Blitz Queue Trial (Closed)
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zoraster He/HimDisorganized CrimeHe/Him
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Equinox he/theyShot Counthe/they
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Antihero al;kdjfal;kj
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zoraster He/HimDisorganized CrimeHe/Him
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Rob14 Jack of All Trades
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Also I assume most mods will impose shorter activity window requirements, so for many players, total activity over a day may not go down much. Keeping in mind also the least active players are less likely to sign up for these. An activity requirement of one post every 24 hours, replacement after another 12 hours or three prods is not unreasonable.-
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zoraster He/HimDisorganized CrimeHe/Him
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pisskop Survivor
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ooobeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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tn5421 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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mastin2 The Second Coming
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The vast majority, given that, y'know. Back until I think it was 2009 or so (give or take a year) we didn't evenIn post 24, wgeurts wrote:
How many games like this actually ran to completion?In post 22, Rob14 wrote:Have we considered creating a turtle queue for those among us that want 2 month deadlines?havedeadlines.My academy.
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AxleGreaser Mafia Scum
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TLDR: i am neither pro nor anti, blitz games. I have played fast (D48/N24hr) games, I am now playing slow ones here. potayto potahto
To decide, for a start I would need to see what culturally, will actually constitute playing the game. (and what gets Lurker lynched)
The fast games here may bear no similarity to the ones I have played elsewhere.
In post 28, Antihero wrote:guessing town: scum win ratio will be ~ 30:70
That will depend on how much people play....
If the shorter days till have the same number of posts and content per 48-96hr day as your current two week games do....
If the players in this queue treat it as as shorter but more intense commitment, then being scum and responding in real time in thread is *hard*.
if as per a normal length MSgame, then if anytime scum get into trouble in blitz game they can just vanish for 24 hrs... while they get their head around the situation.
RL mafia Example:
I was once scum and accidentally slipped that i had town read on player X, by the implication of what I had just posted.
I bought myself little breathing room by being aggressive in how I broke the TvT, and reaction testing one of the participants. (i wanted strategically to have a town read on that one, player X was an oopsie.)
but then it was my turn under the microscope to explain how I knew it was TvT.... I suddenly needed a genuine way to read a guy (player X) I had IRL previously found reasonably hard to read
and i needed it now. ( I sat very still reached far back inside my head and found a new genuine way to read X's alignment. Then I burned it, by telling him what his tell was. )
So yeah real time *can* be hard for scum. It will depend on the culture of how the game is actually played.
I suspect the play largely won me that game, but it was the most intense/hard 30 mins or so of mafia I ever played.
The hardest 24hrs, happened in a MS 2 week deadline game.
Also as stated balance is fixable. However if we had to push balance to far in favor of town via pwr roles that will mean lynching is closer to random and then it asymptotically approaches a skill free game. Which is fine, if its just social lubrication, but if you are a game player then balance pushed that far kills fun.
My 2c. Spin the wheel and see.-
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Equinox he/theyShot Counthe/they
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ZZZX Survivor
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Interesting... Will do dis.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Equinox he/theyShot Counthe/they
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The Blitz Queue is now open for moderators to sign up. To sign up, read the instructions in the queue thread and send your information via PM to me.-
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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If I may, I suggest getting several replacements to sign up for each game. I think there will be a lot of flaking going on, at least that's the case at another site with short deadlines.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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callforjudgement Microprocessor
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tn5421 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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In post 41, Klingoncelt wrote:If I may, I suggest getting several replacements to sign up for each game. I think there will be a lot of flaking going on, at least that's the case at another site with short deadlines.
This seems like a wise precaution, how many do you think we should have prepared?WIP-
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Tere Mafia Scum
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*supportive thoughts* Won't work for me (mafia barely does any more, I have real life stuff to concentrate on) but I think it's a good concept to have available.Mostly V/LA at weekends. GTKAS - Tere
I am also really too busy to play mafia to the quality level I prefer. I should spectate. If you see me in more than one game tell me off! Also invite me to cool games to spectate. I will bring cupcakes! <3-
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Rob14 Jack of All Trades
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fferyllt Titan of Trajectory
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I'm accepting pre-ins for a 14 player themed Blitz game. Announcement here.-
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Katsuki Cupcake
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In post 29, zoraster wrote:Then design harder games for scum to win. Balance is fairly easy to solve as long as you recognize the limitations of town, which MS as a whole frequently forgets.
Considering how MS setups are continuing to skew towards townsided, would it be wise to suggest this harder games for scum?
As for Blitz games, towns in the past typically benefit from a fast pace for a variety of reasons. I'm curious if it will carry over to games specifically designed for a speed format.Fluffy fluffy~~~ |"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"- GreyICE
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zoraster He/HimDisorganized CrimeHe/Him
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In post 47, Katsuki wrote:In post 29, zoraster wrote:Then design harder games for scum to win. Balance is fairly easy to solve as long as you recognize the limitations of town, which MS as a whole frequently forgets.
Considering how MS setups are continuing to skew towards townsided,would it be wise to suggest this harder games for scum?
As for Blitz games, towns in the past typically benefit from a fast pace for a variety of reasons. I'm curious if it will carry over to games specifically designed for a speed format.
You have said this before, and you are as wrong now as you were then -- which is very wrong..-
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Katsuki Cupcake
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I don't recall any research being done into setups, just town win rates (which I'm sure is rather low since the current meta favors scum heavily).Fluffy fluffy~~~ |"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"- GreyICE
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