Mini Normal 1716 - Flavourless Mafia - [Game Over]

[Vedith]

It's okay guys, I'm here now... Just call it GG.

Liger_Zero - Why was it too late to turn BananaCucho around with a replacement?

Mick really isn't scum hunting in this game, just sitting in the side lines with neutral comments.

VOTE: ConManMick

@Mick - what's your current reads?

@Kyubey - Anyone who sparks your radar that could be SK? As it stands I'll go with post #294. It's an opening to vote anyone suspicious that day, as SK he doesn't care who to lynch.
I still need to check through the full voting pattern for this though.

[Vedith]

@Aneninen - Who do you like the look of lynching then?
You're one of the people that didn't add much to day 1 if I may say so. Is it normal for you to play like that?

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At least I did't rushwagon Banana.

Terrible comment.

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Explain how putting someone at 3 votes when it takes 7 to lynch is a quick lynch?
Would you rather no one votes until you're ready?

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I get your point, but it doesn't mean there will be a quick lynch.
The game seems pretty slow overall.

What's your opinion on there being an SK and who would fit this role so far?

I assume your comment earlier is a thought of me and Dupping as the scum pair, right?

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I'll be catching up later.

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@Aneninen - Sell me on Duppin.

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@Cavane - Do you think Mick is scum or do you think a 3rd party killer?
What's your view on 2 deaths last night?

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So now it's 6:3:1.

If we lynch scum over SK then we are (by odds) worse off.
Mick does come across as the most likely scum for me and it's a shame that he's not even defending himself yet.

Only thing with the kills, Micks 53 on Guyett would assume he wouldn't kill him, right?

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@Kyubey - As it's more important to find SK today (Obviously detail if you disagree) who would you point at being SK, if you do suspect anyone of course.
I've never played a full game with Mick, so I currently don't know his meta (Or at least a thin line of it). So it's hard to comment if he would do this kind of thing as SK or not.
I like the fact of post 50 though. Could be worth looking into reactions when I'm home later, if there were any.

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I'm just working with what we have. The fact that there is very little input from others is what makes it hard...
I mean, where is your case on the preferred lynches? Where is anything from you?

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So you took the time to read through my comments (and I would assume the others since your post yesterday) but not the time to add anything.

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Fair enough.

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Welcome.

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@Kyubey - As it's more important to find SK today

@Vedith: Why do you say this? I'm more of a mind with CDB that we need the SK's help at this point.

You are only going by if the SK or scum hit each other. If we lynch scum, the odds are in favor for town to be hit during the night (6 in 7 chance scum hit us, 3 in 4 for SK to hit us).
That's high odds for us to go into day 3 with 4 town vs 2 scum vs 1 SK.

That's keeping in mind if it's not a mis lynch. If it's a mis lynch our odds get better to not lose 2 in the night, but we are still the favored party (5 out of 6 scum hit us, 5 out of 8 SK hit us).

[Vedith]

So where's this case you was going to show?

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Well I'll be on MS tonight so if people feel like asking questions or being productive then we can try and keep the day going.

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I will later.

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389 Is just a stupid assumption.

You are just scratching for sides, but hey, if you die and flip scum that should at least give me some credit so thanks.

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I like my vote on CMM. He has no intention of getting involved. If he's scum or SK then why are we giving him an easy ride?
Aneninen I didn't say I read you as scum.

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I disagree, I think that I had a valid point.
But I'm not going to dabble on it as people are against it.

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I'll post here later when at a PC

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Dear Partner, you need not claim. By claiming I'm out of the lynch poole and even better, I'll get a Nightkill.

If lucky, both factions will target me. But I bet there must be someone else besides us in this town with a cool PR. Or else, this 9:3:1 would be seriously unbalanced.

Why would you not put the Dear Partner section in your Mason thread?

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Great logic there.

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While I've been on here, with completed games and a few I've looked through;

I've never had/seen a Mason thread that is phase only talking.
I've only had/seen 1 game with scum talking thread

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I don't buy Aneninen's claim.

We have evidence of 2 VT's and a BG.
With only 6 roles left for town, are you really saying that 2 of them are masons with a team of 3 scum and a SK?
Leaving 4 roles remaining of VT/PR.

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UNVOTE: Mick
VOTE: muffin

Yeah nothings going to happen for the rest of the day...

[Vedith]

Yeah, town won't be winning this one.

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Well 5 days to decide who to vote for now...

@Dray I am voting Muffin as it stands.

[Vedith]

Thanks

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Returned to check on the game, Evv still hasn't replied to my 413. Now he's replacing out.

