WiFom City: Don't Trust Titus - GAME OVER

mastin2 · Post Post #4100 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:55 pm

Sonic, can you claim all the non-living players you protected, and what nights it was on?
They're dead now, so outing the info can only strengthen your position.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4101 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:57 pm

Btw plotfrog one last note

Mafia DEFINITELY will want you dead today.

They cannot risk you pressing the self destruct switch and allowing you to eliminate at least one, or worst the last two of their members, resulting in their loss.

Their lives are fragile

They know you're the arsonist and that you have to die. There's no way out.

For me, I can still be afflicted by human perils like buddying and wrong reads.

They'll be on my side. You may want to think about that.

mastin2 · Post Post #4102 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:58 pm

In post 4099, Metal Sonic wrote:Mastina
A note
Plotfrog may claim BP as arsonist to avoid being shot by mafia

Sonic, let's be honest.

Look at how many stopped kills there are.

That aint you alone. Maybe one, not all.

Plotfrog got shot at. Pretty much guaranteed at least once, maybe many times. They're bulletproof. It's just a matter of BP-arson or just-BP. I lean the former rather strongly, but I want to get all the actions compiled as neatly and cleanly as I can to confirm.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4103 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:58 pm

In post 4100, mastin2 wrote:Sonic, can you claim all the non-living players you protected, and what nights it was on?
They're dead now, so outing the info can only strengthen your position.

I'm phone posting RN so it's inconvenient especially when sala sent the shots

I'll account for them later at a computer (8 hours or more)

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4104 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:00 pm

In post 4102, mastin2 wrote:
In post 4099, Metal Sonic wrote:Mastina
A note
Plotfrog may claim BP as arsonist to avoid being shot by mafia
Sonic, let's be honest.

Look at how many stopped kills there are.

That aint you alone. Maybe one, not all.

Plotfrog got shot at. Pretty much guaranteed at least once, maybe many times. They're bulletproof. It's just a matter of BP-arson or just-BP. I lean the former rather strongly, but I want to get all the actions compiled as neatly and cleanly as I can to confirm.

Hehe, you'll be surprised at my accuracy, especially when some players e.g farside also was a protective role and threw off scum position

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4105 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:00 pm

"Sala"s accuracy

Though I am admittedly a good doc as well

Because I can think like scum and predict them

Firebringer · Post Post #4106 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:42 pm

The only thing scummy about MS is that MS is still alive being claimed Doctor.
But I think thats a nefarious plot by the scum to frame him.

MS is too awesome to be sucm.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4107 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:15 pm

Yeah man!!!! Metal sonic is awesome!!!

Shiro · Post Post #4108 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:36 pm

In post 4075, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4066, Shiro wrote:ok MS Spill the beans

You don't command me, I'm not spilling shot. Would sala spill shit in my situation? Probably not

*sigh *

BBmolla · Post Post #4109 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:55 pm

VOTE: PlotFrog

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4110 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:05 pm

That's L-1

Plotfrog, submit or die!

Banana Frog · Post Post #4111 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:58 pm

good morning.

i need to make coffee.

I think the most important things town needs to know is that elusive spent all of day 1 tying various town aligned players

to each other

, for example littlegumball with klingoncelt, us with klingoncelt, quoth with klingoncelt, basically everyone who resisted klingoncelt's lynch. This is in sharp contrast to we didn't playtest this where elusive spent most of her time tying various people to here buddy, peregrine.

I can see 0 scum motivation for playing day 1 then elusive played it. Elusive isn't stupid. As scum, her actions are purposeful. She doesn't waste an entire day phase speculating that various town aligned players are scum together. Firebringer is almost 100% certainly town.

Spoiler: elusive

the bolded go to posts that i thought were important.

Town should also know that peregrine spent day 1 doing nothing BUT tying various town aligned players to people who have since flipped scum. This is highly suspicious behaviour.

Spoiler: peregrine/bbmolla

shiro is probably scum. process of eliminatino because firebringer, pisskop, and mastina are 100% town.

Spoiler: oversoul

i'm going to make coffee now. mastin will notice the uneven interactions there which was giving me pause earlier but it might make more sense if we account for who oversoul knew and had more experience with? people tend to interact a little more with their friends. or we could account for inactivity since grib was pretty inactive? idk. but shiro's posts have been 100% scum especially the overconcern with missing nightkills.

--P

BBmolla · Post Post #4112 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:59 pm

Banana Frog · Post Post #4113 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:08 pm

coffee!

Spoiler: legend for +- thing for anyone who wants to decipher it

--P

Banana Frog · Post Post #4114 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:20 pm

In post 4102, mastin2 wrote:
In post 4099, Metal Sonic wrote:Mastina
A note
Plotfrog may claim BP as arsonist to avoid being shot by mafia
Sonic, let's be honest.

