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Bacde · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:58 am

Good morning guys

Bacde · Post Post #18 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:32 am

In post 13, Liger_Zero wrote:Hello everyone,
I looked through posts so far and noticed Bacde had first post yet no vote.
That is pretty suspicious if you ask me.
VOTE: Bacde

Why is it suspicious?

What makes not voting seems like something mafia is more likely to do than town?

Bacde · Post Post #26 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:42 am

In post 20, BananaCucho wrote:Hmmmm

VOTE: Barcode

He's already playing differently than the one game I played with him and I wanna know why. Can't really base meta off of one game but I'm curious where this is headed.

You can't accurately determine how I play since in the last game you were mafia and you weren't reading me to find scum

Bacde · Post Post #27 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:43 am

In post 19, KaiserB wrote:
In post 18, Bacde wrote:
In post 13, Liger_Zero wrote:Hello everyone,
I looked through posts so far and noticed Bacde had first post yet no vote.
That is pretty suspicious if you ask me.
VOTE: Bacde

Why is it suspicious?

What makes not voting seems like something mafia is more likely to do than town?

You're not participating in RVS, which means that it's harder for people to get a read on you since you aren't really interacting with people.

Does it really seem to you like I'm not interacting with people?

Bacde · Post Post #39 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:55 pm

Besides not claiming a quicktopic I don't really understand how my play is significantly different

Bacde · Post Post #45 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:35 am

Pretty suspicious that you've been scum before Banana...

Bacde · Post Post #47 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:08 am

I don't know what you're talking about, pal

Bacde · Post Post #64 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:50 am

Banana you should unvote me since you pretty clearly dont think i am scum

Bacde · Post Post #71 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:54 am

I don't feel pressured

So far I have 0 scum reads and haven't seen anything interesting to me this game yet

Bacde · Post Post #73 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:56 am

What's interesting to me Banana is how you are going about trying to read me (eg, you are going about it very poorly)

You say I'm acting different this game, which I denied

You just accept me denying what you asserted? Why not try to explain your read somehow or confront me with evidence of how I am being different?

Bacde · Post Post #74 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:57 am

FYI more votes isn't going to get me to act differently. You clearly haven't read any of my past games or even tried to understand my meta.

Which is why your vote is so poor since its entirely a meta vote based on 1 game in which you weren't even trying to read me anyway since you were scum

Bacde · Post Post #77 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:02 am

Its not going to go anywhere fyi

Last game we lost since town was fighting me hard as hell

We lost because when I said for all of town to unvote because we were being blitzed, some town members did not unvote

I am a powerful player banana, watch out when you play with fire

I haven't even stoked my flame yet Banana, you clearly don't even remember the beginning of our 1 game together in which my play was pretty much similar, why not go back and read how I began our last game together?

Bacde · Post Post #88 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:48 am

In post 84, Liger_Zero wrote:Comments on game so far:
Kyubey The Kid-Post 15, Switches his vote to KaiserB because KasierB switched his vote. The irony.
KasierB-In 19, Brings up the point that Bacde wasn’t participating in RVS. Then continues past RVS again with a semi-random vote in 35. I am leaning scum on Kyubey, or anti town at least.
BananaCucho: Brings up past meta to support vote, You can’t really judge a meta from one game though. I like how interactive and open BananaCucho is being in this game, I might analyze the game that was mentioned to see if like this as mafia though. Leaning on Town.
EVvenomous-Subtly defending Bacde in 21. Could be buddying, but I doubt it this early almost.
Bacde-Makes an extremely false statement in post 26. Even if you were different alignments players still pick up on behavior and style. Okay 45 is also incredibly bad, unless that was a bad joke.
TheWorst- The joke in 36 was awful. 49 was kind of bad too, Null.
ConManMIck-I actually laughed at 37. Post 43 is terribad though, like you are forcing that almost. Well 46 officially makes ConManMick the likely town buffoon. You need one every game. Null-Scum.
Guyett-Post 50 like dude, read the game.

Page three is almost completely a troll page. Nothing really to read from.

