NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[Boonskiies]

It's kitty/Ank, and then probably one of duppin/keysor

[Titus]

Why Boonskiies?

[duppin]

Alright, caught up.

To be honest, nothing has really changed. I do like a lot of what Titus has said today, but I could still see her be aligned with dave.

Anyway, not interested in Keysor, Ank or Aeronaut today.
I'd like to hear from the Hermit slot (Performer).

Oh and I would still lynch between Kitty, Titus, Boon and Hermit (in no particular order).

Titus is pushing on Kitty which is interesting. I believe there is at least one scum between them.
I honestly do not know how to read Boon, but he hasn't really done anything all game. He has been a bit more active today, but I disagree with most of his reads. Very questionable to say the least.
The Hermit slot looks suspicious. Had a slight town read on TheDominator, but did not like Annarchy or Hermit. Annarchy in particular looked very scummy.

Will most likely put down a vote tomorrow, assuming Performer has caught up. (Which is probably a bit too much to ask for, considering we are at 32 pages)

[Performer]

Alright, caught up.

To be honest, nothing has really changed. I do like a lot of what Titus has said today, but I could still see her be aligned with dave.

Anyway, not interested in Keysor, Ank or Aeronaut today.
I'd like to hear from the Hermit slot (Performer).

Oh and I would still lynch between Kitty, Titus, Boon and Hermit (in no particular order).

Titus is pushing on Kitty which is interesting. I believe there is at least one scum between them.
I honestly do not know how to read Boon, but he hasn't really done anything all game. He has been a bit more active today, but I disagree with most of his reads. Very questionable to say the least.
The Hermit slot looks suspicious. Had a slight town read on TheDominator, but did not like Annarchy or Hermit. Annarchy in particular looked very scummy.

Will most likely put down a vote tomorrow, assuming Performer has caught up. (Which is probably a bit too much to ask for, considering we are at 32 pages)

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32x3 pages

I'll do my best to catch up and post a reads list and/or scumhunt, as soon as I catch up . What I

can

tell everyone is if you've been townreading my slot, you're correct.

[Aeronaut]

Ok, I have a rather straightforward question to ask of all of you.

@Everyone What do you think of SCtH right now, and his slot during the game. Is he town, is he scum, and why?

I'd like an answer from everyone before we do anything. This is important to me.

Single scum, he has the inuyasha problem. Everyone died who suspected him. Multiscum, I would expect one team to suspect him. Yet that didn't happen, so I am a little perplexed.

Yet, he"s an easy Mislynch bait as town and people do not like him.

This is how I feel about Kitty, currently.

I just don't really have anything to say. Not many people are posting.

Really not sure if this is Boon trolling or Boon literally not having read this game once. Maybe both. I really don't know what to think of him anymore, especially since I've never seen his scum game before. Need to look into some meta, maybe.

Titus, vote Ank. Duppin, you should too. KG, vote Ank also, and I won't hammer you if you go to L-1. St Const...you should also. There. Then we'd have 5.

What. Why.

*Forgot the rest of Kitty

She has textbook double voter timing presence, was on during Day 4 and OK with that lynch, yet brings up stale reads to push me. She's hyper secure in surviving ATM.

Can you elaborate on some more of the the "textbook double voter" timing presence? If you already did something extensive and I'm missing it just link me.

It's kitty/Ank, and then probably one of duppin/keysor

Key is pretty conftown at this point with that claim, tbh. Unless there for some reason was just an Odd-night Vig and not an even one. Which I suppose COULD happen.

Alright, caught up.

To be honest, nothing has really changed. I do like a lot of what Titus has said today, but I could still see her be aligned with dave.

Anyway, not interested in Keysor, Ank or Aeronaut today.
I'd like to hear from the Hermit slot (Performer).

Oh and I would still lynch between Kitty, Titus, Boon and Hermit (in no particular order).

Hold on, in this post you go from saying you like a lot of what Titus has said today, to like two sentences down saying she's in your lynch pool? In what world does that make any sense?


Ok, the thing that's

really

bothering me about the Hermit slot here is that there's a lot of people saying "Oh yea he's suspicious!" but very few people willing to actually go through and lynch him at this point.

So I'm planning on voting him. I understand I asked what people thought of him and some of you replied, but really a lot of people didn't.

Because of that, I'm going to revise this question;

Why DON'T you want to lynch him today?

