post very thoroughly.
My point was that it was not alignment indicative since I do it as either alignment, but I see that any more posts addressed to you is going to be a waste of time.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 143, Bulbazoor wrote:It tells you that I am town. You just talk about your meta while you do not care for other meta cases.
It tells me exactly what I wrote.
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In post 148, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:FG, what you wrote is ambiguous. It doesn't clarify whether you think he is bad town or scum.
Can you clarify please?
Why should I be thinking that he is a bad town, or scum, simply because he is an impulsive player?
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To get a reaction? Isn't that obvious?
I don't know why you even bothered to write 151.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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BBT, you say I'm not scumhunting, and perhaps I am not scumhunting in accordance of your own definition of the word.
I'm going to do things my way. This is how I find scum, and I don't really care if you think it's ineffective or scummy.
As for effectiveness, I don't think I need to remind you that I have only been endgamed once as town to this date.
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Runner, stop playing lazy, and do your own math.
Literally everything you posted in 156 can be answered by yourself, except the scumputer which I'm not allowed to divulge.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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I'm rather busy today. I may be busy tomorrow as well.
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It seems that in response to your posts drawing aggro, you are attempting to take advantage of the fact that there was a No Lynch action plan proposed earlier to defend yourself.
You have not once mentioned in this game your thoughts regarding the No Lynch action plan.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 211, Bulbazoor wrote:FG, did you forget you proposed nl?
Oh, oops.
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In post 204, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:but I'm much more weary of FG and would like to sort his slot out as soon as possible.
D'oh.
I'm starting to think that you might be being obtuse on purpose, so I'm going to lead you by the nose for a bit, and show my hand.
BBT, looking at my play so far, what do you believe my goal in d1 is,given that the setup is CD9*?My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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I gave you a ton of hints, in case you're wondering.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Runner, it doesn't make any sense for me to provide you with numbers, because just as you (or someone) said, I could just damn well make up whatever numbers that look favorable.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Yuriko, I asked for opinions on it pages ago.
Why choose to discuss it now? Is it just coincidence?
Because it seems super convenient for you to start talking about how you're open to No Lynch plan soon as you come under fire.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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People who haven't given their thoughts on the no lynch plan should give them.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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BBT, do you generally lynch wild cards?My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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My usual strategy is to ask them to lead a lynch.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Read Bulb ISO.
I admit that Bulb blatantly prioritizes self-survival, and I agree that self-survivalist play tend to come from scum.
But I feel that Bulb has been rather honest with his emotions in his posts. Maybe bit of that righteous anger you feel as town when you're being accused wrongly of being scum.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Busy unpacking today.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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I think Flub/Bulb are town.
Rest nullish. Runner maybe town.
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In post 376, Espeonage wrote:I would happily stake many things on yuri being scum rn.
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Do you life-gamble in your games a lot, or is this something you normally do not do?My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Read my 267 for bulb.
re: Runner, I have nothing to say.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Not really concerned too much about reading BBT d1, since he's most likely the nightkill target if he's town.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 397, Xayzeck wrote:In post 390, FakeGod wrote:
Read my 267 for bulb.
re: Runner, I have nothing to say.
My bad, wasn't super awake when catching up.
Replace bulb with flub
In post 327, Flubbernugget wrote:What more do you want
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In post 438, Espeonage wrote:I am willing to self vote if yuri flips town.
This statement should assay BBT's fears expressed in 435.
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I'm waiting for Jingle to clarify who's alive and not, but it looks like he modslipped and confirmed Gray as Town.
It also looks like Bulb townsiipped.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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re: Night Actions
Scum has no reason to forgo a night kill, so it's very likely that the doc made a save last night.
Also, given the way I played day 1, I wouldn't be surprised if I was targeted by all three, cop, doc, and the scum last night, which was what I was aiming for with my play.
Because when the PR targets synchronize in this setup, scum gets wrecked.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Bulb, please go read the setup again. Scum Goons have the ability to roleblock in this setup.
Esp lynch is almost certainly the play today.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Don't be daft.
In post 502, FakeGod wrote:I'm waiting for Jingle to clarify who's alive and notMy favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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He thinks because there is no roleblocker, scum cannot roleblock in this setup.
In post 487, Bulbazoor wrote:In post 486, Flubbernugget wrote:We also don't know if cop was role blocked
Townslip? Theres two goons dude. Or did you fake this?
In post 491, Bulbazoor wrote:In post 488, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 486, Flubbernugget wrote:We also don't know if cop was role blocked
Also a good point.
Forget what I said - outing Today is dumb.
Townslip? Or faked? Theres no rb.
In post 493, Bulbazoor wrote:THERE IS NO ROLEBLOCKER!!!My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Mod, give me a new VC then.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 512, Runner wrote:I don't see why Esp is the obvious play today?
Weren't you here when he bet his life that Yuriko was scum?My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Vote: EspMy favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 525, Espeonage wrote:Fakegod, what do you make of my claims on actions I would have performed as each power?
That's nice.
Please claim.
In post 530, Runner wrote:In post 522, FakeGod wrote:In post 512, Runner wrote:I don't see why Esp is the obvious play today?
Weren't you here when he bet his life that Yuriko was scum?
I believe he did that with town intentions. Why would scum Esp make a gambit like that Day 1, knowing there was a high chance he'd be quickly lynched the next day? It seems unlikely to me.
Ha.
He's either gambling scum, or a town player who has terrible reads but thinks he's better than he is.
Either way, he's worth a lot more dead than alive.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 516, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Also, you know as well as I do that's easily fakeable FG.
Nah, it looked genuine.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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d'ohMy favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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In post 532, Espeonage wrote:Oooooo, such pressure. There isn't even an expression of intent yet.
FG looking bad.
(In case of snap lynch, BBT is probably town, not assuredly, but probably. I think he's being daft on me, but then I saw being daft on yuri so I can't judge)
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In post 533, Runner wrote:Well, it seems as though it doesn't matter since you all seem fixed on ending this day quickly with a Esp lynch. Whatever. I'm not hammering.
Players with your behavior allow scum to lead lynches on town and get townread for it.
Esp knew what the consequences were when he used his life as a collateral.
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