Also, welcome, catboi. What causes you to think I’m an alt?

Keeping my vote on

Muffin

Inan.

This is scum with EV.

Okay, go for it... Because he is trying to distance himself, or do you see something else?

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Prodge
How have we not agreed a lynch yet?

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UNVOTE: Who ever it was
I can't keep up with so many replacements but I think I was voting the second Mason?

Intent to hammer then

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VOTE: Performer
That's back to L1.

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VOTE: CMM

I didn't think town yesterday, I don't think town today.

[Vedith]

Prod received...

So who is actually town reading CMM here and why?

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The replacement will have to do a lot to change my mind.

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Sorry everyone. I'm back on now.
So, lets talk about Mario - We should lynch him.

[Vedith]

No, it's so me and my town buddy Fuzzy can win the game...

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I'm the scum counterwagon to Fuzzy if that isn't abundantly clear already.

Explain that to me...

[Vedith]

So what you are saying is that me and Fuzzy are scum?
Yeah I don't see it.

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Congratulations on not seeing yourself as scum with another player?

Thanks, took a lot of effort to see it...

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Well going by the earlier posts I would say town... Cat is more focused on everyone and even thinks CMM as scummy, so as I really think CMM/Mario is scum here I'd push them two apart.
Recently I don't see the same mind set as before but that's most likely because the game is slow.

Why do I think CMM/Mario is scum? I thought from the moment I joined in they had an anti town slot. I originally thought SK and even though most people thought it we ended up lynching Performer who was the SK as they didn't want to lynch the SK - Irony, eh?
I think the push away from his wagon which was looking good was scum de railed. Mario gives me the scum Mario vibe rather than town Mario. So there's that...

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Judging purely on the vote count, it might even be that Fuzzy and Mario are both scum

RC - What's your view on this?

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my view is I don't give a fuck I'm not lynching anyone besides Fuzzy today.

Regardless of what your ambition is in the voting... If we lynch Fuzzy and he flips scum, who else do you think is scum? Or at least suspicious?
What's your view on Mario being his partner... Do you think it's possible for both scum, as I really think that there will be at least 1 scum... The fact that one hasn't been pushed to a lynch could suggest both.

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This game will go down the pot with RC leading.

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I think Vedith not being willing to vote me today shows he's scum.

Who said I'm not willing to vote you?

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I'm not voting anyone this early...
But he's still my top scum read.

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Not willing means that I don't want to.
Not voting yet just means I don't think it needs to be rushed.

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I believe in this arguement. I will take the blame for the loss if Dierfire isn't town.

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After voting with scum...
After defending scum...
Is that all you have to say?

I don't have anything to say apart from you are scum...

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Mario -

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Surprised that RC is still alive...

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I actually couldn't put up with you and RC because you were both boring me...
I would have killed RC in that fact alone.

Mario really is scum.

@RC - Are you in the hood?

[Vedith]

Well at least that confirms it that you are scum, Mario, how do you feel that I can read you like a book?
Your scum game and town are completely different.

VOTE: Mario

However, for you to be pulling this trick would mean that there are 2 scum left.

[Vedith]

I'm at work... Nice try though.

So Mario has already lied about a power role. Yeah he's scum. I knew I was right.

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Btw, anyone should check Marios games... Active Mario (even more so at this stage) is scum Mario.

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Vedith, you managed to post in other games with that time! But not the one in which there was a guilty on you!
You should take it as a compliment that I don't think you're terrible enough to not know what a reaction test is.

Yeah while taking calls inbetween.
If I had a coin everytime someone tried to use this as a reason.
I know what a reaction test is, but it's because you panicked that you decided to change. So if you suddenly changed back to VT, does that really mean that you are the last scum?

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But it isn't though.
Vedith, nobody's buying the "you're scum" charade.
Because I found scum, and you hard-defended that scum.
You're going to have to do a lot for me to ever take my vote off you.

So because scum bussed each other means you're not scum? XD
Get out of here... Everyone knows how often scum bus and that's what you did.
But I'm not going to waste my breathe on you as we both know you are scum.

I'd like thoughts from others.

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mm4's town

Explain?

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Oh, you said you are not scum so that confirms it!
I forgot that's how it works...

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I asked Cat how you were town, not you.
Fucking troll.

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Good, then don't join my games next time...
I ask Cat why you are town for him and you come up with a troll answer.
If you don't like it, don't do it.

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Okay, then I also got a VT role... See how stupid it is? Scum are not going to say that they have a scum role...