45 is pretty obviously a joke lmao

dude you gotta use your brain before you start demanding votes more imo

Bacde · Post Post #98 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:36 am

In post 95, Kyubey The Kid wrote:
In post 94, BananaCucho wrote:
Still looking for some pressure on the tomato

I think you're tunneling into him a bit too early, but I do find it strange he hasn't addressed my post on him yet...

which post?

Bacde · Post Post #99 (isolation #14) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:38 am

In post 97, Aneninen wrote:
In post 65, Kyubey The Kid wrote:Oh shit I didn't see it said 3:1:9. I've never even played this format before. Can anyone tell me how this usually changes the game?

Prepare for a hard run. Town may be packed with PRs. The SK might be Bulletproof or something nasty. The Mafia might have something against the SK. But that's sheer guessing.

In post 82, duppin wrote:
In post 40, BananaCucho wrote:I want to see what Dupoin thinks.

Hm, I think it is a bit too early to call it out, but I do agree that it does seem a bit different.
His day 1 was pretty weird in the last game (very aggro), but it is possible he would've done the same thing this game if he wasn't called out so early.
But overall yes, his play does seem different, not entirely sure it is a scumtell though.

In post 73, Bacde wrote:What's interesting to me Banana is how you are going about trying to read me (eg, you are going about it very poorly)
You say I'm acting different this game, which I denied
You just accept me denying what you asserted? Why not try to explain your read somehow or confront me with evidence of how I am being different?

You said you have no scum reads at the moment, but I feel like you are implying Banana is scummy here. Is this the case?

I can see a world Bacde's scum in and Duppin is his partner. The first part of this post sounds like a scum talking to his buddy while the next one looks like giving some advice.
If
Bacde is scum.
If
there's no Daytalk. Too many assumptions.

Liger_Zero may be town if at least one of the very active players is scum. If not, he might be scum.

Bacde may be a nervous scum.

I don't think you looked at my postcount if you actually think I am nervous scum

Bacde · Post Post #101 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:40 am

vote everydaymuffin

Bacde · Post Post #104 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:25 pm

I'm not asking for people to not listen to me, I'm asking people to not vote me.

I'm surprised Cavane is accusing me of being aggro, since I thought other people were accusing me of being defensive. Maybe this wagon is stupid and just hiding the scum who can hop on it with bad reasoning?

Bacde · Post Post #105 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:32 pm

I feel very strongly that 1 of Cavane or everydaymuffin is mafia

Bacde · Post Post #113 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:31 pm

In post 110, Cavane wrote:Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. I'd still like to hear what Bacde has to say in response to your (now repeated) question for him.

? I already responded

Bacde · Post Post #132 (isolation #19) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:44 am

I forgot we have a confirmed third party in the game that's why I said mafia instead of scum. They are pretty much interchangeable words to me.

Why is muffin asking me if he missed something while simultaneously saying he hasn't read the game at all? It's like no duh you missed stuff

Bacde · Post Post #146 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:15 am

vote kaiserB

Omgus plus he's scum

Bacde · Post Post #147 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:33 am

In post 141, KaiserB wrote:
I'm okay keeping my vote on Bacde. He hasn't explained at all why he thinks Muffin is scum but he apparently feels "very strongly" about it.
Not sure about town, I'll need to read this more thoroughly when I have a bit more time

Kaiser is summarizing my play this game and then making a leap to say my play has been scummy without reasoning through why he thinks those things. No where does he even attempt a thought process, he's just hoping other people will see this summary with lack of analysis as scummy. Not using reasoning is something scum does since they are just acting and not trying to find scum.

People better wagon KaiserB for this, if no one follows me on this in going back to my never-explaining-my-vote ways

Bacde · Post Post #148 (isolation #22) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:35 am

In post 125, Aneninen wrote:
In post 99, Bacde wrote:I don't think you looked at my postcount if you actually think I am nervous scum

What the pigeon poop your post count has to do with being nervous or scummy?

I'm politely letting you know that you are an imbecile if you think I'm nervous as scum since I'm not inexperienced

Are you actually trying to find scum or are you just trying to justify your incorrect read on me?

