Mini 1698: MDCXCVIII [C'est fini!]

[Sméagol]

Mod

: can we get a full flip for Bulb (i.e., what 'watcher variant' means)?

Here, enjoy:

Spoiler: Watcher (variant) role PM

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Passive: You may speak with your allies at the following link:

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Active: Kill target player. Only one mafia member may perform this action each night.

Passive: When you're performing the mafia kill, you will be informed of other players having the same target.

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You win when nothing can prevent the mafia from eliminating all other players not aligned to mafia.

[Persivul]

D1. I vote bulb first, park my vote there, he gets lynched

Even if he flips town that's not necessarily a bad thing. He's a distraction. Scum would probably like to keep him around.

[Persivul]

Hold it, you voted him, he flipped scum, and they're saying you bussed him?

[dragonspawn]

Iso bulb. I wouldn't be at all shocked if his partners bussed him.

[Persivul]

OK. In my experience town bulb is clueless and all over the place, while scum bulb is more focused, because he already knows the answers. I'll look at it.

[Kublai Khan]

Bulbazoor already flipped scum

[TheDominator37]

VOTE: ray i can get some reads from this lynch

Dom stop ignoring me.

I'm not I'm actually pay close attention to uou

[Sméagol]

Your daily vote count (no netto changes)

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GrayFoxxxx [

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spicer1209

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Boonskiies

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dragonspawn

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TheDominator37

pisskop [

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implosion

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Annarchy

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pisskop

Kublai Khan [

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GrayFoxxxx

Abstaining [2]

: Kublai Khan / Persivul

There are 10 active players.
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Spoiler: Current player list

[01] Bulbazoor -

Mafia

- watcher (variant) - lynched day 1

[02] dragonspawn
[03] GrayFoxxxx

[04] FA_Q2 -

Town

- role cop - killed night 1

[05] implosion
[06] Boonskiies
[07] spicer1209

[08] Shazam -

Town

- vanilla - killed night 1

[09] pisskop
[10] Annarchy
[11] TheDominator37
[12] Kublai Khan
[13] Persivul

Black denotes active players.

Grey denotes dead players.

(

V/LA

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Deadline is

09-08-2015 00:00 CEST

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(expired on 2015-08-09 00:00:00)

[dragonspawn]

Will be gone sunday

[Sméagol]

Noted.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Hold it, you voted him, he flipped scum, and they're saying you bussed him?

You got it.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Spoiler:

Although a foxx lynch would be very informative I elude like to stay away from doing that. Like I said before I am more comfortable with a KK spicer or implosion lynch

VOTE: gray
Just ISOed main points is he never really had any substantial reads, constantly went with the flow, and soft read bulb and is pushing for a KK lynch

1.My read on bulb was correct. He acted more and more scummy after that. Youre being vague.

6 posts ago I was youre 2nd best town read.

2.Went with the flow? I derailed the wagon on YOUR slot . I went through every vote on the slot, and gave a counter. Going with the flow is opposite of what I did. Me and Boon even debated it. You are wrong here.

3. The biggest WTF. Your scum reading me for voting KK, AFTER WE AGREED ON IT. How can you use that as scum evidence?

It could be a toss up between Boon, and Dom as KKs scum buddy. This is the worst read on me yet. His claims aren't even possibly true. Look for your self.

Also rereading the end of D1, Dom looked really bad in hindsight.

Dom bussing Bulb makes alot more sense than me Bussing bulb, that's for sure.

@Dom

You are ignoring this. Please address points 1-3

[GrayFoxxxx]

For the THIRD TIME, I am asking you.

[TheDominator37]

Gray
1. No your being vague O_o
2. Kissing up trying to get my vote off you? I don't think so.
3. It was the way you pushed the wagon. I noticed I was being to gullible when I listened to you.

[Persivul]

Is that VC right? Grayfox is voting himself and KK.

[dragonspawn]

No. That's supposed to be boon

[Sméagol]

Yeah that's retared, sorry. I corrected it last time in the actual vote count, but forgot to correct it in the text file I use update the vote count.
(but everything else is correct, you can click the links)

[GrayFoxxxx]

Gray
1. No your being vague O_o
2. Kissing up trying to get my vote off you? I don't think so.
3. It was the way you pushed the wagon. I noticed I was being to gullible when I listened to you.

So you voted me, because you're gullible?

Kissing up? I didnt know you felt that way about me *blush*

[Boonskiies]

Sorry about my lack of posting today. Was unable to get a good amount of internet time.

[Persivul]

VOTE: spicer1209

[spicer1209]

VOTE: spicer1209

No explanation? Just a vote?

[spicer1209]

ALso @Mod ill be V/LA from monday through friday as ill be in the wilderness camping

[Persivul]

Scum was lynched D1. It seems likely that scum can be found in people:

- who were NOT on the scum D1 wagon, and
- who ARE on the main D2 wagon.

Those people are spicer and boon. Looking at spicer's ISO:

863 - two days in, says woody is town

1089 - the next post, 4 days later, says pisskop is town

1098 - quoting Annarchy saying "I actually get a town read out of spicer's 1089," spicer says, "What about it gave you a town read?" Seriously? Why would town ask that?

1099 - buddying with KK and trying to preempt my point above, that there's gonna be scum in the people who weren't on the scum lynch.

1115 - 1192 tunneling grayfox

1193 - more buddying with KK

1272 - 8 days in he finally makes a vote. I'm beginning to take lack of voting as a scumtell, I suppose to keep their names out of VCs since those get used more later in the game.

1275 - I hate this. Dom says he doesn't like the fox vote because "It seems you are voting for something weird not something scummy." spicer then asks, "well what do you not like about it?" He just told you what he doesn't like about it. This is a tactic to give an appearance of having addressed a point without actually addressing it.

1438 - Reads list with grayfox as third scummiest, after imp and dom. A couple problems:

1. Where do the imp and dom scum reads come from? You've mostly been attacking gray and kissing kk's ass so far.

2. There's a good chance this is a 10:3 setup with a vig, which would mean their are 2 scum left. You have 2 people scummier than gray and a week left in phase. You should have changed your vote to one of them, or put pressure on some other way. This reads list comes across as town who realizes he's been tunneling one guy and needs to do something to appear like he's really considering the entire field.

Finally, spicer's predecessor's ISO is horrible.

18 - too eager in RVS

70 - finds the idea of multiple suspects on D1 strange and votes mario for it

73 - backs off - "However, I am not necessarily opposed to having multiple suspects at a time."

134 - more awkward backpedaling

167 - And even more - "You know what, I think you're right. I was trying to justify my vote on MarioManiac4 and I am finding it difficult to explain why I found him suspicious." Wow, I'm surprised this didn't get more attention.

[Persivul]

EBWOP - This reads list comes across as

town

scum who realizes he's been tunneling one guy...

[Persivul]

Read Annarchy's ISO. Lean town, but disagree with a number of her reads. I thought she was spot on earlier in the game but now may be overthinking things.