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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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That must the be the first time I have ever been town read for aggression. I mean, it's completely null as I'm aggressive as either alignment, but usually (like 95% of the time) people will scum read me for it so I'm not sure what to make of you town reading me.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Plotinus Kitten Caboodle
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Last edited by Plotinus on Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:30 am, edited 1 time in total.The failure mode of clever is asshole.
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DeasVail he/himSurvivorhe/him
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MTD: What I mean is that Espe gave quite a vague reason for his townread of you. What I find disturbing is that you went straight for voting for Espe, citing his townread of you as one of the reasons, though you make no real attempt to understand the townread at all. Would anyone townreading you be considered scummy? Is it just Espe? Are you just using it as a convenient reason to scumread someone? Tell me what's up.
I've lost my passion for an MTD scumread tbh, but I'd still like a response to the above.
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BBT: I believe you're over-reacting to my comment on you. I even mentioned that it might be how you play so I'd need an answer of that. Later I said you were no longer a scumread because it became obvious that it was a "you" thing. It made me suspicious as an early thing because everyone else was still not taking the game very seriously while you were being ultra-serious. I could see this coming from scum so concerned about looking pro-town that it consumes their very being, but from you I no longer consider it alignment-relevant and have said as much. We're good, it's ok.
Most of my reads are at least partially explained throughout my posts. Jar Jar Drinks is not but I'm not especially inclined to explain it right now. Just now that I see him as the most town person here and if anyone tries to lynch them I will strike with a vengeance.
I don't mean this in a demeaning way or anything, but are you normally this grumpy? I mean, your complaints about me seem pretty far-fetched, and as I said, most of my stated reads shouldn't be too hard to work out based on my posts.-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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In post 202, DeasVail wrote:
I don't mean this in a demeaning way or anything, but are you normally this grumpy? I mean, your complaints about me seem pretty far-fetched, and as I said, most of my stated reads shouldn't be too hard to work out based on my posts.
If you're referring to my comments about 'try-harding' then yeah, I'm always that grumpy. It's a real pet hate of mine and some people think that it's a valid reason to scum read someone. It's not. Some people are just more serious than others.
I have complaints about you? All I said was you didn't provide reasons for your reads (I went back through your ISO and I can see that you did elude to them after the fact), other than that I don't think I've said a whole lot else so I'm not sure I understand your far-fetched comment?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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DeasVail he/himSurvivorhe/him
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All Alone Goon
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In post 188, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 171, All Alone wrote:
I don't agree that you made your position clear. You said
In post 90, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:As soon as she didn't vote me when she was expressing suspicion of my slot it started to ping me.
which lalala first did in 12, and even though you were arguing with her the whole time I see no indication that you had any suspicion on her at all until 79,after she actually voted.Considering that your explanation for your suspicion of her is that you found her lack of vote scummy, it really doesn't seem genuine that you'd wait until after the vote to go on the attack.
Really? I had no problem with Ducks not voting me?
Spoiler: BBT's very clear problem with Ducks not voting him
Welcome to the scum pile.
I really don't buy that you genuinely believe that "Why haven't you moved your vote?" constitutes a clear stance. That's pretty obviously not true.dear princess celestia, sometimes it can be hard for a shy pony like me to stand up for myself, and when i first tried it, i didn't like the pony i became. but i've learned that standing up for yourself isn't the same as changing who you are. now i know how to put my hoof down without being unpleasant or mean-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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JarJarDrinks Mafia Scum
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I really can't get over that "misguided" comment. When calling someone misguided, you HAVE to be reading them as town. The two "misguided" people DRK was presumably talking about were MTD and Bella.
- MTD was someone she questioned heavily in that same post. Weird to do that to a town read.
- And her next 2 posts, she asks mollie and BBT if they think Bella is scum. Implying that she's scumreading Bella herself.
Now sure, she doesn't outright say that she thinks MTD or Bella is scum. But...she doesn't really give scum reads on anyone.-
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Espeonage anySurvivorany
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Espeonage anySurvivorany
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Good news is that I currently have four strong town reads. Sifting through the rest is the goal. BBT is looking a bit better, annoyance from his is expected due to playstyle so I'm not sure what I'm using in my head as follow up reasoning is going to hold.
I also have many precedents for claiming early, some of them have been good. Seeing as it was still getting some chatter. I'll come clean. I will claim properly if I'm getting strung up. But I want to have the ability to go ham on things and if I'm right actually have a shot of sticking around. I feel it frees up my play to do outrageous low percentage things that if correct would clear me by associative. Couple that with thinking I am actually going to be good this game and I think that the claim is fine, and should be null on people's reads of me.Don't @ me.-
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JarJarDrinks Mafia Scum
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Something else that I find scummy (DV already touched on this a little):
In post 146, DeathRowKitty wrote:To respond to whoever it was that asked, yes, the VT claim was terrible.I think we were all just assuming it was a joke. The more we talk about it, the worse it gets, but on the bright side,Espeonage is now a great compromise lynchif we have any game day in which we collectively do poorly enough to need one.
Reading up on the other stuffs..
Don't these 2 things conflict? If we're assuming the claim was a joke, why would esp be a great compromise lynch?-
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JarJarDrinks Mafia Scum
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In post 214, Espeonage wrote:No they don't.
One talks about perceptions and the other talks post my confirmation.
I don't see how this relates to what I asked at all. Why does DRK think you'd make a great compromise lynch?-
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Wanderer-nl Mafia Scum
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lala: In 151 you respond to questions about BBT and then you put something in about a claim and your next post does say something about a sentence ending up in the wrong place and I'm having a hard time figuring out where it should be. Can you clear that up for me? I thought I found a spot but it doesn't match up with the rest of the paragraph, it looks like you were mixing up 2 thought processes there.
@mollie: Why are you voting Deasvail? Reading further I actually think I get it, if you feel like explaining anyway I'd like that.
Two more pages to read and I'm starting to feel really left out.
Deasvail feels townish to me. I don't like Jarjar's reason for having BBT as a top townread. BBT feels town but he always does to me and I'll probably get paranoid about him several times during the game (if he even lives that long). I like Esp currently for town and mollie is looking a little more scummy now. I have absolutely no idea what to think of Anti, I'll probably try to level with him after I had some drinks (and am, actually, at his level)
I'm going to have dinner, someone meanwhile please get me back into this by engaging with me.-
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JarJarDrinks Mafia Scum
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In post 221, Wanderer-nl wrote:I don't like Jarjar's reason for having BBT as a top townread.
The part about us sharing scumreads or that I lean town on active, aggresive behavior?
I will say that I'm not really scumreading Esp too much anymore. I've liked several of his posts on this page. Though I'd like for him to give mollie a real answer about his townreads.-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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Espeonage anySurvivorany
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In post 220, JarJarDrinks wrote:In post 214, Espeonage wrote:No they don't.
One talks about perceptions and the other talks post my confirmation.
I don't see how this relates to what I asked at all. Why does DRK think you'd make a great compromise lynch?
bc town should lynch someone and best off it not being a PR.Don't @ me.
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