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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:38 am

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Phil Collins is sitting on the roof of a radio station and banging around with a hammer. The station manager runs outside.


Station Manager.
There he is, over there. PHIL COLLINS, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?!
Phil.
It’s me new career. I sell Alamo-themed gutters!
Station Manager.
What?! The Alamo has nothing at all to do with gutters.
Phil.
Sure it does. How do you think the Alamo defenders fought off those dirty Mexicans?
Station Manager.
You know America lost that battle, right?
Phil.
Really now?
Station Manager.
Yes.
Phil.
Well as far as I know, I’m the world’s leading volunteer expert on the Alamo, and you’re a lowly scientist. I think I would know better, wouldn’t you?
Diego.
(From afar.) Boss, where do you want these coonskin gutters to go?
Station Manager.
COONSKIN GUTTERS?
Phil.
Oh, they’re all the rage. They really give your roofline the feeling of the American frontier.
Diego.
(From afar.) So, just all over the building?
Phil.
You’re the expert, go nuts. Ooh, do put them under all of the windows, too. This station has money.
Station Manager.
I don’t want them to feel like anything, I just want them to carry water!
Phil.
Oh, you really should have gone with another model, then.

A Security Guard also walks out of the building


Station Manager.
I paid you to install gutters, not these! The contract says “basic gutters!”
Phil.
Right! Basic is usually the most expensive option, right?
Station Manager.
I…am…going…to…murder…
Security Guard.
Should I tase him?
Phil.
Don’t tase me, bro!
Diego.
(From afar.) Yeah, don’t tase him, bro.
Phil.
Maybe my contract was a touch misleading. What could I do to make it up to you?


The band wakes up inside an Alamo themed restaurant. There is a corpse on one of the tables. A sentence is scrawled on the wall in what appears to be blood, but is actually just ketchup.

Peter.
"Several men enter.... then two men don't leave because they're dead but everyone else can."
Steve.
He's really losing it, isn't he?

Juls
Selling England By the Pound - Town

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Band Member - Peter Gabriel
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You have no active abilities

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1. You have the ability to cast votes for lynches.
2. You win when all threats to the town are dead.

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Selling England by the Pound [Peter Gabriel], Town
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With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch. Deadline is 8/15 at 5PM EST.
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:41 am

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Today, the town must choose two players to lynch. The lynches will happen one-after-the-other, with lynch thresholds changing as required for simple majority. The players will not flip until the end of the day.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:44 am

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Tsk. That's probably a town Power Role, but a Master finds it mildly annoying.

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Zakk, I lose faith in you.
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:46 am

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Also, thank you Master Untrod Tripod for the flavor. They are rather entertaining.
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:28 am

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Time to do some serious reading.
You are not more paranoid than me!!!!
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:15 am

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1. yeeessss not only a lurker death but scum!

2. bbmolla looks even townier due to this flip / his comments

3. jazzmyn looks scummier, due to avoiding the wagon + metaing Lambda instead

4. the singer kill throws more suspicion on Lambda as well

5. why do you lose faith in me, zik?
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:25 am

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V/LA until Tuesday


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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:58 am

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Hi nacho.
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:00 am

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When did you begin to suspect Cabd, zakk?
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:40 am

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Looking back at Cabd's posts, I think it's a pretty safe bet that there are more scum among his top two "tiers":

In post 1526, Cabd wrote:Sneaking a post in from work; will explain these later but here's my initial thoughts:

Tier "I'm more likely to eat a dick while falling off the Empire State Building while singing "Singing in the Rain" than these things have the probability to be scum"

Vi
Lady Lambdadelta

Tier "Probably not Scum but weaker than the above couple"

zakk
Ranmaru
Nachomamma8


In post 1974, Cabd wrote:For what it's worth, those really are my reads and this game is being snowed really hard FMPOV.

Hahahahaha.


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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:56 am

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In post 2005, zakk wrote:
3. jazzmyn looks scummier, due to avoiding the wagon + metaing Lambda instead

4. the singer kill throws more suspicion on Lambda as well

3. I wasn't "avoiding" the wagon; someone previously asked me to meta Lady and Ranmaru and I said I would so I wanted to get those posts in before the day ended. Cabd was at L-1 and I didn't want to hammer him before I got finished.

