Mini 1733: Jurassic Monkey - game over

[Firebringer]

This lynch on me is bad and you should feel bad. ICE is the only one who I can think of that has decent reasoning, the rest of you are just banding on the easiest wagon. Shame on you.

We love you too Davsto.

[Davsto]

ilu

[3dicerolling]

This lynch on me is bad and you should feel bad. ICE is the only one who I can think of that has decent reasoning, the rest of you are just banding on the easiest wagon. Shame on you.

No. Your super inconsistent votes, pis poor reasoning and general lack of anything helpful is what has everyone on your wagon. Stop trying to AtE.

[Scorpious]

F*ck it..

Intent!!

[Davsto]

Someone sounds a tad survivalistic, don't you think?

VT. Go on. Do it before you get some suspicion for it, Scorpius.

[Davsto]

This lynch on me is bad and you should feel bad. ICE is the only one who I can think of that has decent reasoning, the rest of you are just banding on the easiest wagon. Shame on you.

No. Your super inconsistent votes, pis poor reasoning and general lack of anything helpful is what has everyone on your wagon. Stop trying to AtE.

Funny how he doesn't give reasons until pressured to do so.

[3dicerolling]

This lynch on me is bad and you should feel bad. ICE is the only one who I can think of that has decent reasoning, the rest of you are just banding on the easiest wagon. Shame on you.

No. Your super inconsistent votes, pis poor reasoning and general lack of anything helpful is what has everyone on your wagon. Stop trying to AtE.

Funny how he doesn't give reasons until pressured to do so.

I gave reasoning for your wagon a long time ago.

[Scorpious]

Someone sounds a tad survivalistic, don't you think?

VT. Go on. Do it before you get some suspicion for it, Scorpius.

I get suspicion for everything.. no different..

VOTE: Davsto

[Davsto]

This lynch on me is bad and you should feel bad. ICE is the only one who I can think of that has decent reasoning, the rest of you are just banding on the easiest wagon. Shame on you.

No. Your super inconsistent votes, pis poor reasoning and general lack of anything helpful is what has everyone on your wagon. Stop trying to AtE.

Funny how he doesn't give reasons until pressured to do so.

I gave reasoning for your wagon a long time ago.

Quotes or it didn't happen.

[Firebringer]

Scum Davsto is dead.
We can all celebrate.

Davsto get the keg!

[3dicerolling]

I'm still not sure about the firebringer/garmr love fest. I feel like one of them is scum trying to hide under the town one, but I'm not sure which one entirely yet. After analyzing many responses and recent posts I'm leaning town on both Ice and Archmage. Looking back, I did find a few people who aroused suspicion in my mind.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Garmr

Normal RVS.

1) Is anyone in a non-American time zone, or for other reasons posts in odd hours?
2) Is anyone here brand new or otherwise unfamiliar with how the game is played here at mafiascum.net?
3) What kind of level of activity should we expect from you?

1) No.
2) No.
3. Inactivity interspersed with frenetic bursts of activity.

Just answers the question.

Ice is town and will not be the lynch today.

Are you townreading him for is questions? Why do you sound so certain? Why haven't you answered other people who asked you this?

He asks a question, which initially seems useful here, but there's not really any follow up.

Is your vote on Garmr legit or remnants of RVS?

Remnants of RVS.

Says it's a remnant of RVS, but does not really contend to change his vote or opinion.

I'm not sure I like the precedence of the unvote.

What do you mean by this?

Syndesis:

Seems to be tunnelling Diego a bit. I'd have to throw a light town-reading, nothing really suspicious that I saw.

Townslip or nah?

Or they literally didn't read the rules.

First part he asks me a question, which was already answered, so it seems pistacion isn't reading or just missed it. He also tries to immediately discredit a possible townread, which pings scummy to me.

Scumread on Mario, he's playing lazily.

VOTE: MarioManiac

Hypocritical vote from a person with no work put into his posts. He asks a few questions, but doesn't really follow up with it in any way.

Spoiler:

Lol i knew syndnious was innocent child before the game started because the mod sent me his role pm .

Nice, we've started with the mod errors early.
VOTE: MonkeyMan mutiny

Nothing particularly scummy, just RVS.

1) See my sig. Clocks going back tonight though. GMT, woot.
2) I'm experienced enough to not be a buffoon some of the time.
3) Changeable. Like, really changeable.

Answers the question.

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Randomness at its finest.

