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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:42 pm

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In post 1222, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1217, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1213, Kublai Khan wrote:Stop it, GrayFoxxxx. spicer1209 has a point. Being the first on a scum wagon does not make you auto-town. His hypothetical is plausible.

Didn't say it wasnt. His point is that it's possible. So what? What wieght does his read have with only possibilities/plausibilities?

His read is weak and I'm not sue why he isnt trying harder.

Again I'm asking ANYONE to show a game where what spicer is claiming has happened.

1) All our reads are based on possibilities and plausibilities? Except for scum, I guess. I'm not understanding this point.
2) Why would he try hard with a weak read? I'm not understanding this point either.
3) First, that's pretty hard to search for. Plus I think someone posted something. And the point of "nobody has a record of something similar happening, therefore it can't happen" isn't a great defense. Or even logically sound.
4) Alcohol is possibly making me understand things less. It does taste good though.


1. JUST on possibilities though? No logic behind it? Which leads me to 3.

3. MY POINT. It's a reach just to say "this could happen so here's my read" like spice is.
Also you want to bring in logic when I defend myself, but stay with the "plausibilities" with spicers read. Be consistent.

2. Spice has only really pressured me off of hopes and dreams. No logic.

If Spices best scum read can be summed up as "anything is possible" than fuck yes he needs to dig down deep, grab tight, and try harder.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:45 pm

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In post 1224, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1221, GrayFoxxxx wrote:If KK isn't scum which one(maybe 2?) of boon/ww/implosion was the scum on the counter wagon?

Also, who is this question to?

Because it's base on assumption (opposing counter-waong MUST have one scum). Of those three it's tough because I have townreads on all of them.


Opposing counter wagons probably happens almost every game. Sorry to assume the same thing happened here.

Maybe I should just go with any random thing that's possible like spice is doing.
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:46 pm

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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:51 pm

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In post 1212, pisskop wrote:I didnt 'flip' :D I won.

Dom's posts late yesterday suggest he could have been coaching Dom. They sem pretty obvious to me.


It's so well known scum has day chat at this point that this post seems fake.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:52 pm

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In post 1219, pisskop wrote:He did. That doesnt quite change that If Im suspected of bussing dom and bulba how were going to 1v1 you and I though . .

My personal choices today are some T&A for DS and a lynch on Dom.

DS's most recent posts are nowhere near my experience with him.

pedit: A game in which scum VPed on another scum?


I'm not sure how to respond because I'm not sure what you are trying to say
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:53 pm

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In post 1225, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
1. JUST on possibilities though? No logic behind it? Which leads me to 3.

3. MY POINT. It's a reach just to say "this could happen so here's my read" like spice is.
Also you want to bring in logic when I defend myself, but stay with the "plausibilities" with spicers read. Be consistent.

2. Spice has only really pressured me off of hopes and dreams. No logic.

If Spices best scum read can be summed up as "anything is possible" than fuck yes he needs to dig down deep, grab tight, and try harder.

You';re losing me, GreyFoxxxx. You seemed logical before, now it seems like you're over-defending something that seems like it would be trivial to you if you were town.

I mean, I'll re-read you and spicer1209 tomorrow with a clearer head, but I'm not seeing it here and now.
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:56 pm

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In post 1223, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1204, pisskop wrote:Are you claiming i bussed bulba and now am bussing dom? :|

I missed this.

No, I do't think that TheDominator23 is scum at all. I think you could/would easily buss Bulbazoor snf are now pushign a bad vote/case on TheDominator23.

I mean I wasnt quite directing this at you but I beg to differ. Ill get on this tomorrow. Or something
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:57 pm

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In post 1231, pisskop wrote:
In post 1223, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1204, pisskop wrote:Are you claiming i bussed bulba and now am bussing dom? :|

I missed this.

No, I do't think that TheDominator23 is scum at all. I think you could/would easily buss Bulbazoor snf are now pushign a bad vote/case on TheDominator23.

