Mini 1733: Jurassic Monkey - game over

[MarioManiac4]

One of the things I do remember from my town experience is that it's important to put down votes early because VCA are very useful later games. Even if the votes are just for pressure or something.

I didn't find VCA on the acronyms page of the wiki, could you clarify?

Why is it "from your town experience," specifically? Does your scum experience say something different?

VCA is Vote Count Analysis. It's when you get a bit into the game and you back and plug in who flipped what and see who was on what wagon.

Because as town I like to have people place there votes, so later I can come back and analyze it. If scum don't vote early you can't really pin them on any wagon, hence me encouraging you to vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1317
Guess who the scum was here, 3dicerolling?

[3dicerolling]

One of the things I do remember from my town experience is that it's important to put down votes early because VCA are very useful later games. Even if the votes are just for pressure or something.

I didn't find VCA on the acronyms page of the wiki, could you clarify?

Why is it "from your town experience," specifically? Does your scum experience say something different?

VCA is Vote Count Analysis. It's when you get a bit into the game and you back and plug in who flipped what and see who was on what wagon.

Because as town I like to have people place there votes, so later I can come back and analyze it. If scum don't vote early you can't really pin them on any wagon, hence me encouraging you to vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1317
Guess who the scum was here, 3dicerolling?

I said it's something I like to do as town, scum do fake it sometimes though.

[MarioManiac4]

One of the things I do remember from my town experience is that it's important to put down votes early because VCA are very useful later games. Even if the votes are just for pressure or something.

I didn't find VCA on the acronyms page of the wiki, could you clarify?

Why is it "from your town experience," specifically? Does your scum experience say something different?

VCA is Vote Count Analysis. It's when you get a bit into the game and you back and plug in who flipped what and see who was on what wagon.

Because as town I like to have people place there votes, so later I can come back and analyze it. If scum don't vote early you can't really pin them on any wagon, hence me encouraging you to vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1317
Guess who the scum was here, 3dicerolling?

I said it's something I like to do as town, scum do fake it sometimes though.

That wasn't the point! Luna Fox was a townie!
"the only thing i figured out from that was that diego's town."
And Diego was scum!

[3dicerolling]

One of the things I do remember from my town experience is that it's important to put down votes early because VCA are very useful later games. Even if the votes are just for pressure or something.

I didn't find VCA on the acronyms page of the wiki, could you clarify?

Why is it "from your town experience," specifically? Does your scum experience say something different?

VCA is Vote Count Analysis. It's when you get a bit into the game and you back and plug in who flipped what and see who was on what wagon.

Because as town I like to have people place there votes, so later I can come back and analyze it. If scum don't vote early you can't really pin them on any wagon, hence me encouraging you to vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1317
Guess who the scum was here, 3dicerolling?

I said it's something I like to do as town, scum do fake it sometimes though.

That wasn't the point! Luna Fox was a townie!
"the only thing i figured out from that was that diego's town."
And Diego was scum!

I can't really say much because I haven't read that game and don't know the context of it, but if you do it right, VCA's offer a decent analysis. That I'm sure of.

[The Archmage Ludicrous]

Won't votes that I'm not confident in muddy the waters for VCA? It's not going to be reflective of my true perspective if it's a vote I was arbitrarily pressured into making for VCA, is it?

[Davsto]

Won't votes that I'm not confident in muddy the waters for VCA? It's not going to be reflective of my true perspective if it's a vote I was arbitrarily pressured into making for VCA, is it?

QFT

[MarioManiac4]

Won't votes that I'm not confident in muddy the waters for VCA? It's not going to be reflective of my true perspective if it's a vote I was arbitrarily pressured into making for VCA, is it?

QFT

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[Davsto]

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[Davsto]

oh i got it

[Syndesis]

Could we please crop the quote pyramids if at all possible? Thanks.

[Syndesis]

I already feel like fire's initial reaction is more town than scum, though I think twice I've seen someone dislike the second vote on me without explaining why. Could one of you expand on what specifically bugged you?

That may have been me twice. That vote is poorly supported and directly follows Fire's vote in a wagony, opportunistic manner.

Ice is town and will not be the lynch today.

Care to explain or?

[in response to Ice]
Anyways, I don't know what to think of you, I guess you want to move us out of RVS?
Could be town, unsure.

UNVOTE: Iceninja

UNVOTE: MarioManiac4

VOTE: Firebringer

This smells fishy. I'm not sure I like the precedence of the unvote.

"Precedence of the unvote"? Could you clarify that?


I swear, every time Fire and Ice interact I feel like they're both scum.

[MarioManiac4]

I already feel like fire's initial reaction is more town than scum, though I think twice I've seen someone dislike the second vote on me without explaining why. Could one of you expand on what specifically bugged you?

That may have been me twice. That vote is poorly supported and directly follows Fire's vote in a wagony, opportunistic manner.

Ice is town and will not be the lynch today.

Care to explain or?

They're sticking their head out way too much, in my opinion.

[in response to Ice]
Anyways, I don't know what to think of you, I guess you want to move us out of RVS?
Could be town, unsure.