I, too, do want to see what performer is going to say, but honestly I really find it hard to believe I personally am going to be swayed against that lynch today.

[Aeronaut]

Key, who did you shoot last night?

[Keyser Söze]

Key, who did you shoot last night?

FA_Q2

[Titus]

@Aero, To deduce Kitty was the likely double voter, I looked at the timing of the double votes.

The double voter (presumption) must be active to cast the vote. On day 1, there's a narrow window of time the double vote could have been placed.

It has to be after Dragonspawn in 391 but before FAQ2 in 393.

We look at who was posting then we have BBT, Shazam, The Cow, and Dragon. The Cow is a stretch because he's several hours late.

Kitty just got a prod from the mod and shooting off a double vote right there is plausible.

[Titus]

Key, who did you shoot last night?

FA_Q2

That makes more sense as a BBT shot.

[Titus]

I'm willing to lynch Hermit, but I would much rather lynch Kitty right now.

[Titus]

@Aero, To deduce Kitty was the likely double voter, I looked at the timing of the double votes.

The double voter (presumption) must be active to cast the vote. On day 1, there's a narrow window of time the double vote could have been placed.

It has to be after Dragonspawn in 391 but before FAQ2 in 393.

We look at who was posting then we have BBT, Shazam, The Cow, and Dragon. The Cow is a stretch because he's several hours late.

Kitty just got a prod from the mod and shooting off a double vote right there is plausible.

Some of, if not all of those names are cleared because they died and the double votes continued.

[Keyser Söze]

Key, who did you shoot last night?

FA_Q2

That makes more sense as a BBT shot.

BBT was an

odd-night

vig. I do not like that post Titus

[Titus]

Sorry Keysor, I haven't been feeling well. I wasn't meaning to doubtcast you. I just forgot last night was even. I haven't been feeling well.

[Titus]

Plus I expected FAQ2 to die by BBT for awhile.

[Aeronaut]

Why did you decide to kill FA?

[Performer]

2264 – interesting statement. You’re saying this is your and Titus’s consistent playstyle when playing as scum? Also, has anyone played with them or seen a game with them – evidence would be nice
2278 – not sure what motive Hermit had about this bad statement. Town citizen is the same as VT except the role’s words are different. My predecessor really did a number on his role in a bad lurking manner
2327 – Titus , are you saying the role is alignment indicative? I’ve seen the DV role be town before
2334 – though it would’ve been extremely fun and chaotic with 2 scum teams and 1 town team, it makes a ton more sense that there’s an SK rather than 2 mafia teams at this point in the game. I’ve never played or seen a game with 2 mafia and 1 town faction…factor in the 8 remaining survivors – the numbers don’t add up to me. SK , 1 mafia team, 1 town team, looks much more likely to me

[Performer]

I found it to be unrealistic to look through all 90+ pages before day 5 deadline, compose a comprehensible reads list, and post it in a timely manner. So I decided to read from page 90 and beyond. Here’s my general reads list.

Town:

Titus

– plenty of scumhunting

Boon

– feels town = 2227 and other posts, look like he is pro-town

Null:

Keys

– 2251 and other posts, look like he is pro-town . See some scumhunting from him but 2297 doesn’t add up, compared to page 1 total amount of players. What’s going on with that, Keys?
Claimed to be Even-night Vig

Ank

Duppin

– thought Kitty/Titus/Boon/Hermit could be lynchable. Claimed to be Vig Enabler


Scummy:

Kitty

– 2280, just what are you trying to accomplish here? Only town left? That’s impossible

Aero

– claimed to be Two-shot BP Town in 2305. Anyone else think that’s a little overpowered even for a large game, therefore making it sound like a fake claim? 2404 about him doubting there being an Even-night Vig even though an Odd-night Vig died, doesn’t feel right

[Aeronaut]

Oh this is exciting.

I found it to be unrealistic to look through all 90+ pages before day 5 deadline, compose a comprehensible reads list, and post it in a timely manner. So I decided to read from page 90 and beyond. Here’s my general reads list.

Town:

Titus

– plenty of scumhunting

Boon

– feels town = 2227 and other posts, look like he is pro-town

You literally aren't saying anything here... Titus is scum hunting. That's it? Where? With who?
What looks town about Boon's 2227?