4. Yep.

And if you want to talk about those
actually
"avoiding" the Cabd wagon, take a look at this:

In post 1955, Untrod Tripod wrote:
Votecount 2.18BBmolla
Cabd - 5 (BBmolla, Master Zik, Nachomamma, Vi, singersigner)
Jazzmyn
Kagami - 2 (Cabd, zakk)
Lady Lambdadelta
Master Zik - 2 (LLD, Ranmaru)
Nachomamma8
Ranmaru
singersigner
Vi
zakk

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is (expired on 2015-07-30 17:00:00)


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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:56 am

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Vote: Jazzmyn


Her introduction post is a bit of a disconnect from her vote on Plum/Me yesterday. Still has yet to give reasoning as to why she was voting me. I mean trying to implicate his town reads when he hasn't even gone into his scumreads at all, while she didn't do much to explain her own reads (while only doing 'meta dive'), is suspicious to me. To me it feels she doesn't really care to use the meta much. Otherwise she'd state her conclusion. All I get is a 'meh, I got nothing out of it'.

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@
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Now I know we should lynch TWO people at once but I'll have to come back to that in a bit. That is a bit much without being able to see a flip. I'll think on it but I definitely want Jazz.
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:05 pm

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Hi Ranmaru,

After re-reading the game with a scum flip in the bag, I think that you and Lady are most likely scum. There is one fib that I have told during the game, though. I never actually had a town read on Lady; I just made that up.

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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:07 pm

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Hey Jazzmyn. Let's talk about before the scumflip, and not after. Why resort only to scumreading me on association? What was your reasoning for voting me? What did you conclude from seeing my scum meta?

Why did you make the Lady read up?
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:16 pm

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@Kagami:


This is where I opened my mind:
In post 1786, zakk wrote:
I do not endorse a Cabd lynch
. At least not today
I do not endorse a Lambda lynch. Probably won't ever

I DO endorse a Plum lynch. This is much too difficult to push through a lunch on somebody that very few people believe is town and has wiggled out from under pressure so many times
In post 1787, zakk wrote:Actually on consideration,
we gain nothing by me being pigheaded


I've made my Plum suspicion more than clear. If I die you guys know who to lynch

Now
let's look at other targets


Zik/Lambda/VI/Ranmaru
Lead on. Talk to me

A few of you suspect
Cabd
a few of you suspect Jazzmyn and a few of you suspect singer

Who is the best to lynch and why
Let's look at all sides of this thing

Who gives us the most info with a flip?

I was pretty tunnelly on your slot till that point.

Plus I had a lot of townreads, some of which keep getting stronger (BBmollamance20, Metalmaster Sonzik), some of which have gotten way weaker (Lady ΛΔ), and some of which are maintaining a similar level of towniness (SleepyRanmakruw, Nalchobamart 8. Rampage).

Also, when he said that seemed like scum trying to play a weak AtE (and now its confirmed). Still wasn't enough to lynch him imo, except that I had so many town reads already and I was just ready for the day to end (more the second one than the first one)

Here's the post:

In post 1916, zakk wrote:
In post 1913, Cabd wrote:Home with my cat,
see people voting me and am sadz
. Will explain rest of my reads shortly.

Mislynching me would be sadface...

this part sets off all kinds of spidey sense

defeatism + AtE in the same post
this is not town

So before that, it was PoE + apathy + bloodlust + annoyance = Cabd wagon is a good idea
Up until tha post, then Cabd actually started looking scummy independently.

Which brings me to: Cabd staying on your wagon was a curious thing. Thats making me rethink a lot of my suspicions, including you. I need to read more associations from yesterday with the Cabd slot and see what I see, but at the moment based entirely on the wagon:

On the wagon
:

- BBmolla looks very town (starting the wagon and pushing it)
- VI looks very scummy (right after it's started, jumps off Plum and puts Zik at L-2)
- Zik hops on without reasoning (but ayyyy it's a counterwagon to his wagon)
- Lambda looks bad for a lot of reasons (not only not being on the wagon, but defending Cabd, and also fighting with singer right before singer ended up dead, though admittedly that's WIFOM) Lambda's hammer now looks really bad, considering a scum pairing of her/Cabd
- Nacho doesn't really look good or bad from things imo
- singersigner we know is town (we should all read her posts closely to find out why she was killed, really wasn't expecting that kill, was expecting Zik or Ranmaru)

Off the wagon
:

- Ranmaru is still on Zik (dumb, but is it scum, probably not)
- I still want Kagami dead, but I was also willing to lynch just about anyone and was going to switch when Lambda stole the hammer from me)
- Jazz looks quite a bit worse (not on the wagon, though she said she wants to vote him, and also said she's cool with the wagon)
- Kagami wasn't voting anybody according to the vote count (has made 52 posts over 12 days... without a vote)

Also, Quaroath (cabd)'s early "frustration/meh" vote on Jazzmyn reminds me of scumbuddy behavior/distancing/etc. (side note: Zik's post after it looks even townier now in hindsight)

-------

@Zik:

In post 1866, zakk wrote:Somebody explain town-plum to me
In post 1867, Metal Sonic wrote:I've played with plum before and she was leaning town for me. Kagami is hard town. I am trusting her. Leap of faith. Betting the game on her being town. Stuff like that.