Look at how many stopped kills there are.

That aint you alone. Maybe one, not all.

Plotfrog got shot at. Pretty much guaranteed at least once, maybe many times. They're bulletproof. It's just a matter of BP-arson or just-BP. I lean the former rather strongly, but I want to get all the actions compiled as neatly and cleanly as I can to confirm.

I would like to point to Mini 1675 where in early July I was crosskilled on night by vonflare 1 for being the towniest player in the game, though he cited wdpt as part of his decision. I knew I was sticking my neck out too far in that game but it was only my second time being scum so I didn't know how to turn the obvtown off yet.

I've learned to hang back a little since then if I'm enjoying a game and am not feeling like nightkill baiting but whether I obvtown or whether I lacklustre is still mostly dependent on how much offline stuff is kicking my arse and has fairly little to do with my alignment.

I would 100% without a doubt have been nightkilled by now if I were not bulletproof because I had phases in this game where I was universally townread and also phases where we were right about most of our reads and there's also the idea that there is at least 1 player who I'm sure is scum who would have nightkilled me for reputation reasons whether they've been earned this game or not.

There can be no doubt that I'm bulletproof here.

--P

Banana Frog · Post Post #4115 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:24 pm

In post 4097, mastin2 wrote:-singer was a (mafia) Psychotic Kidnapper. Actions: Jailed Quoth N1, N2? Unknown otherwise.

singer jailed quoth every night.

-TriforceP was a Drunk Agent. Results, and to who: Not sure, but Triforce said N1 "connie" (need to check who that is), N2 same, and N3 TBB.

constantine. and constantine went nowhere on n2 despite claiming to have investigated singer that night. this was a cornerstone in the case against constantine.

-Constantine was a Drunk Rolecop. Results, and to who: He claimed to investigate singer once, but not sure about the accuracy there.

he investigated ika on night 3 i think and got pretender (we were the one that got the PM, but we didn't know it was ika who he investigated, and he refused to say it at the time.)

so we knew 100% that ika was pretender we just thought he was mafia pretender.

--P

Banana Frog · Post Post #4116 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:30 pm

In post 4091, mastin2 wrote:Dammit.

Why is it that you both look like scum right now?

(Admittedly, Plotfrog's attitude here looks more forced and contrived, whereas Sonic's just...well, Sonic. But still bad for him.)

I shouldn't post after midnight. I was in a silly mood. I guess the way I feel about sonic right now is that yeah he's scum but it's not his fault he got a red role PM.

--P

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4117 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:37 pm

I see this. Gonna read.

Do I take it that you resist?

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4118 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:40 pm

In post 4116, Banana Frog wrote:
In post 4091, mastin2 wrote:Dammit.

Why is it that you both look like scum right now?

(Admittedly, Plotfrog's attitude here looks more forced and contrived, whereas Sonic's just...well, Sonic. But still bad for him.)

I shouldn't post after midnight. I was in a silly mood. I guess the way I feel about sonic right now is that yeah he's scum but it's not his fault he got a red role PM.

--P

Huh. You're saying I got a red role pm? Shouldn't I be like purple or blue or whatever the arsonist color is? It's structurally impossible for either of us to be mafia lol

Sounds like you're arguing for the sake of survival

I'll check out your links

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4119 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:48 pm

All your arguments make sense. That is good.

Unfortunately, you're still arsonist. None of them have failed to push us slightest towards me away from that

Banana Frog · Post Post #4120 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:49 pm

In post 4114, Banana Frog wrote:on night by vonflare 1

on night 1 by vonflare.

EBWOP.

Metal Sonic wrote:Huh. You're saying I got a red role pm? Shouldn't I be like purple or blue or whatever the arsonist color is? It's structurally impossible for either of us to be mafia lol

Sounds like you're arguing for the sake of survival

I'll check out your links

I still haven't made up my mind which faction you are. Arsonist is probably more likely than mafia? I mean my first thought was that there was a no kill gambit last night but scum are motivated to try to get the arsonist. maybe they tried shooting me again in case it would work this time? but they wouldn't have because that would narrow our pool down to just you which would be bad for them if you're groupscum but ok if you're arsonist.

why haven't you been nightkilled, though, seriously?

--P

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4121 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:50 pm

Where did you get that Pisskop and Mastina are 100% town?

I'd LOVE for Mastina to be town, but first we must confirm that there is a 0% chance of godfather

Since, Titus put a shitton of them in the setup

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4122 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:51 pm

Why haven't I been night killed? Maybe they tried and failed, and decided to never do it again

Once bitten twice shy maybe

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4123 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:52 pm

OK

Constantine was the godfather. PERFECT.

Going to check if godfather cannot be repeated among scum team.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4124 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:52 pm

Plot you know after you flip arsonist I'm conftown right

Lol