Open 612 - Bad Poets Society - Game Over - Town Win

[makara]

Also,

V/la tomorrow

[Varsoon]

VOTE: Brunneis

You wouldn't take the path of least resistance as town.
At least, I don't think so.

Ika wagon is also worthwhile and I'd support it, but more for pressure reasons, like, get your head in the game son.

Votecount?

[Brunneis]

I had never asked anyone to defend me. I am more than capable of standing my own ground without others weighing their opinions in. My stance on the issue of myself, is that myself should not be an issue. I cannot understand for the life of me why I happen to be a public issue on this site.

You have no ground to stand on. Because you're a shitty player. You trollol post, fluff post, waste everyone's time post, then you flake. Once in a while you make a decent post with content.
When others bitched about you I was all 'yeah, but he'll grow up and behave, just let him get it put of his system, give him another chance...'
I stood up for you when others wanted you blacklisted. Do you owe me any favors for that? No. I'm just letting you know I won't stand in the way of anyone wanting to blacklist you anymore.

I have been quite vocal about toxicity and attacking/mentioning players negatively inside the game enviornment, which is what you are doing now, and doing that makes this feel more like a chore than a game. In any other place I would just shrug it off, but it does get to me when I am in these situations in which I cannot ignore, with the whole purpose of being involved to have fun.

You having fun shouldn't mean making others hate the game. You make me hate this game.

People have expressed sentiment about not liking players who do not take every single post ultra seriously, but this does not have to be an ultra serious game, and since the goal of loosening up a bit and trying to goof around is to make the game possess a lighter enviornment, then so be it.

Goofing around does not mean naked voting players to start a trollol wagon just for the lulz.

Like it or not as an Innocent Child you are looked upon as somewhat of a Town Leader. Quit playing against your win condition, or I'll have no choice but to report you and request a force replace. I've never done that before. Your play sucks that bad, Constantine.

You think I'm Scum? Build a goddamn case, then.



Klingoncelt

[Brunneis]

ONE MORE THING...

I was just thinking that for Klingoncelts rage to be serious, she would have to be equally angry at Ika and other slots which have lurked up to now and offered much less than I have, even if some of my posts are not exactly super serious.

Try signing up for any game I signed up for. WotC. The rage couldn't be more real.

Too bad FB couldn't muzzle you.

[Brunneis]

You're supposed to be the fucking Town Leader, but you're nothing but a dumbass troll.

Since when did an IC have more knowledge than us? It's day 1, you won't ever have everyone with the exact opinion, regardless if confirmed town or not.

Who said anything about knowledge?

Leading isn't the same as informing.

The IC is someone we should be able to rally around, someone that can help sort out the information we get.

Instead we have to cater to a short bus riding asshat that's distracting Town rather than helping.

Constantine and Firebringer are smart enough, they should be

more

useful.

[Brunneis]

VOTE: Brunneis

You wouldn't take the path of least resistance as town.
At least, I don't think so.

Ika wagon is also worthwhile and I'd support it, but more for pressure reasons, like, get your head in the game son.

Votecount?

What do you mean by path of least resistance?

Klingn

[Varsoon]

Hey, Brunni, Klingon, whoever's there.
Less frustration, more reads and direction.
If you're going up in flame, I'd at least like something to work with post-flip.
UNVOTE: because I don't really want the day to end in a Brunnies lynch right now.

As for path of least resistance;
I mean that you seem to be reading other players and interacting with people in a way that doesn't cause too much conflict. Maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like the only buttons you're pushing in are on Saint for his playstyle. I also don't like that you're willing to compromise from Trivium to my wagon, not so much due to OMGUS, but because it comes awkwardly after Errant supporting my wagon and because I was one of the more diligent supporters of the Trivium wagon.

[Varsoon]

Just in case that unvote isn't legal
UNVOTE:

[Errantparabola]

Varsoon, please. I just want to know why and where you made the Errant lynch transition cmon

[Varsoon]

I'm not quite sure what you're asking.