This doesn't explain anything

In post 1866, zakk wrote:The reason why nobody was listening to your case is because you don't provide evidence to support your views. Even if she somehow was scum and Kagami isn't in this game, I don't think people will believe you much either. You and Ranmaru should hydra, because you guys cover each other's weaknessss €_€

There is evidence.
There is lots of evidence.

I only colored and repeated that one post because it was a good summary of her crimes, AND she dodged it and focused on the weakest point, trying to prove that wrong, AND THEN SHE REPLACED OUT AND PROVED IT RIGHT.

And then Cabd being on Plumgami's wagon during his death feels like super distancing from a scumbuddy (well, or trying to make me look scummy for pushing a town wagon so hard and setting up a future mislynch of me)

Those NOT down for the Master Zik lynch are far likelier town. (I'm in there, I'm town. Boom)
Those PUSHING for a Master Zik lynch, or the ones who were giving lip service to the Cabd lynch, without actually being on it, are where scum is to be found (e.g. VI, Jazzmyn) (I'm here too, but I'm town – I highly doubt Zik is scum, but I could have easily been like "yup, Zik's scum because *sheepy reasons* sooo vote: zik" with little to no consequences – but I didn't)

And it isn't because I'm trying to "be consistent" ... I think I've been anything but consistent this game tbh. Which is another thing that's annoying me. Which is another reason we needed a flip (and a scum flip is the best of all).

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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:17 pm

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I'm down for any of the four, I'll vote for whoever is the post popular.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:24 pm

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Oh, also I'm V/LA this weekend, as usual (small time window rn, didn't expect my post to be so long, but stuff kept coming! lol)

AND, I'll be on vacation for 5 days starting Wednesday, I'll only have my phone, and I'm probably not gonna post as much.
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:53 pm

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In post 2013, Ranmaru wrote:What was your reasoning for voting me?

I didn't vote for you. That was Sala/BBMolla.

In post 2013, Ranmaru wrote:What did you conclude from seeing my scum meta?

Nothing, because you appear to have only one completed scum game (a Newbie game at that) and you flaked on the only other scum game you had after only 14 posts.

In post 2013, Ranmaru wrote:Why did you make the Lady read up?

Because I wanted to see if she would bite on the "Jazz is useless town [undercurrent] so let's keep her alive for an easy lynch later [/undercurrent]" meme that Vi was pitching.

It seems she did. :)

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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:55 pm

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In post 1588, Jazzmyn wrote:
Vote: Plum/Ran


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Then what is this supposed to mean?
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:10 pm

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In post 2018, Ranmaru wrote:
In post 1588, Jazzmyn wrote:
Vote: Plum/Ran

Then what is this supposed to mean?

That is me mixing up who replaced who, apparently. (With 8 players having replaced out, I will forgive myself for that lapse.)

But this is strange:
In post 2011, Ranmaru wrote:Her introduction post is a bit of a disconnect from her vote on Plum/Me yesterday.

I mean, shouldn't
you
, of all people, be cognizant of who you replaced?

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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:20 pm

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Vote: Jazzmyn
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.

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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:23 pm

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Reaching so hard, she's like Michael Jordan in Space Jam.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.

13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:28 pm

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I have a restriction, new on Day 3, that says I can't vote first or last on a wagon (unless and until it's 3 person lylo) so I can't start a wagon at the moment. Otherwise, I'd be voting for Lady or Ranmaru at present.

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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:32 pm

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In post 2022, Jazzmyn wrote:I have a restriction, new on Day 3, that says I can't vote first or last on a wagon (unless and until it's 3 person lylo) so I can't start a wagon at the moment. Otherwise, I'd be voting for Lady or Ranmaru at present.

Regards,
Jazz


Thank you for this defensive post attempting to absolve yourself of something. It doesn't appear that you're more concerned with how people perceive you than finding scum at all, not even a little!

Can we please lynch this?
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.

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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:51 pm

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\o/

now I actually have to find the rest of the team though

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