I mean I wasnt quite directing this at you but I beg to differ. Ill get on this tomorrow. Or something

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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:58 pm

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In post 1228, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1212, pisskop wrote:I didnt 'flip' :D I won.

Dom's posts late yesterday suggest he could have been coaching Dom. They sem pretty obvious to me.


It's so well known scum has day chat at this point that this post seems fake.

what are you talking about?

You know I voted Dom for his posts, yea? Why does that seem fake now?
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:37 pm

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In post 1230, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1225, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
1. JUST on possibilities though? No logic behind it? Which leads me to 3.

3. MY POINT. It's a reach just to say "this could happen so here's my read" like spice is.
Also you want to bring in logic when I defend myself, but stay with the "plausibilities" with spicers read. Be consistent.

2. Spice has only really pressured me off of hopes and dreams. No logic.

If Spices best scum read can be summed up as "anything is possible" than fuck yes he needs to dig down deep, grab tight, and try harder.

You';re losing me, GreyFoxxxx. You seemed logical before, now it seems like you're over-
defending
something that seems like it would be trivial to you if you were town.

I mean, I'll re-read you and spicer1209 tomorrow with a clearer head, but I'm not
seeing
it here and now.


I'm defending what? Seeing what?
Yea put the drink down.

Spices read on me sucks, I can quote my posts giving my reasons. I would rather you just read them.

I haven't changed my stance. Not sure where you're getting lost. Reread when you aren't drinking I guess.
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:42 pm

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In post 1233, pisskop wrote:
In post 1228, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1212, pisskop wrote:I didnt 'flip' :D I won.

Dom's posts late yesterday suggest he could have been coaching Dom. They sem pretty obvious to me.


It's so well known scum has day chat at this point that this post seems fake.

what are you talking about?

You know I voted Dom for his posts, yea? Why does that seem fake now?


His post seem like coaching? even though he could have just talked to him in scum chat.

Only reason I think you would ask this is to seem like a town who is ignorant.
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:48 pm

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In post 1230, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1225, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
1. JUST on possibilities though? No logic behind it? Which leads me to 3.

3. MY POINT. It's a reach just to say "this could happen so here's my read" like spice is.
Also you want to bring in logic when I defend myself, but stay with the "plausibilities" with spicers read. Be consistent.

2. Spice has only really pressured me off of hopes and dreams. No logic.

If Spices best scum read can be summed up as "anything is possible" than fuck yes he needs to dig down deep, grab tight, and try harder.

You';re losing me, GreyFoxxxx. You seemed logical before, now it seems like you're over-defending something that seems like it would be trivial to you if you were town.

I mean, I'll re-read you and spicer1209 tomorrow with a clearer head, but I'm not seeing it here and now.


Seeing how as I think you're scum your view on this situation can't really be taken for face value.

Just consider that when you sober up.
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:06 pm

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I'm gonna be pissed if Dragonspawn and Pisskop are the scum.
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:06 pm

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Also, my Grayfoxxx/KK association is fading...
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:13 pm

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I have a bad trust issue with people I like to play with often...DS and Pisskop being scum together this game would flat out break my heart...please don't be scum.

Also, I want one of Grayfoxx/KK lynched toDay.

I didn't like Fox's 1221. It seems like he's trying to set up multiple mislynches. For all I know, he could be drawing scum away from the Bulbazor lynch. Both scum might have bused. Like honestly, who wouldn't bus Bulbazor at that point if, as his partner, saw him flailing literally the entire day.

Also, I'm starting to see a Grayfoxxx/Pisskop connection. I believe they may be going through some kind of scum theatre? Notice how foxxxy is constantly talking about ScumPiss, yet he fails to ever vote him. He even goes as far as to vote KK, the other wagon that has been starting. Granted, I like that vote, but it makes me a little doubting my KK read.
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:19 pm

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Yeah, I'm starting to doubt my idea that at least one scum had to be off of Bulb. I think it's probably Grayfoxx and Pisskop. My pisskop read is completely based off of Grayfoxxx being scum, though. If Grayfoxxx flipped town, I'd want KK lynched immediately. I do believe there to be at least one scum in GF/KK.
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:04 am

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In post 1239, Boonskiies wrote:

I didn't like Fox's 1221. It seems like he's trying to set up multiple mislynches.
By naming the people of the other wagon?



