Mini 1706 - Pula Mafia (over)

[superbowl9]

Oh I'm dumb
Sry

[Atum]

VOTE: Malakittens

This is why I wanted to run you up Mala.

[superbowl9]

VOTE: Malakittens

This is why I wanted to run you up Mala.

What's the reasoning behind this again? Are you saying you had the same reasoning the first time you said this?

[Atum]

I think Mala could be scum, and want others to join my glorious quest for the legendary win. And yes, that's my reasoning with just about every vote.

Would you like to know more?

[superbowl9]

Why yes I would

[catboi]

VOTE: Malakittens
No
This is why I wanted to run you up Mala.

VOTE: elusive

Yeah, on board with this. Some examples of awful interactions:

Grey and scorpy persons of interest and lalendra. Also I never thought nj could make a dream about zombies worse but zombie necrophilia yep much worse of it was made.

"persons of interst" is about as much of a vague nondescriptor as you can come up with. What makes someone interesting, and why? What does being a person of interest even mean?

I found Scorpy to be a little iffy and I'm tired of noob AtE. However, Bella and others voting him what distinguishes Scorpy's ISO from Gray's? Regardless of how sarcasm is wasted on Gray.

Attempting to deflect attention toward gray away from Scorp.

I'd love for the people who analyzed the miller claim as being town side to comment on Scorpy's claim.

Calling on others to give opinions, notably avoids giving a take of their own with regard to Scorp's claim.

Yeah but one claimed wo any good reason. No pressure, so idk. I have to think, I panicked at thinking deadline was close but we're okay for two days.

Scorpy's role needs to be looked at but can also be checked.

This is a distinct hedge - they avoid directly attacking the claim but still argue he should be left alive, it avoids taking a definitive stance.

Scorpy, Grib seemed to replace across games. So, I wouldn't pull that, k? How can a person be so scummy? Idk. How? I guess anything is possible.

Scorpy, paraphrase your claim again for me thanks.

Actually have no idea why they ask him to paraphrase his claim, comes off as the softest interrogation possible and I don't see a purpose to doing so. If they were asking questions to clarify/possibly see if he contradicts himself I'd get it, but this just feels useless. Like an attempt to...I don't know, force some kind of interaction where there really hasn't been much.

So from ISOing Scorpy in that game on day one he is : defensive, prickly but also logical and good at picking out inconsistencies and mis-logic. In this game he's still defensive, prickly but not as aggressive in pointing at scum. Is that scummy? It could be but it could also be that he's a PR and some people (like Mala for example) play PRs by being less aggressive and more lurkery in the hope they won't get NKed. Obviously, it leads to them hitting some town's scum radars and hard to tell if its scum just lurking or a town PR being nervous.

Scorpy isn't a noob from his other game but he doesn't know the MS lingo, so sorry about that. AtE means Appeal to Emotions. A tactic that scum or town might use and which in particular grates on my nerves.

Oh Scorpy, I like your town attitude. Very lovely, teaching those passive aggressive fruit loops to shove it.

This is where I'm at:
VOTE: GrayFoxxxxx

and again finally, a MASSIVE hedge of a statement that boils down to "scorpious could be scum but he also could be a PR because he's lurky so let's just lynch someone else." It's a thorough non-analysis that uses plenty of words to say nothing at all really, trying to deflect attention from Scorp without outright defending him. The push on to gray is bad, too - really their case on him had amounted to "his ISO is bad" due mainly to low content posting but it's never really justified beyond that. Just a weak push that involves calling attention to things and hoping others see it as scummy rather than assembling any real points as to why there's actually anything wrong with gray's posting. With benefit of hindsight it very much looks like going after low hanging fruit.

VOTE: elusive

[catboi]

mafia edit: ughhhh I broke the tags there, meant to post the "no" after, like this:

VOTE: Malakittens

This is why I wanted to run you up Mala.

No

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I am not on board with running up mala, please do not be misled

[elusive]

I'm town. I think you're purposefully ignoring my content. I also find it convenient that no fucktard has thought it might be important to look at Scorpius's interaction. Nor has any actually town doofus seen my scum games on this site and realized that if Scorpy was my scum partner I would bus the daylights out of him.

So yeah. Bored by playstyles of the less than worthy. Among other unsavory things I could say but won't because apparently.