I believe he put the statement infinitely more eloquently than I could. It's easier to quote and say "this is true" than it is to basically restate the entire thing.

This doesn't really make much sense.

I believe he put the statement infinitely more eloquently than I could. It's easier to quote and say "this is true" than it is to basically restate the entire thing.

Hi. Got anything to add?

Not really. It's page four. I often struggle to get much early on.

I get not having anything early, but he should have something legit at this point in the game.

I'll have a look in the morning, see if a fresh mindset makes a difference. Don't hold your breath.

Let's see what the fresh mindset is.

@farside - that colour is really hard to read on the dark scheme. Is there a way you could change it? Thanks.

Asking for change in color.

@Davsto: you've posted quite a few times, but have contributed next to nothing content wise. Gun to your head, you have to lynch someone RIGHT NOW. Who and why?

Firebringer because I don't have confident enough reads to lynch anyone, but I can't read Firebringer at all, so getting his alignment straight early on is useful.

That would literally only be if you forced me,

though. I would rather just wait until the end of the day where I have more solid reads with more to go off. I can be quite slow early game, sometimes.

Postpones his reads again. He says he would lynch firebringer, but is shows extreme resistance in the bold statement.

How exactly is playing stressful?

Like when you're speedlynched despite obviously being town and you point out obvious scum with plenty of reasons but you're still not listened to

Points out how mafia is stressful. Correct, but no particularly useful.

Yeah, I know, I'm joking don't worry about it

Not really sure what to say about this except it's post 115 and there still isn't much content from Davsto.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... to_Emotion

Informing Archmage, who didn't know the term.

Uck. I cause more problems than good in real life, why should it be any different anywhere else?

You would think Dav would have more of an opinion if he was going to quote this.

We don't have that phrase in America, and over here being pissed means being extremely angry.

This is how I'm aware of it as a Brit
pissed = drunk
pissed off = angry
taking the piss = being unreasonable
taking the piss out of = mocking, making fun of

Not really sure why he responded to this, it seems just like mindless filler.

Oh man, I'd love to hear an argument that I haven't heard a thousand times.

I'm often slow early game. You using that as an excuse to jump on my growing wagon does yourself no favours to the suspicions I already have, thanks.

Your wagon is barely growing, so why are you so panicked? And even if you start slow, you should still have at least 1 town and 1 scum read at 10 pages in.

I cannot read Davsto and will be looking elsewhere.

Really?

Whoa. Whoa. He has suspicions! And a 4th excuse for no content.

So if you've had suspicions why have you not posted about them?

Because I don't have the effort right now. I have to have food in a bit; I'll come back after that and enlighten you.

Davsto has put off actually doing stuff many time and it's kind of annoying. All he has so far is pretty much filler.

UNVOTE: Firebringer

VOTE: Pistacion

I'm going to wait until I can get a better read on Fire as some of his recent posts kind of tip me off as town, but I'm sure there is a scum between him and Garmr. I'm also leaning scum on Pistacion and Davsto because of there general uselessness and lack of content.

Now Garmr's post

Spoiler:

I don't really like 3dice rolling at the moment. Something about him makes me feel like his scum. The fact that his parking his vote on fire yet yet hasn't really pushed fire or expanded on his fire vote is really bad. The only interaction after the fire vote was sparked when fire chastised ice for being dumb. 3dice twisted it around to make it look like fire was pushing ice. Then just stats that stupidity is a scum trait as well as town trait after. Which is kinda weird since those two post put together feels like he wants fire to push ice.

I can accept some of this logic. I was holding my vote on him because I was pretty iffy due to his reactions toward me, but like I said, his recent posts throw me off; however, this is a blatant misrep of what I said. I said stupidity is a universal trait (both town and scum) and Fire disagreed. I asked him to point out a case where it's only for town, and he did not respond.

But other than the fire thing it feels like most of his posts are throw away statements. When he does question me through this statement comes off as trying to paint me with a scummy brush

Um no, that's you. Right now.

No, I read it correctly. I was hoping you'd unvote or attack me in another way in order to attempt to cement your vote but alas you're more likely town based on that response alone.

Unvote

.

Garmr seemed excited that he knew who would be confirmed town.

Maybe that excitement came from already having a solid N1 target?

Vote Garmr

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Ice I was excited because I got actually play instead of not being able to which was looking like the case before. I don't like the bolded comment here it seems like your hunting for a power role this early. Town roles may target the innocent child as well and i think anyone would of thought of this. I feel like this is the wrong attitude to scum hunt for town so I draw the conclusion that your scum.

