Open 616: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[lilith2013]

Vote count Day 1.5

Players alive: 13

Players needed to lynch: 7

Apricity

- 1 - duppin - (L-6)

DiamondSentinel

- 1 - lilith2013 - (L-6)

Diego1487

- 2 - Apricity, Not_Mafia - (L-5)

itlepip

- 1 - Sharky5x - (L-6)

My Other Head Is Scum

- 1 - A Simple Plan - (L-6)

Not_Mafia

- 1 - Diego1487 - (L-6)

Sharky5x

- 4 - randomidget, itlepip, DiamondSentinel, My Other Head Is Scum - (L-3)

Players not voting: The_Jester, Wanderer-nl

Mod notes

Not_Mafia has been prodded

Then directed towards sharky:

You say scummy things, but you are also working to help town, it seems.

Why are you voting him if you think he is working to help town?

Why were you voting him*, as you just changed your vote.

Please answer this too.

[Randomnamechange]

I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

This I 100% disagree with, at this point if I were scum diamond would be the top people to bring to lylo with me.

Only if he is town. I doubt scum will wamt to risk bringing hom into LyLo. From fire and Ice experience, opposing scum and one toen alive normally leads to town win or scum teams drawing.

[Armageddon]

Vote count Day 1.6

Players alive: 13

Players needed to lynch: 7

Apricity

- 1 - duppin - (L-6)

DiamondSentinel

- 1 - lilith2013 - (L-6)

Diego1487

- 1 - Not_Mafia - (L-6)

itlepip

- 1 - Sharky5x - (L-6)

My Other Head Is Scum

- 2 - A Simple Plan, DiamondSentinel - (L-5)

Not_Mafia

- 1 - Diego1487 - (L-6)

Sharky5x

- 3 - randomidget, itlepip, My Other Head Is Scum - (L-4)

Players not voting: Apricity, The_Jester, Wanderer-nl

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

Why? Are you planning to kill him?

[itlepip]

I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

This I 100% disagree with, at this point if I were scum diamond would be the top people to bring to lylo with me.

Only if he is town. I doubt scum will wamt to risk bringing hom into LyLo. From fire and Ice experience, opposing scum and one toen alive normally leads to town win or scum teams drawing.

Are you really suggesting that we don't lynch scum here? You are saying that you think the diamond is scum, and because of that he will be NKed so we should leave him alive???

[duppin]

Diamond, I'm honestly not entirely sure what your point is. I don't post a lot day 1, that much is true but I don't understand your point about me "hopping on your wagon." You said you wouldn't post during RVS, so I forced you to get us out of it. Anyway,

Okay, I'm more or less caught up now. Sorry for the delay.

I have Itlepip, Lilith, and MOTIS as town. Slight town on Jester and Diamond. Duppin sitting between slight town and null. Null on ASP, Not_Mafia, and Wanderer. Scum lean on Random. I need to take another look at Sharky and Diego.

Posting my current notes on Sharky and Diego so I can come back to it later.

Spoiler: Sharky and Diego

Diego1487: scum? Asking itle whether his vote was serious when it’s the 3rd post. Omguses lilith’s switched RVS vote on him. 159 is fine, but…how many votes on Diamond is that now? Switches vote in 214 but still questions Diamond. 249: how about your own? 252: where is this?

Sharky5x: scum? Jumped on Not_Mafia wagon without question on the 2nd post. Votes Lilith for RVSing so much. I like his 42, I would’ve asked that as well. Thinks it’s odd that so many voted for Diego (me, Jester, Not_Mafia) and thinks it might just have been a stupid town thing. Not sure what to think about 88—he justifies a bit too much. 144 is scum or careless defensive town. I like 221. Reaction to pressure in 265 and 272 is pretty bad. Seems to be why itle voted him. He’s got 3 votes now. Explain 281--idgi? After MOTIS—he has 4 votes. Says his bad reaction was due to irl reasons. 305 is fine.

Please for the love of god, stop ignoring me.

[duppin]

Wait actuall you kinda answered my question. I apologise.

[duppin]

I'd like you to explain your read on Random though.

[DiamondSentinel]

Scum has done that to me before when I was town. ^_^

Eww. Self-meta is scummy.

That's not self-meta, dumbass. That's personal experience. Self-Mega is "when I refuse to vote during d1/rvs, I'm always town" (which is admittedly not true)

[DiamondSentinel]

Vote count Day 1.5

Players alive: 13

Players needed to lynch: 7

Apricity

- 1 - duppin - (L-6)

DiamondSentinel

- 1 - lilith2013 - (L-6)

Diego1487

- 2 - Apricity, Not_Mafia - (L-5)

itlepip

- 1 - Sharky5x - (L-6)

My Other Head Is Scum

- 1 - A Simple Plan - (L-6)

Not_Mafia

- 1 - Diego1487 - (L-6)

Sharky5x

- 4 - randomidget, itlepip, DiamondSentinel, My Other Head Is Scum - (L-3)

Players not voting: The_Jester, Wanderer-nl

Mod notes

Not_Mafia has been prodded

Then directed towards sharky:

You say scummy things, but you are also working to help town, it seems.

