Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

[Jeanne11]

So you don't want to be manipulated again, but are perfectly fine with being coaxed by her into lynching the farm head. :/

[Jeanne11]

I had counted on you two helping me find scum, that's why I invited you to a farm. Now you're both turning against that?

[Ranger]

basically led us to believe she force ended the day without giving us preparation time, ie probably no lynch

For the record: I'm nearly positive BM is scum for things like this.

The question of the third is mainly whether wgeurts or RR fit as the scumbuddy better.

I very much hate the argument between Titus and Jeanne, because both seem town to me.

[Suzune]

I had counted on you two helping me find scum, that's why I invited you to a farm. Now you're both turning against that?

I believe I said, I would give you a chance. Did you not read that?

[Suzune]

Part of me thinks you are merely wounded town Jeanne

[Titus]

pistachi seems scummy to me.

I got the opposite impression: pistachi0n seems to be the only town player on your wagon.

Between that (LQ), and the Titus wagon, we probably have the entire scumteam.

{FireKari, Elbirn, Jeanne, Titus, Suzune} are

very

strongly town.
{Klingoncelt, pistachi0n} are weaker town.
BRantz stands at null.
{LicketyQuickety, Blackest Magic, wgeurts, Reasonably Rational} are all scumreads.

Why is Jeanne town?

[Suzune]

I'm just going to toss this out there. When we were chosen to join the private topic, it said we had been invited to the strategy table. Random strangers would not be invited to the strategy table on the battlefield, therefore, i think it cannot be a mafia ability. hm, but her reaction was so...but logically speaking it makes sense.

[Titus]

Suzune, never clear or scumfirm based on ability. I had a doc inventor as scum. Used it to sail for days.

[Ranger]

Why is Jeanne town?

I've seen absolutely nothing to make me think Jeanne is scum, and the whole interaction with you has looked insanely town to me, Titus. I don't even get why you're not townreading Jeanne.

[Suzune]

Suzune, never clear or scumfirm based on ability. I had a doc inventor as scum. Used it to sail for days.

I know, but thematically it makes sense. Theme reads are meaningless though.

[Titus]

Why is Jeanne town?

I've seen absolutely nothing to make me think Jeanne is scum, and the whole interaction with you has looked insanely town to me, Titus. I don't even get why you're not townreading Jeanne.

She's saying trust no one while buddying me like crazy...that looks town to you?

[Ranger]

I trust no one without undeniable proof. So far, only one player gave me solid proof.

This is the first mention of trust in her iso.
That player was you, no?

So yes.
It does.

[Titus]

I trust no one without undeniable proof. So far, only one player gave me solid proof.

This is the first mention of trust in her iso.
That player was you, no?

So yes.
It does.

Read the rest. She said solid after that so no undeniable proof I am town fhpov.

However, let's suppose your interpretation is correct. What player with undeniable proof of my towniness votes me for suspecting them?

[Ranger]

What player with undeniable proof of my towniness votes me for suspecting them?

A player who reconsiders their stance on what undeniable proof is.

[LicketyQuickety]

@Jeanne, Cultivate but never forget failsafe procedures.

@Wgerts, My accusations of LQ role fishing stand. A play that supposes dumb town (which you do on LQ) is several layers of ewww and white knight. Forgetting who is voting you is usually, but not always a scum indicator. Him not knowing AUA is pretty bad. Either he has no attention to relevant details or is scum.

Glad you pointed this out because yes, my attention to relevant details suck balls. I go about completely different ways at reading people.

[Suzune]

Glad you pointed this out because yes, my attention to relevant details suck balls. I go about completely different ways at reading people.

Curiosity killed the cat, so how do you go about it?

[Titus]

What player with undeniable proof of my towniness votes me for suspecting them?

A player who reconsiders their stance on what undeniable proof is.

That's not possible. Either proof is deniable or it's not...

[Titus]

@Jeanne, Cultivate but never forget failsafe procedures.

@Wgerts, My accusations of LQ role fishing stand. A play that supposes dumb town (which you do on LQ) is several layers of ewww and white knight. Forgetting who is voting you is usually, but not always a scum indicator. Him not knowing AUA is pretty bad. Either he has no attention to relevant details or is scum.

Glad you pointed this out because yes, my attention to relevant details suck balls. I go about completely different ways at reading people.

Well how do you read people? What are your stances? I asked like 3 times.

[Ranger]

Titus, Jeanne:

Do you both have your scumread of LicketyQuickety stand?

If so, you can table going at each others' throats and lynch him first.

[LicketyQuickety]

You want to vote me. I know I am town, so in my eyes, you are voting a townie for the lulz.

K, like... your argument that anyone can claim town...

Like, maybe rethoughts on that or something?

[LicketyQuickety]

@Jeanne, Cultivate but never forget failsafe procedures.

@Wgerts, My accusations of LQ role fishing stand. A play that supposes dumb town (which you do on LQ) is several layers of ewww and white knight. Forgetting who is voting you is usually, but not always a scum indicator. Him not knowing AUA is pretty bad. Either he has no attention to relevant details or is scum.

Glad you pointed this out because yes, my attention to relevant details suck balls. I go about completely different ways at reading people.

Well how do you read people? What are your stances? I asked like 3 times.

I'm reading through the thread now. I don't exactly know how to put into words how I read people. Just know its not conventional.

[Ranger]

Either proof is deniable or it's not...

I learned long ago that such black and white thinking never ends well, especially when it comes to projecting it onto others.

If I said 'undeniable proof', it would not actually be 100% beyond-all-reasonable-doubt undeniable proof. I can see myself easily second-guessing my assumption that it was undeniable proof. If I can doubt it, so can someone else.

[Titus]

@Jeanne, Cultivate but never forget failsafe procedures.

@Wgerts, My accusations of LQ role fishing stand. A play that supposes dumb town (which you do on LQ) is several layers of ewww and white knight. Forgetting who is voting you is usually, but not always a scum indicator. Him not knowing AUA is pretty bad. Either he has no attention to relevant details or is scum.

Glad you pointed this out because yes, my attention to relevant details suck balls. I go about completely different ways at reading people.

Well how do you read people? What are your stances? I asked like 3 times.

I'm reading through the thread now. I don't exactly know how to put into words how I read people. Just know its not conventional.

Try. Please. I am not a telepath. If you're town, help me help you.

[Titus]

Either proof is deniable or it's not...

I learned long ago that such black and white thinking never ends well, especially when it comes to projecting it onto others.

If I said 'undeniable proof', it would not actually be 100% beyond-all-reasonable-doubt undeniable proof. I can see myself easily second-guessing my assumption that it was undeniable proof. If I can doubt it, so can someone else.

Some black and white thinking is bad.

Yet, black is black. 2 plus 2 = 4 unless pregnancy is involved. Undeniable is undeniable.

I don't revisit definitions.

Jeanne isn't confscum. Someone *cough* needs to investigate her tonight.

[Titus]

Titus, Jeanne:

Do you both have your scumread of LicketyQuickety stand?

If so, you can table going at each others' throats and lynch him first.

Ok.

VOTE: LQ

Wagon on LQ is all town anyway and he's giving me nothing.