Null:

Keys

– 2251 and other posts, look like he is pro-town . See some scumhunting from him but 2297 doesn’t add up, compared to page 1 total amount of players. What’s going on with that, Keys?
Claimed to be Even-night Vig

Ank

Duppin

– thought Kitty/Titus/Boon/Hermit could be lynchable. Claimed to be Vig Enabler

Besides Key, you literally just didn't say anything about Ank, and for Duppin you state two random facts and don't say any more on the matter. This doesn't tell us anything about what YOU think, it's just regurgitated.

Scummy:

Kitty

– 2280, just what are you trying to accomplish here? Only town left? That’s impossible

Therefore, based on that one post and not any other part of the game, Kitty is scum?

Aero

– claimed to be Two-shot BP Town in 2305. Anyone else think that’s a little overpowered even for a large game, therefore making it sound like a fake claim? 2404 about him doubting there being an Even-night Vig even though an Odd-night Vig died, doesn’t feel right

Yes, because 2-shot bulletproof is so overpowered. 2404 also isn't about me doubting an Even-night-vig.. it's me literally telling boon that it doesn't make a lot of sense to be doubting that claim with a flipped Odd-night vig. I still beleive it COULD be possible for Pisskop to do that to us, but it's highly unlikely at this point and I don't really care to pursue that now, or ever really.

Your reads list is comprised of things like "This post feels town", and "___ is scum hunting", random facts that don't really correlate, and selective posts from each person. I get that you don't want to read 90 pages, but this is really a very lazy and fence-sitty reads list. You're scum, trying to get SOMETHING out there.

[Titus]

2327, I have seen DV be town and not town. The fact is no one claimed it, therefore its not town.

Multigroup scum is somewhat common in larges. Just pull a sample of large themes.

Will read the rest later. Work and bed.

[Aeronaut]

Here's the deal; we have four days left and Hermit/Performer is who we're lynching. I'm pretty sure he's scum at this point, and that empty readlist combined with the fact that it's taken this long for anyone to try to push this guy should

really

tell you all you need to know.

VOTE: Performer

That's what I'm doing today. If you're smart, then you should be doing it right along with me.

[Aeronaut]

Titus, I know you're sick and busy and all but seeing as you have him pretty far into your scumlist, I'd love your support on this too. If you actually think he's scum, then you should have no problem voting him today.

[Aeronaut]

If you're not convinced, here's the entirety of his ISO. It's 12 posts.

Spoiler:

Okay, so interesting tidbit for you all to anaylze. I didn't actually sign up for this game, it was someone else.

Carry on...

Titus, can we play a game without you trying to kill me?

Yes, I have been surprised how many times I have gotten out of being lynched. I hide behind others scumhunting passion.

The only time I actually get lynched is when ppl are just seriously confused/frustrated, so they lynch me as a last resort.

I am feeling an Aero lynch

VOTE: Aero

Pisskop, you need to relax on people man

Well you could always lurk

I support a mass roleclaim

What the fuck is this nominating shit?

I am town [citizen] which is totally different than vanilla town

If I could count the times scum reverted on a claim by stating it was all a big joke that went over our heads.

Hey guys, I still think aeronaut is scum. Mod is way to pushy with the prods, let's be honest.

Pro tip for self meta lovers; I avoid claiming vanilla if I can manage it.

@Titus, are you saying I kill off people who suspect me as scum, or vote people who suspect me as either allignment?

Sooner or later people are going to come to terms with the fact that I am a scum magnet, so lynching people who attach to me when I am obvious town is not a bad strategy.

BTW Titus, I don't see why you had to go and delete all the hard work you did on your VCA. Even if you think there is an error, I am still sure people would appreciate reading it.

I am also establishing a meta where you never get around to posting your VCA as scum, so my constructive feedback would be to try and break that trend if it does exist (you could disagree)

Most of them are mainly just-nothing posts, as well.

[Aeronaut]

Now add that to the two posts by Performer today.

[Keyser Söze]

Performer, show me more of Boonskiie's "pro-town" posts.

[Keyser Söze]

Why did you decide to kill FA?

I will paraphrase the PM I sent pisskop:

"BlueBloodedToffee is town.
FA_Q2 has constantly read scum as town, and town as scum.
St Constantine the Hermit has been lurking since replacing in.
garmr I like as town, or anti-mafia scum.
I like duppin and Titus' scum-hunting.
Aeronaut, great start, now null.
Ankamius, Kitty Galore and Boonskies, I have no real strong town read on these slots.

Shoot FA..."

Sorry FA.