FF7 Mafia (Game Over)

[Psychlone]

I'm actually just paranoid I'm always going to read you as scum.

Actually, based on singer/frog dynamics and the "burn" post, I don't think singer aggressively seeks interaction with frog in the way she did this game. Even if she genuinely thought they were scum, I think she would give them more room so she didn't have to engage with them as early as she did.

Rest of her posts aren't alarming.

You realize singer was aiming that at Titus (at least I thought so).

I didn't actually mean to quote that post :/

[Psychlone]

I like Antagonist's scumhunting so far, which tells me they are at least trying! Ika also seems pretty engaged for now, which is a good sign. I'd put this slot as less town than singer but not by a significant amount.

[Frogging Mollie]

Ah. I thought you were using that to highlight singer frog dynamics.

-Frog

[Flubbernugget]

170- @Mastina What is the point of it? and What did you gain from it?

The point is bragging rights. It's a statement of, "Hey, look, I'm so good, I was able to name Y players as town

before they had even posted

, just off of what I had available", essentially. (Also, gut, not to mention, having previous games factoring into my guess. Basically, know how I used to psychologically profile every single player in the game as scum, and make predictions off of that to help my scumteam? I do it as town, too, here: off of the gamestate and who the players are, I make predictions off of what they are.)

It is also entirely serious. Aside from some obvious jokes. (e.g. Bulbazak.) Which are more like me subtly giving sub-thoughts layered beneath my thoughts, in a contrived convoluted way. (For instance, the note about pie/notsci being scum is something I later expand upon--I don't think they're scum, but I'm acknowledging the paranoia deep down I have that they are.)

Really, look at that list. Aside from a few reads like Kaboose (down to nullish-scum) and singer (up to full town), it's basically unchanged. (Admittedly, we're literally two days into the game, and I'm pathetically slow to change my reads and admit they may be wrong, butstill, point remains all the same.)

Didn't you say that the town reads on people yet to post were erroneous?

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: mastin
somethingn mastin does as scum

...Yes, to imitate the vast number of town games I did it in before.

It's not a towntell anymore (there was a time it was one, but I broke it at some point, don't remember when), but it's also not a scumtell.

It's a me-tell. (Because, really. Is there anyone else as certifiably insane as me?
Butseriously, I can tell when there are great things in store for a person.)

I feel like this would be the post town would explain themselves in

[Psychlone]

Frogging Mollie looks extremely town. Level of engagement is good from the slot even when multiball is considered, but in particular, I don't think Mollie tells Aerith to full-out as scum: that's the time when she lets town attack a soft claim for being a soft claim and reaps benefits later.

[Scorpious]

@Frogging Mollie.

why do you not have a vote down? You are the most visible person(s) here atm,surely there is something that would get one down.

I'd hate to think all those posts were fluff..

[Psychlone]

Mastina falling in love with this game in the way that she as says town more than it says scum to me. She's right in that multiball is not the forum to play a loud, engaged scum game: it's the game to push for mislynches that would otherwise be hard to get and draw negative attention.

Hey, just think of it this way: even if I wa scum, there's two scumteams, so you could freely help me with hunting the other half! (Doesn't matter since I'm town, but there you go, reason to work with me even if paranoia gets the better of you!)

This doesn't really seem like the type of deal mastin would make as scum.

I mean, the more I play, the more it becomes clear people are hilariously bad at reading me. Except the people who matter. Who get it when they don't let paranoia get the better of them.

This also feels pretty town, as do the interactions with pie (both ends).

There's also a bunch of other little stuff here and there but the big takeaway point is that I don't think mastin-scum in multiball plays to get townread; mastin-scum in multiball plays to get mislynches or plays slightly scummily to increase survival rate, and this most definitely isn't that.

[Psychlone]

GiF-date: Flubber is town. Congratulations, Flubber!

[Psychlone]

@Frogging Mollie.

why do you not have a vote down? You are the most visible person(s) here atm,surely there is something that would get one down.

I'd hate to think all those posts were fluff..

What do you think of the reads I've talked about so far?

[Frogging Mollie]

yes I am here

froggy and I are having profound differences in our reads

can you both list both sides of the reads and why?

also mollie cna you talk to me about what i asked frogger also about the mutil-temas and daytalk

Psychlone - ??? Scum maybe
Flubbernugget - ???
singersigner - pretty town. I thought she was being nitpicky with points at first, but her reaction to me is really town. I don't think she gets this frustrated and aggro at me as scum
Saint - ???
The Antagonist - town ika
Fresh - ???
Focus Beam - town
free stool sample - town
Kaboose scum - opening was bad, overall not making any unique or good points, and too serious so far from what I'm used to from town!kaboose
Jaqen Hghar - ???
Varsoon - scum maybe
mastin2 - scum maybe, that reads list was bad but I'm wondering if she just wanted people to jump on her about it. But that would be a weird gambit so IDK.
Aeris - scum maybe
Seiko x Naomi - town
ProHawk - thought scum at first but now I think town
Scorpious - duh
ZZZX - I haven't sorted ZZZX yet and that makes me nervous because I've sorted him every game pretty quickly and only been wrong once, but I ended up lynching him as scum anyway
CB - scumlean, that catch up post wasn't his norm and it was p weak
TheIrishPope - town
hiplop - ??? have they even played yet?
Feysal - ???
Bulbazak - ??? have they even played yet?