Bacde · Post Post #152 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:19 am

I'm talking about previous games, don't worry about it Cavane

Bacde · Post Post #163 (isolation #24) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:36 am

In post 154, EVvenomous wrote:
In post 152, Bacde wrote:I'm talking about previous games, don't worry about it Cavane

Blatant dodging of a push/question here annoyed me and is kinda scummu , is it not?
For now
VOTE: Bacde

What the fuck is wrong with you? I explained myself to the question regarding the push, and even stated it was a previous game. I didn't dodge shit. I was literally referring to the

last game I was in on this website

, which you clearly didn't even attempt to deduce which could have been done easily by reviewing my past games.

Plus you aren't even sure if your vote on me is a hammer?! What an idiot

If the people voting me can't even agree if I'm aggro or defensive, or are voting me for dodging questions I'm directly answering, then fuck off. I'm not claiming. Hammer me if you really suck that bad at mafia and are willing to be lynched tomorrow when everyone gets pissed at you for hammering me, an essential powerful member of the town.

Forgive me for being frustrated with this piece of shit town. I'd refer you to a game I was in recently where I flipped town d1 but its ongoing. At least banana has his head outside his ass

Bacde · Post Post #164 (isolation #25) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:37 am

In post 152, Bacde wrote:I'm talking about previous games, don't worry about it Cavane

This post

is an explanation, not a dodge

Bacde · Post Post #165 (isolation #26) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:38 am

In post 153, Kyubey The Kid wrote:
In post 147, Bacde wrote:
In post 141, KaiserB wrote:
I'm okay keeping my vote on Bacde. He hasn't explained at all why he thinks Muffin is scum but he apparently feels "very strongly" about it.
Not sure about town, I'll need to read this more thoroughly when I have a bit more time

Kaiser is summarizing my play this game and then making a leap to say my play has been scummy without reasoning through why he thinks those things. No where does he even attempt a thought process, he's just hoping other people will see this summary with lack of analysis as scummy. Not using reasoning is something scum does since they are just acting and not trying to find scum.

People better wagon KaiserB for this, if no one follows me on this in going back to my never-explaining-my-vote ways

Bacde's been dodging explaining his everydaymuffin vote but doesn't have a problem doing it when accusing someone new. I'm starting to think he's scum.

VOTE: Bacde

Lmao why is explaining one vote but not another necessarily scummy?

Hint:it isn't and you should listen to me and vote kaiser since I'm better at this game than you are

Bacde · Post Post #167 (isolation #27) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:15 am

So I see a lot of players in this game have the word "Townie" or "Goon" underneath their screenname. That's fine. That also means you are very new at mafia. So I'm going to try not to get mad at what I'm seeing here as really lazy play.

Back in my day when I was learning how to play mafia I remember giving a lot of weight to the posts made by players more experienced than me. This doesn't seem to be the case anymore, as I have a lot of new players who seem to think they can catch me when I'm mafia (hint: you can't and I'm town). Just for your benefit, I'm going to make a quick cheat sheet of things to look out for and things that I think have been confusing players in this game.

Things that Tend to Come from Scum

-No use of reasoning whatsoever
-Inconsistent or contradictory reasoning
-Behavior or vote pattern does not follow stated reasoning
-Consistently only votes town
-Lies
-Does not look for scum
-Emphasizes the importance of always explaining reasoning (I know this will be controversial but its true)
-Tends to be less visible of a player (can be due to lurking)

Things that can come from either Scum or Town

-Plays differently than you expect from a Town member
-Hypocritical
-Posts a lot
-Doesn't explain self fully
-Tries to rile up town

Things that tend to come from Town

-aggressive
-constantly changing vote
-bombastic
-confident
-proud of play
-(funny) jokes

See if you learn anything from this post, now I gotta really lay into EV

Bacde · Post Post #168 (isolation #28) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:19 am

In post 154, EVvenomous wrote:
In post 152, Bacde wrote:I'm talking about previous games, don't worry about it Cavane

Blatant dodging of a push/question here annoyed me and is kinda scummu , is it not?
For now
VOTE: Bacde

Ok, you are new to this game so I feel responsible for helping you to become a player who doesn't piss me off.

Your vote on me was LAZY as hell, and an example of REALLY poor play for a couple of reasons. First of all, you are accusing me of dodging a question with a quote that is me directly answering the stated question. But lets say you got confused and thought that my answer wasn't sufficient to the question. Why not ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS TO SATISFY YOUR SCUMHUNT????