[Quaroath]

Vote Count 1.4

In the shadows we exist
Scraping for compassion
Permeating as a mist

Suppressed voices
Unable to be heard,
Hope lies in outlets let to surge

Perfunctory images on repeat
A full scrapbook
Not another blank sheet

Emotions bent up now converge,
A catharsis
A crack
Let it release,
Finally the mind experiences peace

Years of frustration left behind
Let it go,
Expand your mind

Brunneis – (3) GrayFoxxxx, The Fire Hermit, Trivium

Goodmorning – (2) Ika Musume, Vedith
Trivium - (2) Brunneis, MaxwellPuckett
Errantparabola - (1) Ranger
Ika Musume - (1) Makara
Varsoon - (1) Errantparabola

Not Voting – (3) duppin, goodmorning, Varsoon

Ranger has been prodded.

Greyfoxxxx on baby LOA until 10.24.2015. YAY!!!! CONGRATZ

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-10-25 23:59:59)

[MaxwellPuckett]

how so, gm?

Well, the big one I'm seeing is Trivium vs Brunneis. Do you not?

I'm subscribing to that, yes. Both of them are scummy, but their interactions suggest it'd be weird for both of them to be scum. Hence, the 'vs.' I've been comparing the two because Brunneis has a wagon and Trivium is also a recognized scumread by some people.

Are you townreading both of them, or are you having a problem with the game being set up in a vs format despite it being D1? Are you wary of the 'one flips town, we lynch the other' idea? Which is a stupid idea, by the way.

Yeah, definitely scum between the two.
I got firebringer to cave in and compromise for a Brunneis lynch. That means our vote will not be changing at all, which also means scum or any holdout townies just need to give up and join the wagon.

So, uh... you're not the town leader, but we all have to follow your vote? Fantastic.


I like Varsoon's vote then unvote, if Brunneis is town. It looked to be in response to Brunneis' posts, coupled with a sudden change in plans that I see more often from town than scum, who have at least a bit of a plan in mind.

[Ika Musume]

whos here im gonna force myself to play now even though i have very little

[Ika Musume]

im also fine with being runned up for a cliam

[The Fire Hermit]

@Firebringer

I know you wanted Kling to respond, but you, Max, makara, and every other lurker in the game are the only people who haven't stated that my (Taly's posts) posts as either scummy, useless, or "just to

defend myself and push others

- clear myself as town" - so I feel like I could speak to you.

But my vote is on Trivium. Personally, I am not liking the idea of GM being town, and I've seen games where early aggressive "town" have flipped scum, so I can't say Ranger is town either. Trivium has bugged both heads of this hydra the entire game - and I don't really trust what they say because I keep picking up some very odd phrases - and I don't think people are acknowledging that.

(Which I've stated some in 288)

I'm not going to argue with your other head, Fire. It has been inquired on why he thinks I'm scummy - by myself - most of all, but nobody has gotten a reply - and he likes to think that their 3rd vote on my wagon is the one that is leading my wagon. The only thing I understand about this is that it is harming town, but I'm not excusing anything I - my other head - or anyone else who could have contributed to that.

In any case, the deadline is in 2 1/2 days, I believe. We need to begin solidifying our votes

>>>>

And I'm speaking to everyone with this statement.

I'm not opposed to a Varsoon lynch if nobody sees Trivium a conducive enough lynch to push against him at this point.

And yeah.... This is where

I am at

, right now.

Can you explain how Varsoon is a better lynch than you or Trivium?

[The Fire Hermit]

@Max its interesting you are going in opposite direction than you were in start of day.
I noticed you were sucking up to me a bit at beginning but now are disagreeing.

I kind of like that you aren't trying suck up anymore, but I am wondering if you are just discrediting for scum purposes.

[The Fire Hermit]

Goofing around does not mean naked voting players to start a trollol wagon just for the lulz.

Like it or not as an Innocent Child you are looked upon as somewhat of a Town Leader. Quit playing against your win condition, or I'll have no choice but to report you and request a force replace. I've never done that before. Your play sucks that bad, Constantine.

You think I'm Scum? Build a goddamn case, then.



Klingoncelt

Seriously this and other posts are going a bit too far.
Hermit has other ways of scumhunting, most of them are reaction testing.
All your AtE at the moment has not increased my perception you are town.
Ignore Hermit if you want, try to scumhunt if you are town.