For all I know, he could be drawing scum away from the Bulbazor lynch.
what? For all you know ?


Both scum might have bused.

You tried showing me where scum did what youre saying. TRIED.
wierd you keep pushing that agenda


Like honestly, who wouldn't bus Bulbazor at that point if, as his partner, saw him flailing literally the entire day.

he wasn't flailing when I voted him.



Also, I'm starting to see a Grayfoxxx/Pisskop connection. I believe they may be going through some kind of scum theatre?
your question mark here shows you don't really believe that.



Notice how foxxxy is constantly talking about ScumPiss,
I've talked about KK more.
yet he fails to ever vote him.
I have 1 vote. How can I vote 2 people? I'll lynch either today


He even goes as far as to vote KK, the other wagon that has been starting.

Wtf? So it's scummy that I didn't vote, and it's scummy that I did vote...
Granted, I like that vote, but it makes me a little doubting my KK read.
ok...so you do or don't like it?

Boon didn't really commit to any reads here. Just alot of "what ifs" I'm going to call this "The Spicer Effect"

It's also bad the boon is completely ignoring FQ wagon for scum.
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:05 am

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In post 1240, Boonskiies wrote:Yeah, I'm starting to doubt my idea that at least one scum had to be off of Bulb. I think it's probably Grayfoxx and Pisskop. My pisskop read is completely based off of Grayfoxxx being scum, though. If Grayfoxxx flipped town, I'd want KK lynched immediately. I do believe there to be at least one scum in GF/KK.


So boon thinks I'm the best lynch today?
Right after I ask about FQ wagon...
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:15 am

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In post 1162, Boonskiies wrote:Not really. I'm in a weird place right now. My town read flipped, my big scum read flipped town.


In post 801, Boonskiies wrote:

I want an Anarcchy/FA lynch.

In post 865, Boonskiies wrote:


VOTE: FA-Q2


In post 913, Boonskiies wrote:Khan, can we settle for FA today? Dragon, you should hop on too.


In post 938, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 937, TheDominator37 wrote:He's almost soft reading FA hoping for a mislynch
In post 928, Bulbazoor wrote:I feel like I am about to be mislynched.

And then here this post means nothing. If you are about to be lynched and you are town we know it will be a mislynch. You don't have to say that



Not that I'm going to defend the statement or anything, as I plan on being the hammer vote for Bulb if it goes to L-1...I have constantly said that exact same thing as town, so....yeah. It's a pointless statement, don't know why it was brought up. Well, usually I don't say "i feel like..." i say it in the tense that it is inevitably going to happen.


Above you see some of Boon's reads D1. Not really reliable so far. He even goes as far as askin KK to help lynch FQ. He then faults KK for doing it later.

Boon is dropping fast on town list.

I'm still OK with A KK or piss lynch.
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:16 am

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Also quoted bulb to show the one weak exchange they had. Boon never hammered like he promised.
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:21 am

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In post 1240, Boonskiies wrote:Yeah, I'm starting to doubt my idea that at least one scum had to be off of Bulb. I think it's probably Grayfoxx and Pisskop. My pisskop read is completely based off of Grayfoxxx being scum, though.


What about ALL of your D1 interactions with piss?
Why are you unnecessarily putting so much value in my lynch?
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:23 am

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I don't see any reason boon would really think I am scum.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:23 am

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In post 1237, Boonskiies wrote:I'm gonna be pissed if Dragonspawn and Pisskop are the scum.


Then you have nothing to worry about.
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:25 am

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In post 1247, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 1237, Boonskiies wrote:I'm gonna be pissed if Dragonspawn and Pisskop are the scum.


Then you have nothing to worry about.


Dragon, what's your read on boon?
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