Looking back, this really makes no sense at all. If Ice was grasping at straws I the beginning, this is really grasping for something. I also feel like garmr is playing rather defensive.

But when I follow it up and ask why his not voting me when pushing . He then tries to discredit my read on ice but even after all are convosation he won't even mention a town or scum read. I even tried to provoke him into slipping a vote on me expecting him to take a stance either side. But he continued to remain passive.

Just no. I didn't vote you because I was voting fire, who I wanted to pressure at the time. At that point in the game, I was asking Ice and Arch some questions, trying to provoke a town or scum response. Obviously, by the beginning of this post, you see what my opinion is. Just because I didn't say a read, does not necessarily mean I was not formulating some. And by passive do you mean voting someone that isn't you?

Dude your taking everything ice at face value with out looking at intentions that's not a good way to scum hunt also no vote on me yet your pushing me whers the pressure

No, I'm looking at the true intentions of his post and not hard tunneling him, and I'm quite fine with where my vote is now.

Actually looking at it now he got involved with both me and ice yet didn't form a stance on either of us while being active and interacting with both of us is a big nono. Yet his quick to point out others who haven't commented on us.

Yes, I was pointing out others because I want them to get involved because its difficult to form a read when they are not giving opinions. Yes, I did have a stance, but I guess I was not extremely clear with it at the time.

I believe he put the statement infinitely more eloquently than I could. It's easier to quote and say "this is true" than it is to basically restate the entire thing.

Hi. Got anything to add?

Not really. It's page four. I often struggle to get much early on.

You don't have any opinion on fire or ninja?

VOTE: 3dice rolling.

If I didn't think only one of firebringer/garmr was scum, I would say this is seems a lot like chainsaw defense.

@Fire, I'm not taking your word for it that Garmr is town just because you've played with town Garmr before. Unless you can show me a solid case that doesn't involve me reading full games of him (I don't do that unless absolutely necessary), possibly where he does something explicit as Garmr!town that Garmr!scum never does or vice versa, your meta read is meaningless to my read of Garmr. For all I know you two could be scum buddies.

^^^^I don't know how to say this any better. I don't really know most people's meta (most in this game are new to me), so if you reference meta I won't understand and won't be able to take you seriously.

Scorpious is a slight town read right now based off his strong comeback. I'm null for everyone else.

In spoiler number 2 Davsto is my iso of you.

[3dicerolling]

Scum Davsto is dead.
We can all celebrate.

Davsto get the keg!

I really hope so. If not

@Davsto - If you flip town, who do you want us to pursue tomorrow?

[Davsto]

Firebringer. His posting style is oddly similar to scum Fire.

[Firebringer]

Davsto ;(

[Firebringer]

Well on one hand if Davsto is town, he just ensured I survived the night!!!

On the other hand if he is scum, well I might die?
Who cares, we got scum!!!!

Not but srs, but Dav was scum

[MarioManiac4]

Wait.
you guys lynched davsto?
really?

[Firebringer]

Wait.
you guys lynched davsto?
really?

So now you are saying you had a strong town read on him?

[MarioManiac4]

Wait.
you guys lynched davsto?
really?

So now you are saying you had a strong town read on him?

No I'm saying there were better options for the day.
I just noticed the deadline was in 2 days which does admittedly make the lynch the best option at the end.
We should've wagoned Scorpious though.

[Garmr]

Last second speed wagons at the end of the day are always bad.

[Davsto]

Way to generalise.

[MarioManiac4]

Last second speed wagons at the end of the day are always bad.

-Garmr, 2015, after leading the Davsto wagon

[Davsto]

Dammit, Mario, I was going to point out the hypocrisy!

[Garmr]

Last second speed wagons at the end of the day are always bad.

-Garmr, 2015, after leading the Davsto wagon

Dav wasn't a speed wagon in the last day.

[Davsto]

So yeah I proved you wrong and was waiting to see how you responded before deciding whether to vote you or not.

VOTE: dave

I mean should I even argue as to how crap this vote is?

"I pointed out Davsto was wrong" (he didn't)
"was waiting to see how you responded before voting" are you shitting me

[MarioManiac4]

Last second speed wagons at the end of the day are always bad.

-Garmr, 2015, after leading the Davsto wagon

Dav wasn't a speed wagon in the last day.

If so where the fuck did that comment come from?