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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:41 pm

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dragonspawn wrote:I have no control over what you think of me.

If you think people have no control over how other people read them then I actually have no idea why you're playing mafia. Literally the entire point of mafia is that we figure out what people are because what they do influences how we see them.

In post 1140, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1138, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 1128, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Ok my reads from D1 after going through Bulbs ISO.

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It's obvious that Piss is going anywhere right now. I want to hear more from KK before decide on a vote. Boon has been quiet too.


I don't understand why piss though.


Ok guys you got me.
I'm crying IRL now.

Yeah, turns out this entire game is a conspiracy to troll you, we all know piss is obvscum for lying
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:54 pm

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I have played with Khan before, once, years ago, and I had a really shit read on him that game. So not particularly useful. His behavior towards dragonspawn right now is pretty much exactly what I'd expect from experienced town who had a scumread on someone who townslipped. That's not a super strong thing though.

Now, in terms of reading spicer. does actually make me think town for one reason: I don't think it's particularly likely that scum would go out of their way to paint shazam as the vigshot and fa as the scumshot. The first sentence of is also somewhat town.

Eh. I don't have the best direction to go in. I guess I'll probably look more at other peoples' interactions with bulb.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:57 pm

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I played with khan recently. I was scum, and he was somehow the D1 lynch. I see a few similarities between Khan here and him there, but in a vacuum Im not really townreading him. I guess I don't think he's scum either though.
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:12 pm

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Alright. Let's see.

I'm not interested in lynching Anna in the foreseeable future. Her read on Bulb sounded genuine, its evolution was genuine and she joined the wagon from having a townread at a crucial time (votes were 4-3 in favor of the FA wagon when she jumped on bulb). I really don't think her play looks like bulb-scumbuddy play.

Boon I'm ignoring for now. I might look more at him later.

Also ignoring dragonspawn for now.

Gray seems like he was decently committed to the bulb push for a while.

Bleh. This is feeling less productive as i go on.

Khan's actions towards bulb could easily be scum->scum. Early weak scum read, calling him vaguely suspicious.

pisskop's vote could also easily be a bus. It was an initially very tepid vote that he never really strongly committed to, the kind of thing that also could have been a sort of kick to try to get bulb to start playing better.

Dom i can see either way.

Woody idk.

For now, I'm actually going to try this and see what happens.

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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:20 pm

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I'm really not a fan of this pisskop wagon. I do want to see more material from him but this just seems like his normal play
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:19 pm

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Alrighty. Caught up.

I'm liking the Khan wagon, dragon. I definitely didn't like how KK came in yesterday near the end of the day trying to push for FA lynch. I liked the FA lynch, and I didn't like how he did it. Awkward pressure on dragon, seems like something was trying to be forced, but maybe that's just me being overprotective of my Draggy. I also don't like how strong he pushes everything, as it seems forceful.

I am bound to think that Implosion is now town, based off the Bulb lynch. Implosion more than anyone based on the way he interacted with Bulb just doesn't make sense as Scum v Scum.
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:26 pm

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future replacement


There are 10 active players.
Absolute majority is
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Previous vote count
Next vote count

Spoiler: Current player list
[01] Bulbazoor -
Mafia
- watcher (variant) - lynched day 1

[02] dragonspawn
[03] GrayFoxxxx
[04] FA_Q2 -
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[05] implosion
[06] Boonskiies
[07] spicer1209
[08] Shazam -
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- vanilla - killed night 1

[09] pisskop
[10] Annarchy
[11] TheDominator37
[12] Kublai Khan
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:36 pm

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Also, I believe that one of Khan/NE(spicer)/Woodpecker is probably scum.
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:39 pm

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^ what's that based on? just general scumreads, or is there a reason those three in particular hold scum?
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:59 pm

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pisskop

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WoodyWoodpecker

GrayFoxxxx \/

Kublai Khan \/



Notes on biggest movements:


• The obvious movement here is Kublai Khan going down. I really don't like his take on things, and the way he goes about his pushes; it seems forced. With this, Woodywoodpecker, and Spicer have become my thoughts on who could potentially be part of the scum team due to their lack of placement on Bulb's wagon, which I believe because of the basis of that wagon, at least one scum was probably off of it, as it was an obvious bus.

• Pisskop has stayed pretty much the same. I can't seem to get a read on him. Finally, he's pushing something, which I do find town-lean, but I don't necessarily like the wagon right now.

• Implosion has leaped to the top for me; I flat out can't see Bulb/Implosion's interactions as Scum v Scum.

• Another shocking thing here is Dom has moved up, yet again. Like Implosion, I can't see Bulb actually outing his scum partner like that. That being said, maybe I just don't want to believe that is what happened, because honestly, I'd feel really bad for Dom...it's part of the game. The fact that it still could be a potential thing makes me feel a little uneasy about it, but I'll leave that until a little later, so for now I like thinking that didn't happen.

• Grayfoxxx moved down...I think the pressure on Pisskop is fine! I like it. Pisskop needs to have some pressure. I just don't understand what Grayfoxxx is trying to accomplish, especially since his vote is being abstained. I also don't necessarily like his interactions with Spicer. I feel if Grayfoxx is scum, most likely scum partner would be Khan, which is why Pecker/Spicer are Null-Scum; I wanna believe I'm right about Khan. Also, I can somewhat see Bulb vs Grayfoxxx as Scum v Scum, moreso than I can with Implosion.

