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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:31 pm

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In post 2073, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think your AtE worked on me.

I have seen that phrase thrown around, and I still have yet to actually look it up or care what it means.

Anyways, get on AERO. I am not getting lynched today browski.

Your one vote is useless atm.
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:36 pm

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Hey fire, specifically why should BBT vote for me?
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:42 pm

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In post 2076, Aeronaut wrote:Hey fire, specifically why should BBT vote for me?

I am just a horrible sheep.
IGNORE ME!
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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:44 pm

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Honestly Aero you are mostly Null to me, but this seems like a good wagon to be on atm compared to any other.

And yes, I am willing to lynch Nulls. Because screw players I can't get any reads on.
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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:51 pm

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Who else do you have reads on?
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:51 pm

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In post 2079, Aeronaut wrote:Who else do you have reads on?

Titus and Gamr I am confident are town.
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:54 pm

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Ok, do you have scumreads?
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:58 pm

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In post 2081, Aeronaut wrote:Ok, do you have scumreads?

If I did, don't you think I would pursuing them instead of someone I claimed as Null?
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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:16 pm

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In post 2082, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2081, Aeronaut wrote:Ok, do you have scumreads?

If I did, don't you think I would pursuing them instead of someone I claimed as Null?


Why would having scumreads stop you from doing that?
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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:18 pm

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Can someone explain the case on fire bringer to me please?
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:22 pm

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duppin has not picked up his prod. Seeking replacement for duppin.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:37 pm

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What's your read on me Titus, and why?
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:43 pm

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In post 2086, Kitty Galore wrote:What's your read on me Titus, and why?

Kitty please tell me why you scum read me before today it will give me some incite into your character.
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:52 pm

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Ok, I will when I have time tomorrow Garmr. RL tomorrow. I'm at work atm.
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:09 pm

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That is chill I can focus on what the fire wagon is about
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:16 pm

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In post 2086, Kitty Galore wrote:What's your read on me Titus, and why?


Scum. You have been just throwing mud around at people easy to lynch (which is true of me as town) and people who will not be lynched bc obvtown (Garmr). You still say "my entrance was shit" after being proven wrong on that.
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:47 pm

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@Garmr/everyone else


Ok, this is something BBT said about fire yesterday and it made a lot of sense to me.

In post 1495, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 1410, Firebringer wrote:
VOTE: davesaz

Null on Gamr

Obvious bussing. Even gives himself a reason to jump off by 'looking into them both more later'. He had already done a 'bit of reading' and decided Dave was a good vote.

In post 1419, Firebringer wrote:
I vote Dave cause gamr wasn't pinging scum to me so went for next best thing

Making his vote look weak so he can easily backtrack from it.

In post 1421, Firebringer wrote:Hmmm UNVOTE: davesaz

This wagon isn't that good either.
I am getting town from davesaz most.

While gamr is more active most of his content is well lackluster. I don't think it is really coming from scum though.

I don't really like either of these tbh.
Feels like two wagons on town.

Now he is getting town from Dave? Where did this come from? Unfortunately, Fire was so generic and vague about his reads that it's hard to criticize them. It does show a very clear lack of read progression though.

In post 1433, Firebringer wrote:I guess gamr is a better wagon, but idk.
Don't really trust it.

Looking to hop on Garmr if presented with the opportunity of just Garmr or Dave.

In post 1456, Firebringer wrote:I don't know who to vote!!!!

Someone give me compelling case in either.
This is frustrating neither appear scummy.

Acting like nobody had provided reasons for either Dave or Garmr being scum.

Can we speed lynch this?


The thing that really seems off to me about it is this post where he literally goes from voting Davesaz, to saying he's his strongest townread in the form of "I'm getting town from davesaz the most".

In addition to being really weird about the dave wagon, here was his reason for joining dragonspawn/ronit

In post 1752, Firebringer wrote:ronit behavior is scummy and we lynch all liars in my town!
VOTE: Ronit


Today he's been pushing me all day. So have a few people, whatever, but then now he's saying that i'm just a null read. When asked if he
had
scum reads, he says no. I just feel like it's strange now two weeks after replacing into this game he just doesn't have scum reads.

If you look through his entire ISO, not once does he call
anyone
remotely scummy except for Ronit. I suppose he called Titus's vote opportunistic one time, but she's now in his town reads so I suppose it just doesn't matter to him. Instead of pushing people and taking stances, he simply states his town reads and just jumps on whatever wagon he sees fit.

