Mini 1723: Town of Helen Day 4


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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:10 am

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For the way he was softly scumreading Titus on D1 but distanced himself from the wagon on D2.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:21 am

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Okay, so sell me. Why should I vote him over you?
If I recall, you were defending Titus day 1, to an extent, right?
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:36 am

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Can PB claim?
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:58 am

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VOTE COUNT 3.2

Within the sheriff's station, there was little time until they were all armed. Armed, paranoid, and completely untrustworthy. From what we can piece together, no one slept for the first 73 hours. Eventually they started dropping with exhaustion. And then, began the end.


Prolapsed Brain (3): Guilty Lion, Flubbernugget, pistachi0n,
vonflare (1): Prolapsed Brain,
Flubbernugget (0):
GuiltyLion (0):
Vedith (0):
pistachi0n (0):
A Simple Plan (0):

Not Voting (3):A Simple Plan, Vedith, vonflare,

With 7 alive, it is 4 to Lynch or No Lynch.

It is currently Day 3.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2015-11-05 14:00:00)
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:33 pm

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Ah not sure how I feel about that essentially naked vote from pistachi0n. I haven't had much time to revisit this game in the past few days, but PB gathered some scrutiny on D1 and was 'shielded' to a degree by Titus. I wanted to put some pressure on him to start the day and he didn't wow me with a one-liner about how vonflare is scummy, when that was also Titus' main desired lynch.

I don't have much time today, but tomorrow I might go through Titus' ISO and highlight the parts where she soft defends him in a way that thinks they might be partners. And his reaction to my claim was pretty scummy as well, IMO.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:56 am

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So, GL talk to me. Have you played with Titus?
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:02 am

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Okay, first there's this interaction, between conftown and confscum:

In post 176, Rob14 wrote:If Titus ever flips scum, we lynch P_B next for sure.


In post 177, Titus wrote:@Rob, why are you drawing relationship tells between me and PB if they are useless Preflip?


Next, Titus' read progression on PB throughout D1:
In post 237, Titus wrote:As for PB or Pistachio, I could do either of those.

Scumread

In post 256, Titus wrote:What's the difference between PB, saying he'll scumhunt once the drama is gone versus GL saying he'll scumhunt when he feels like it?

Redirecting focus from PB to me.

In post 295, Titus wrote:Rob's a theory poster like me. I highly doubt he's scum here. Sure, I can't be one hundred percent certain as little things nag me (I don't get his stance on why PB is worse than GL and little logical inconsistencies like that)

Again, trying to get Rob to focus me instead of PB.

In post 348, Titus wrote:VOTE: PB

Fine with this now as the specified time for PB has passed.

This feels like a distancing vote, as the PB wagon wasn't going anywhere at this point. It's followed up with a vote on Flubber basically 100 posts later, and PB never posted in between.

Here's another couple of posts from a conftown, SW:
In post 591, SilverWolf wrote:PB is lining up lynches. If either Pista or Titus flips scum, he's got me set up to be lynched next.


In post 598, SilverWolf wrote:Jesus Fucking Christ.

I want [PB] lynched ASAP.


Immediately followed by:
In post 599, Titus wrote:@SW, why does PB asking about your meta make you want to lynch him?


In post 612, Titus wrote:Your hypocrisy in argument regarding his recent posting, your revival of PB. I was there for days. Rob and I pushed hard for it. It was a dead wagon. Now you're just trying to kill wgeurts wagon. If you felt PB was scum, you would have jumped on sooner.

Look through your ISO can we tell if associative reads are bad (only for PB but not you or Vedith), quick fast reads are bad (only for PB, and that was in response to my question of course they aren't fleshed, they are gut), asking for meta is wrong (only for PB, not Rob when he's asked us multiple times).

You get defensive and jump down the throat of anyone accusing you as scum. You have two sets of standards. One for you and one for everyone else.

That hypocrisy is why you've made a PB wagon wholly unappetizing.

This speaks for itself. SW (conftown) starting to push PB makes PB not an appealing lynch to Titus, despite her 'scumread' of him earlier.

In post 851, Titus wrote:4) PB, The only thing scummy from him is the broken promise but he's here when pressure is on him.

Now he's a townread once Rob/SW are starting to push him.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:04 am

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If you look at PB's read on Titus v. SW, he never said if they were both scum or both town, only that they "share" an alignment. Pretty convenient position for scum, eh? If SW gets lynched and flips town, well now Titus is town and he doesn't want to lynch her. If Titus is lynched and flips scum, now SW was bussing and he can get a mislynch on her.

@Vedith - this is my first game with Titus.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:35 am

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Intent to hammer. please claim.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:05 am

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In post 1126, Vedith wrote:Okay, so sell me. Why should I vote him over you?
If I recall, you were defending Titus day 1, to an extent, right?


I thought Titus and Silver Wolf were in the same faction. I did say that if one if them were scum, it was Titus.

But now I know for a fact Titus was scum. Which makes the interactions with PB more important.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:26 pm

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Prodding Prolapsed Brain and Flubbernugget.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:24 pm

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Sorry guys. I had a bad reaction to the antibiotics the doctor gave me. I'm finally home, but I'm fucking exhausted. I'd rather not replace unless I have to, but I can't guarantee I'll be around until Tuesday because, if I'm well enough, I'm supposed to be taking a midterm tomorrow. I'm gonna take care of some modding stuff and go to bed.

If you wanna hammer, do it, but I've got suspicions that I'd rather delve a little deeper into.
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:30 pm

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I don't see any rush to hammer, especially since PB hasn't really posted any defense at all. Take your time and feel better, ASP.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:08 pm

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Weekend over now. So lets see what PB says.
Unless anyone wants to discuss anything?
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:58 pm

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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:17 pm

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If we didn't have 10 days left I would have just voted to save Jingles the trouble...
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:30 am

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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:17 am

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Jingles prods always make me feel warm and fuzzy inside

I'm at school all day today so reading this game will be my procrastination from the research project I'm way over my head with
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:44 am

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Betcha pb is fleeing under pressure of being scum
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:46 am

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Oh i thought I had like 5 pages to read

Well I dont mind lynching the pb slot
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:47 am

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In post 1143, Flubbernugget wrote:Betcha pb is fleeing under pressure of being scum


um he got banned
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:31 am

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wait really
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:32 am

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In post 1146, Flubbernugget wrote:AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wait really


yes really
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:33 am

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Errr he was an alt

Holy shit that's not actually funny I'm sorry
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:34 am

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yep
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