Ask me: What previous game are you talking about? Why didn't you mention what game you are talking about? Do you have a link to that game?

Also, WHY DID YOU VOTE ME BEFORE REALIZING HOW MANY VOTES IT TAKES TO HAMMER?

WHY DID YOU NOT IMMEDIATELY UNVOTE ME WHEN YOU GOT EXTREMELY NERVOUS THAT I WAS HAMMERED?

I can tell you are very new, but you should unvote me right now if you really get that nervous and anxious at the thought of me being hammered, since I'm only 1 vote away.

Bacde · Post Post #169 (isolation #29) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:21 am

In post 153, Kyubey The Kid wrote:
In post 147, Bacde wrote:
In post 141, KaiserB wrote:
I'm okay keeping my vote on Bacde. He hasn't explained at all why he thinks Muffin is scum but he apparently feels "very strongly" about it.
Not sure about town, I'll need to read this more thoroughly when I have a bit more time

Kaiser is summarizing my play this game and then making a leap to say my play has been scummy without reasoning through why he thinks those things. No where does he even attempt a thought process, he's just hoping other people will see this summary with lack of analysis as scummy. Not using reasoning is something scum does since they are just acting and not trying to find scum.

People better wagon KaiserB for this, if no one follows me on this in going back to my never-explaining-my-vote ways

Bacde's been dodging explaining his everydaymuffin vote but doesn't have a problem doing it when accusing someone new. I'm starting to think he's scum.

VOTE: Bacde

How exactly did I dodge explaining my everydaymuffin vote? I don't recall anyone even asking me about my reasoning for that vote. What was there to dodge?

Why are you accusing me of things that are fake??? Why did you say I'm DODGING?? YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK SCUMMY BY USING WORDS THAT MEAN THINGS YOU AREN'T TRYING TO SAY

I NEVER EXPLAINED MY REASONING FOR VOTING EVERYDAYMUFFIN, AND IM NOT GOING TO SINCE NO ONE HAS ASKED

DONT ACCUSE ME OF DODGING IF YOU HAVENT EVEN ASKED A QUESTION FOR ME TO DODGE

Bacde · Post Post #170 (isolation #30) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:28 am

BTW I don't really feel like one of cavane/muffin is necessarily scum anymore, thats why I haven't really been answering questions regarding that read

it was just based on them both being lurkbutts

Bacde · Post Post #185 (isolation #31) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:08 pm

Its true I am being an asshole right now maybe thats why I have so many votes haha

I will try to tone it down but look out guys

Bacde · Post Post #189 (isolation #32) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:13 pm

Who should we lynch Guyett?

Bacde · Post Post #193 (isolation #33) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:18 pm

In post 187, Cavane wrote:Kaiser I have a slight scum read on, mostly due to him being rather lurky. Guyett's reasoning for trying to prevent the wagon on him is also pretty poor, IMO.

Yes, his reasoning of "I know KaiserB he isn't like that" isn't very good but I want to see who he'd suggest we lynch instead. It might be a good suggestion

Bacde · Post Post #194 (isolation #34) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:21 pm

You are going to hammer me? Lol ok

I was just trying to converse with you but if you want to confirm yourself as mafia go ahead and hammer me haha

Bacde · Post Post #199 (isolation #35) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:29 pm

So was that a joke or like a reaction test or what was the purpose of doing that?

Bacde · Post Post #232 (isolation #36) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:42 pm

Ok lets calm down, I was maybe a bad example a little while back

Bacde · Post Post #238 (isolation #37) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:30 pm

EVv I'm sorry for cursing at you earlier this game

I should not do that

Bacde · Post Post #291 (isolation #38) » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:49 am

I don't understand how you guys get so angry with each other when you aren't even close to being lynched lol

Bacde · Post Post #297 (isolation #39) » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 292, Kyubey The Kid wrote:Hey Bacde, what did you think of Banana's explanation for your bandwagon? Do you think he tried to buddy you after he laid off?

Maybe he was trying to buddy me or maybe he just genuinely wanted to be friendly with me, I'm not really sure which.