UNVOTE: Iceninja

UNVOTE: MarioManiac4

VOTE: Firebringer

This smells fishy. I'm not sure I like the precedence of the unvote.

"Precedence of the unvote"? Could you clarify that?


I swear, every time Fire and Ice interact I feel like they're both scum.

[Firebringer]

Can we not quote without adding comments to it, because otherwise why in the hell are you bothering spamming the page?

[MarioManiac4]

Can we not quote without adding comments to it, because otherwise why in the hell are you bothering spamming the page?

I did add a comment?

[Syndesis]

Someone talk to me about Diego?

[MarioManiac4]

Someone talk to me about Diego?

What specifically?

[Firebringer]

Someone talk to me about Diego?

Last game I played with him he is scum.
He did same kind of thing with the whole "I am new or w/e pls forgive my bad play"

[Syndesis]

Someone talk to me about Diego?

What specifically?

The icky vote on Ice.

Spoiler: said vote

Yea that's definitely a misrep of Fire's quote.
VOTE: iceninja

Someone talk to me about Diego?

Last game I played with him he is scum.
He did same kind of thing with the whole "I am new or w/e pls forgive my bad play"

Do you think this is alignment indicative? Also, what do you think of above vote?

[3dicerolling]

Won't votes that I'm not confident in muddy the waters for VCA? It's not going to be reflective of my true perspective if it's a vote I was arbitrarily pressured into making for VCA, is it?

Maybe not if you're are voting just because I ask you to. I guess I'd prefer you to vote when you actually have something to go off of, but I feel like scum are generally more conservative with their vote because they don't want to get caught on wagons.

I already feel like fire's initial reaction is more town than scum, though I think twice I've seen someone dislike the second vote on me without explaining why. Could one of you expand on what specifically bugged you?

That may have been me twice. That vote is poorly supported and directly follows Fire's vote in a wagony, opportunistic manner.

Ice is town and will not be the lynch today.

Care to explain or?

[in response to Ice]
Anyways, I don't know what to think of you, I guess you want to move us out of RVS?
Could be town, unsure.

UNVOTE: Iceninja

UNVOTE: MarioManiac4

VOTE: Firebringer

This smells fishy. I'm not sure I like the precedence of the unvote.

"Precedence of the unvote"? Could you clarify that?

Well, Firebringer unvoted right after Iceninja called out a town read on him, which is IMO kind of scummy.

I swear, every time Fire and Ice interact I feel like they're both scum.

Someone talk to me about Diego?

What do you want to talk about him?

[ICEninja]

Alright guys, do EVERYONE a favor and when you quote someone, please just quote the relevant part of the post. Like this.

Can i ask a question why go for the I'm shit and so bad that I'm a easy mislynch so everyone voting me is scum approach instead of actual competent hunting. I know you're a oldie and might be a little rusty but why go for this approach?

I'm absolutely not. How the hell did you get "I'm so shit, I'm and easy mislynch" from "I have a wagon on me every game, time to find out which one is scum"?

Won't votes that I'm not confident in muddy the waters for VCA? It's not going to be reflective of my true perspective if it's a vote I was arbitrarily pressured into making for VCA, is it?

Who could be confident at this stage? And yet pretty much everyone else is voting. It makes it much easier for people to track your primary suspect over time. Right now all you've contributed is calling something I did "weird" and defend not liking to throw down early votes. Who do you think is MOST LIKELY to be scum right now, and why?

Take a look, for example, at Garmr's vote. It's bad, but at least it helps people read him and learn his alignment. If you're town, you want us to learn your alignment. If you're scum, you absolutely don't. So which role does your play benefit more? You guessed it! Scum! If you're scum go ahead and continue to not vote as we only really want town votes anyway, makes it easier to lynch scum day 1.

Fire definitely lost his townread, by nature of having made an early move then slinking back to the shadows. The rest of his subsequent posts haven't really had much in the way of content to them, except a meta IIoA, and completely lack a vote after an unvote. Why the sudden shift from aggressive voter to not having anything?

I'd really like Diego to come in and post some content.

[Firebringer]

lol at this:

Fire definitely lost his townread, by nature of having made an early move then slinking back to the shadows

I so want your town read back.
I need IT!!!!!



Seriously, your read isn't worth anything if it changes within 2 posts.

[Firebringer]

Do you think this is alignment indicative? Also, what do you think of above vote?

Not really, no.
I don't expect him to be a high performer either way though, regardless of alignment.

[3dicerolling]

oh i got it

Do you have something more to add than just QFT?

[Davsto]

I believe he put the statement infinitely more eloquently than I could. It's easier to quote and say "this is true" than it is to basically restate the entire thing.

[Syndesis]

I'd really like Diego to come in and post some content.

Why Diego specifically?

Well, Firebringer unvoted right after Iceninja called out a town read on him, which is IMO kind of scummy.

Ah. Thanks.

Someone talk to me about Diego?

What do you want to talk about him?

The icky vote on Ice in 20.