These posts especially make me feel like he's just trying to push
some wagon
in order to get to night.

Spoiler: Fire pushing wagons over people
In post 1421, Firebringer wrote:Hmmm UNVOTE: davesaz

This wagon isn't that good either.
I am getting town from davesaz most.

While gamr is more active most of his content is well lackluster. I don't think it is really coming from scum though.

I don't really like either of these tbh.
Feels like two wagons on town.

In post 1429, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1426, Titus wrote:@Firebringer, who do you want to wagon?

@Kitty, As I told you, I drunk post a fair amount. It's not an excuse. You going back there after my explanation isn't cool. Scum frequently play dumb. Brian skies in Battlestar would reask questions I literally just answered to create the impression I was ignoring the game. I also mentioned that I'm never a wallflower, which everyone here agrees with. So the fact you think I was somehow plotting have a lack of commitment to scum hunting is asinine.

I looked at dragon, he read as confident town to me.

Strong town read than Gamr gave.

I don't know who to wagon, give me suggestions and I'll take a look to see if I agree.

In post 1433, Firebringer wrote:I guess gamr is a better wagon, but idk.
Don't really trust it.

In post 1458, Firebringer wrote:Which train should I Join.

I am so indecisive this is not like me.

In post 1707, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Shazam
I don't mind this wagon for now.

In post 1915, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1911, Boonskiies wrote:VOTE: St Const

For two reasons:

1: I see him as scum. Something just sits weird with me for him.

2: I want to see Titus' reaction towards me; I have been seriously inactive, and Titus has only slightly pushed for me a couple days ago I believe, so it's slightly suspicious to me. I have to figure out if I think that makes her town or scum.

I can probably tell you, with one vote their isn't going to be a reaction. At least if it was me. We need a train on him to get reactions!

In post 1939, Firebringer wrote:Can we get a VC here?

EVERYONE PUSH FOR AERONAUT! BELIEVE IN THE WAGON

In post 2072, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2051, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:OK, so I just looked back and I have no idea why I stopped voting Fire...

VOTE: Fire

YAY VOTES FOR ME!
That means I am popular, right?

I think you unvoted me cause you realized I am town?
I don't remember if you made a case on me. Don't care.
GET ON AERO!

In post 2078, Firebringer wrote:Honestly Aero you are mostly Null to me, but this seems like a good wagon to be on atm compared to any other.

And yes, I am willing to lynch Nulls. Because screw players I can't get any reads on.


More often than not he's either saying "Oh bother I just don't know
what
to do!" or "Hmm which wagon suits me best", and it just looks to me like he's actively avoiding taking any sort of major stance on anything. He's even pushing for my lynch without committing to saying I'm scum. He's just trying to cover himself for tomorrow.
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:52 pm

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I mean honestly thats a pretty good case on me.
But you really think scum would be that obvious with their indifference or not able to a stance on anything?

Like I get that I am "flaky" with all my reads and not "committing" to anything extremely.
I just don't see how that makes me obvious scum, if anything it just makes me bad town.
Which I don't really disagree with.

I really did think dave was town at the time of the lynch, I thought Gamr was a better lynch over him. Then I looked deeper in and thought it was a TvT, then couldn't decide who would be better.

So yeah, pretty decent case on me.

I almost think its too easy to push a case on me lol. You know? Like I am obviously a good mislynch with how bad I am playing.
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:04 pm

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VOTE: firebringer
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:14 pm

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Alright, let's get this wagon rolling.

If people don't want to vote for Fire, they should say why and present a better choice.
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:34 pm

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I still want kittys answer through so be nice if no one hammers before then.
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:20 am

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@Firebringer,

What do you think about Kitty?
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:10 am

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In post 2093, Garmr wrote:VOTE: firebringer

I still love you Garmr, and think you are town <3
In post 2094, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alright, let's get this wagon rolling.

If people don't want to vote for Fire, they should say why and present a better choice.

I don't want to vote fire, because I read his role card and it told me he was town.
That good enough?
In post 2096, duppin wrote:@Firebringer,

What do you think about Kitty?

I will ISO Kitty later, I have no strong opinions on Kitty right now.
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:13 am

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duppin can stay since he has repsonded t the prod
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:26 am

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Duppin, thoughts on Fire?
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