- Frog

[Psychlone]

Psychlone - ??? Scum maybe

?

[Psychlone]

Aeris - scum maybe

?

[Kaboose]

I feel really upset about not having my name separated by a hyphen from the word scum like everyone else.

[Psychlone]

Our face kind of looks like a planet.

[Frogging Mollie]

I feel really upset about not having my name separated by a hyphen from the word scum like everyone else.

No, it's right. Your name is "Kaboose scum"

[The Antagonist]

scince mollie or anyone else seems to be wanting to answer/jump at my quesitons/speculations im going to slowly degrade into lurking

[Frogging Mollie]

I just answered a question of yours

[Psychlone]

Aeris - scum maybe

?

Psychlone - ??? Scum maybe

?

[Frogging Mollie]

Why is focus wagon a thing

@ProHawk, No. Not really. Mollie's more reserved. I've never seen her come out and threaten so aggressively out of RVS. Most of the counterwagon to Jaquen is people who I've had severe baggage with, which is why I wanted to enquire further. Mollie shouldn't have such baggage with me if I haven't fooled her as scum. Frogger and I have played more on Skype mafia than completed games, so I know the hostility is unlikely fueled by that head. So is she legit pissed, or just drawing a reaction here?

~Titus

Vote: Focus Beam

I'm not sure I need to read any further, but will do so anyways.

[7] Focus Beam (singersigner, The Antagonist, Frogging Mollie, mastin2, Seiko x Naomi, Feysal, Varsoon)

D:
Either singer is scum or my reads are terrible.

Vote: singersigner

Let's find out!

[7] Focus Beam (singersigner, The Antagonist, Frogging Mollie, mastin2, Seiko x Naomi, Feysal, Varsoon)

D:
Either singer is scum or my reads are terrible.

Vote: singersigner

Let's find out!

...wat.

Well, I have town reads on Focus + Focus's entire wagon except for you.

What is going on here with your read on Focus Beam?

Town, then scum, then vote singer as the only scum on the Town!Focus Beam wagon?

Also, singer made her point about her vote being RVS, and the way you approached her being scum looked like PoE on the Focus Beam wagon (you townread everyone else so singer must be scum), but then when she called you out for that you then switched to her town p quickly or I'm misunderstanding your 644. Even if you still scumread singer, then you need to make a better case. Also, I hate when I'm scumread for activity/engagement, but why are you even townreading us for activity/engagement too? I don't even see how that is a point, but it feels like buddying to push a singer mislynch.

Frogging Mollie looks extremely town.

Level of engagement is good from the slot even when multiball is considered

, but in particular, I don't think Mollie tells Aerith to full-out as scum: that's the time when she lets town attack a soft claim for being a soft claim and reaps benefits later.

pedit: I'M WRITING A RESPONSE NOW OBV

[Frogging Mollie]

^Frog

[The Antagonist]

I just answered a question of yours

read list was an ended quesiotn (i did have to check what you did answer)

ill get to it in a sec, can you answer the others unles ifthey are answer inthere

[The Antagonist]

Psychlone - ??? Scum maybe
Flubbernugget - ???

how comes hes ??? he made planet of posts....

singersigner - pretty town. I thought she was being nitpicky with points at first, but her reaction to me is really town. I don't think she gets this frustrated and aggro at me as scum
Saint - ???
The Antagonist - town ika
Fresh - ???
Focus Beam - town

elaborate

free stool sample - town

elaborate

Kaboose scum - opening was bad, overall not making any unique or good points, and too serious so far from what I'm used to from town!kaboose
Jaqen Hghar - ???

why?

Varsoon - scum maybe
mastin2 - scum maybe, that reads list was bad but I'm wondering if she just wanted people to jump on her about it. But that would be a weird gambit so IDK.
Aeris - scum maybe

why?

Seiko x Naomi - town
ProHawk - thought scum at first but now I think town

why?

Scorpious - duh
ZZZX - I haven't sorted ZZZX yet and that makes me nervous because I've sorted him every game pretty quickly and only been wrong once, but I ended up lynching him as scum anyway
CB - scumlean, that catch up post wasn't his norm and it was p weak
TheIrishPope - town
hiplop - ??? have they even played yet?
Feysal - ???
Bulbazak - ??? have they even played yet?

ok know what can you expand on like half of those? i can get behind some of them but most of them are ended on whys....

[Psychlone]

What is going on here with your read on Focus Beam?

Town, then scum, then vote singer as the only scum on the Town!Focus Beam wagon?

GiF was the person who read Focus Beam as town, I initially read them as scum since Titus was acting weird in her interactions with Mollie early game. Then Salamence made that overdramatic "YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO ME" post and I started to townread the slot more than I did before.

Then (or around that time), GiF and I started to talk, we both agreed Focus!town and it seemed likely there was at least one scum on the wagon if Focus wasn't town. I agreed, I looked at the wagon and it consisted of the 6 town reads I had and just named and singer. I voted singer.

ISO of her showed a subtle towntell that I didn't pick up on the first time through, so I unvoted and am currently looking at the wagon closer than I was before.

[Psychlone]

why are you even townreading us for activity/engagement too? I don't even see how that is a point, but it feels like buddying to push a singer mislynch.

Mollie having good activity/engagement has been a good town tell in my experiences with her.