Other Notes:

- I'd like to think both scum aren't on the Bulb wagon, but I do believe at least one is.



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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:03 pm

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@Anna, dom

Could we agree to lynch one of

KK or piss? I feel KK would yield the most info. I still don't like piss, and I am negotiable on Imp.

Boon can you do one of those cool color lists.

Pedit: called it
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:12 pm

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Really don't see a good risk/benefit for me, in trying a Hail Mary like starting a bulb wagon, and pushing him the same way I am doing piss.

Like I said I am obvtown at this point. Anna too.
Anyone that thinks different concerns me.

Boon any other reasons you think I'm scum besides my interactions with one of your scum lean reads.
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:17 pm

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Not really. I'm in a weird place right now. My town read flipped, my big scum read flipped town. You and the two above you are me trying to POE the game out, except it's Day 2, and it really isn't working. But I reread the Bulb/you convo, and I can see the idea of you just hard busing Bulb. I can also see you probably thinking Bulb is inexperienced, and thought he would ruin your chances of winning as scum.

Out of KK and Piss, I'd MUCH rather lynch KK right now. I guarantee that if Pisskop starts interacting more I can figure him out. Him and I have a lot of games played together.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:18 pm

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If KK flips scum, I can safely keep my Dragonspawn read. I'm a little worried that I might just have my Best Friend bias carrying over, but I do feel he townslipped, so that's comforting.
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:19 pm

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loI dont think youre obvtown. Anna is, but you trying to wish yourself it doesnt make it so.

An early vp on bulba could be done by scum. It ties up your vote, and lets you maintain any stremgth case you want.

Asking if VPing is viable for scum is silly

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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:19 pm

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and happy cakeday
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:20 pm

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Boon do you realistically think thats what happened? I just decided to bus bulb, before he REALLY starting acting scummy? Pls don't do dis
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:24 pm

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I mean, I would have. I'm sure he could have easily been obviously a noob in your scum chat. I've had that happen during my first scum game. Massive decided to hardcore bus me because he thought I'd hurt his chances of scum...I won that scum game, as the SOLE SCUM SURVIVOR after two successful buses on my partners, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MASSIVE. ;) I mean, I can see the exact same thing happening here.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:27 pm

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In post 237, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 235, Boonskiies wrote:Help me see things from your perspective.


If game ended today. I think I would find at least one scum in Bulb,implosion,and shazam


Someone show me 1 game where scum starts wagon on scum, this early D1, and keeps vote there for lynch.

If you can I will concede I am not obvtown.

Until then you are reaching super hard, and it looks anti town at the least.

I cant really add anything else to the topic.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:29 pm

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In post 1160, GrayFoxxxx wrote:@Anna, dom

Could we agree to lynch one of

KK or piss? I feel KK would yield the most info. I still don't like piss, and I am negotiable on Imp.

Boon can you do one of those cool color lists.

Pedit: called it

I'm not comfortable with the pisskop wagon and I'm only semi comfortable with the KK wagon and would like to see him defend and not chainsaw dragon
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:31 pm

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In post 1167, Boonskiies wrote:I mean, I would have. I'm sure he could have easily been obviously a noob in your scum chat. I've had that happen during my first scum game. Massive decided to hardcore bus me because he thought I'd hurt his chances of scum...I won that scum game, as the SOLE SCUM SURVIVOR after two successful buses on my partners, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MASSIVE. ;) I mean, I can see the exact same thing happening here.


So you guys bussed each other? Can I see this game?

Also your meta reading me based off of yourself?

In a situation that doesn't resemble this one at all?

You say you bussed him(massive I guess?) cuz he bussed you. That's not even close to what happened this game. Pls don't do dis
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Case of Missing Doctor Pepper

Massive and I were scum, with Anatole.
Massive votes me real early in the game, unvotes for a little bit, then goes back to vote me the rest of the day. Keep in mind, this is the 4th longest Day 1 of a Mini Normal ever, as we had over 100 pages Day 1.
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:34 pm

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I didn't bus him until Day 5, I believe. Anatole I bused Day 3 by claiming fake tracker claim. (one that we talked about in our scum thread.)

I'm not really meta reading you, I'm just looking at a simple situation that could have happened. Don't look too much into it, Khan is lightyears further on my want to lynch scale.

Speaking of Khan, what are your thoughts on him? You posted interest a second ago that he should be one of the possible lynches today, but I'm not sure if you had said anything about that this game? I could be wrong and have forgotten, but eh...
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:36 pm

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I'm pretty much just talking about the Day 1 situation. The other stuff was me just being prideful of that scum win.
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:37 pm

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In post 1172, Boonskiies wrote:I didn't bus him until Day 5, I believe. Anatole I bused Day 3 by claiming fake tracker claim. (one that we talked about in our scum thread.)

I'm not really meta reading you, I'm just looking at a simple situation that could have happened. Don't look too much into it, Khan is lightyears further on my want to lynch scale.

Speaking of Khan, what are your thoughts on him? You posted interest a second ago that he should be one of the possible lynches today, but I'm not sure if you had said anything about that this game? I could be wrong and have forgotten, but eh...


My whole read on Khan is based on 2 things

His push on FQ

Every post he had about/towards bulb. Iso him and see for your self.

I feel he is the scum that could have been on the counter wagon

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