[Radja]

Nah... Mala is town

[elusive]

lalendra, selectively quoting my iso is remarkable

[elusive]

remarkable = repulsive

[elusive]

superbowl, why is your vote on me at all? What mind blowing case did Mala make at that point? Interesting.

[Radja]

I think Mala could be scum, and want others to join my glorious quest for the legendary win. And yes, that's my reasoning with just about every vote.

Would you like to know more?

I could use some reasoning for this?

[Loranthaceae]

(expired on 2015-08-30 00:00:00) (August 30^th)

Spoiler: source code

VC#2.01

superbowl9 (0)

Banakai (0)

Malakittens*(1)

Atum

Radja (0)

elusive (3)

Malakittens, superbowl9, catboi

Bellaphant (0)

catboi (0)

Lalendra (0)

Maxous (0)

Atum*(0)

Not Voting

- Banakai, Radja, elusive, Bellaphant, Lalendra, Maxous

#386-#412: 03-06 01-06 13-03 09-06

*=prod

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

[Maxous]

So yeah. Bored by playstyles of the less than worthy.

this is ridiculous

she diverted away from the scum PR lynch onto a mislynch

this just screams fake

vote: elusive

[Lalendra]

lalendra, selectively quoting my iso is remarkable

Wait what? When did I do that?

[Lalendra]

well tbh i don't exactly like the fact we are risking lynching a pr that's a variant of a doc and a cop in one shot.

i mean feel free to strongarm my lynch D2 if he flips scum, but i'm sure as hell not going to support that lynch

I'm feeling Mala over elusive, for this and other reasons. Someone convince me otherwise.

[Radja]

Being wrong doesn't mean you're scum.
Mala was only trying to protect a possible PR. I don't see why that is scummy at all.

[superbowl9]

Being wrong doesn't mean you're scum.
Mala was only trying to protect a possible PR. I don't see why that is scummy at all.

I actually totally agree with this

Yesterday I was very skeptical of grib/shaddow's soft because I'd been played by scum in that exact situation before in epicmafia (cue groans/flaming). I didn't want to comment on it, however, because I felt it would be anti-town to do so, so I kept my mouth shut so as not to out town prs.

Turns out I was wrong, though, but, as radj says, wrong=/=scum.

[elusive]

So, I thought Scorpy was suspicious for a while and then defended him post him making a claim for the same reason and yet you're voting me? Ok,superbowl9 and Maxous. {Redacted}

Sorry, Lalendra I meant catboi there.

I was right about Grib. Right about Scorpy until the doc claim threw me off as explained due to being in a game with a moronic town that lynched the doc.

Anyway, superbowl9 you haven't answered my question and that's {redacted}.

[Bellaphant]

Right, so, Scorpy's interactions are under the cut. What's interesting is the lack of flexibility in his reads, and the people he's not really interacting with.

Spoiler:

All credit to Plot, who's number system I've stolen (and abused)

Bella: + 9 -184

Catboi: v 6, -42 -58 -139 uv 175 v- 182 =189 -195 -330 v-371

Grib: +20 +110 -139 =-203 -272 v-302 -315

Lel: -20 =110 -141 -186 -239 -372

Bank: + 27 +58 =261

Elu: + 37 -139 +154 =-193 =313 =315 +330

Max: = 42 -166 -205

Grey: = 110 =+187 =-195

mala: = 187 -368

Atum: =+187 -188 -330 -377 This 377 is weird, I don't understand the apology

Super: = 189

Radja: = 203

[Lalendra]

I have no idea how to read that. What are you trying to say?

[Lalendra]

Being wrong doesn't mean you're scum.
Mala was only trying to protect a possible PR. I don't see why that is scummy at all.

It wasn't just that. It was a combination of that, soft-pushing wagons away from scorp, 370 reading very much like a bus, her pushing me and catboi while continually defending scorp, and the weird elusive vote without any explanation besides "interactions and stuff", as well as the post I quoted above. My scum reads previously were scorp, gray and Mala, in descending order of confidence; I was right about scorp, wrong about gray, and on the fence about Mala.

[superbowl9]

superbowl, why is your vote on me at all? What mind blowing case did Mala make at that point? Interesting.

Because I trust mala.

[elusive]

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and I don't know why you play mafia.

I've played with Mala and accurate reads have rarely been her strong suit.