We are distracting from the game with this stupid drama.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

@Varsoon who are your top scum reads atm?

[The Fire Hermit]

Sorry Maxwell, I missed it.

I'm not entirely sure yet. The town read on me feels like buddying. Trying to determine whether that is the case or not. I don't know who I would vote for at the moment though.
I do have other reads yes, but you'll have to wait.

Why do you not feel that any of the other reads are buddying?

Do you like Brunneis scum reads as well?

[Ika Musume]

fire.......

are you going to interact with me?

[Ika Musume]

or am i gonna wait for nightfall do shit

[The Fire Hermit]

fire.......

are you going to interact with me?

Do you have any thoughts on Brunneis as of lately?
Varsoon?
Max?
Trivium?

What 3 players would you lynch if you could today? In what order?

[Ika Musume]

ok my eyes glossed trying to triple iso................

im gonna go on gut calls right now for this soooooo

town
would lynch
town
need to iso

[Ranger]

I'll read the four pages tomorrow, but I'm not optimistic about there being relevant content.

[Brunneis]

@Firebringer

I know you wanted Kling to respond, but you, Max, makara, and every other lurker in the game are the only people who haven't stated that my (Taly's posts) posts as either scummy, useless, or "just to

defend myself and push others

- clear myself as town" - so I feel like I could speak to you.

But my vote is on Trivium. Personally, I am not liking the idea of GM being town, and I've seen games where early aggressive "town" have flipped scum, so I can't say Ranger is town either. Trivium has bugged both heads of this hydra the entire game - and I don't really trust what they say because I keep picking up some very odd phrases - and I don't think people are acknowledging that.

(Which I've stated some in 288)

I'm not going to argue with your other head, Fire. It has been inquired on why he thinks I'm scummy - by myself - most of all, but nobody has gotten a reply - and he likes to think that their 3rd vote on my wagon is the one that is leading my wagon. The only thing I understand about this is that it is harming town, but I'm not excusing anything I - my other head - or anyone else who could have contributed to that.

In any case, the deadline is in 2 1/2 days, I believe. We need to begin solidifying our votes

>>>>

And I'm speaking to everyone with this statement.

I'm not opposed to a Varsoon lynch if nobody sees Trivium a conducive enough lynch to push against him at this point.

And yeah.... This is where

I am at

, right now.

Can you explain how Varsoon is a better lynch than you or Trivium?

Not in great detail - but there are some things, Klingon and I already believed that Varsoon is playing to a scum-meta we've seen a few times as individual players. We've gone back and forth on our read on him and we're still uncertain of it now.

Varsoon hasn't pushed discussion much, and he doesn't have a lot of useful content

Not sure what post, but Errant caught some inconsistencies on Varsoon - it just makes me think even more that Varsoon could be scum.

I'd still much rather lynch Trivium today, but nobody has really thrown a vote on Trivium, nor has he been that responsive these past few pages. I'm going off of alternatives here.

Plus, I kind of wanted to bring the discussion of a Varsoon lynch because some people already thought of it, and I wanted to see Varsoon try to interact with me to gain some certainty on a read from him.

Goofing around does not mean naked voting players to start a trollol wagon just for the lulz.

Like it or not as an Innocent Child you are looked upon as somewhat of a Town Leader. Quit playing against your win condition, or I'll have no choice but to report you and request a force replace. I've never done that before. Your play sucks that bad, Constantine.

You think I'm Scum? Build a goddamn case, then.



Klingoncelt

Seriously this and other posts are going a bit too far.
Hermit has other ways of scumhunting, most of them are reaction testing.
All your AtE at the moment has not increased my perception you are town.
Ignore Hermit if you want, try to scumhunt if you are town.

We are distracting from the game with this stupid drama.

-Fire

Klingon is infuriated, and I actually feel very similar.

Even though she could execute the thought better, nobody has really brought up a case against me or Klingoncelt. A lot of the scumreads are unexplained, either painted my posts as scummy and useless, or Klingon as using AtE which is scummy for her meta. (Which I don't believe at all.)