Why are you voting him if you think he is working to help town?

Why were you voting him*, as you just changed your vote.

Please answer this too.

Because working to help town on D1 isn't a bad move by scum. It can give them town-cred, and make them be ignored more. Now, typically it's more useful in a game with an investigative role, but it can still cause people to pass over him in future reads.

[Randomnamechange]

I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

Why? Are you planning to kill him?

Might be.

I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

This I 100% disagree with, at this point if I were scum diamond would be the top people to bring to lylo with me.

Only if he is town. I doubt scum will wamt to risk bringing hom into LyLo. From fire and Ice experience, opposing scum and one toen alive normally leads to town win or scum teams drawing.

Are you really suggesting that we don't lynch scum here? You are saying that you think the diamond is scum, and because of that he will be NKed so we should leave him alive???

I'm not convinced but there is enough of a chance he is scum won't risk it.

[The_Jester]

Diamond, is that why you became so active when your wagon dissolved, despite claiming you'll be of no use few pages back? To gain towncred and avoid getting so close to being lynched again?

[The_Jester]

Scum has done that to me before when I was town. ^_^

I really don't understand why a town person would feel the need to say something like this.

Of course scum wouldn't try to buddy you if you were scum. It looks like you're trying hard to create a lingual connection between you and the word "town".

[DiamondSentinel]

Jester, these accusations are getting more and more ridiculous. You aren't even asking questions, just accusing me of being scum.

VOTE: The_Jester

Next time, instead of just wildly accusing people of being scummy, how about you ask questions.

[The_Jester]

Next time, instead of freaking out and trying to lecture people, actually respond like a townie would do.

VOTE: Diamond

You can die now.

[DiamondSentinel]

Reaction tests are shit. But it seems you don't realize that.


You'll see though. You will all see.

[Sharky5x]

I can see newtown!Diamond acting this way, but I can also see newscum!Diamond acting this way.
;-;

Reaction tests are shit. But it seems you don't realize that.
You'll see though. You will all see.

Could you elaborate what this means, please.

[DiamondSentinel]

Jester's obvious reaction test at me.

[itlepip]

Jester's obvious reaction test at me.

If it was obvious then why did you OMGUS it? Are reaction tests scummy?

[Diego1487]

Diego1487: scum? Asking itle whether his vote was serious when it’s the 3rd post.

This is a dead horse...reread what I've written about it, nothing has changed.

Omguses lilith’s switched RVS vote on him.

This was a joke. Seems like you're focusing alot on RVS on page 16.

159 is fine, but…how many votes on Diamond is that now?

I knew exactly how many votes he had, and I wanted pressure and answers.

Switches vote in 214 but still questions Diamond.

Again, I wanted answers...scummy?!

249: how about your own?

Really?? Do you read 159

252: where is this?

Nervous 81 Whiteknighting all day...until recently when he's received pressure because of it...funny how that works out.

[Diego1487]

And then on top of that you invite one of your scum reads?! Why?

[Sharky5x]

Whiteknighting all day...until recently when he's received pressure because of it...funny how that works out.

None of the votes on me are there for whiteknighting Diamond, that's rather weak.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Well, when [someone] posted my wagon, I noticed that he was on there, and hadn't hardly participated. (kinda ironic that he voted me for not participating)

That's just what drew my attention.

You were basically refusing to participate, he is lurking, both not good, but 2 different things.

This I 100% disagree with, at this point if I were scum diamond would be the top people to bring to lylo with me.

This depends. he's a perfect setup kill as it stands (if the killers aren't raising suspicion to him). Odd comment to make none the less.

Only if he is town. I doubt scum will wamt to risk bringing hom into LyLo. From fire and Ice experience, opposing scum and one toen alive normally leads to town win or scum teams drawing.

Yeah, this is where you are wrong. If he makes it to Lylo, he will be labelled as scum very easily going by opinions of today (which can obviously change)

Why? Are you planning to kill him?

Keep up the effort NM!

Might be.

A double fakearoo?... I doubt it, a single fakearoo.

that why you became so active when your wagon dissolved, despite claiming you'll be of no use few pages back? To gain towncred and avoid getting so close to being lynched again?

Yup, his views have completely changed. I still think scum, and FB seems really busy lately so I don't even know why he's reading him as scum.

Jester, these accusations are getting more and more ridiculous. You aren't even asking questions, just accusing me of being scum.

VOTE: The_Jester

Next time, instead of just wildly accusing people of being scummy, how about you ask questions.

You are just voting anyone who points at you. It's a standard way to spread distraction.

-Side note. I'll be on this account for a little while tonight.

-Vedith

[A Simple Plan]

I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

Why? Are you planning to kill him?

Might be.

I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

This I 100% disagree with, at this point if I were scum diamond would be the top people to bring to lylo with me.

Only if he is town. I doubt scum will wamt to risk bringing hom into LyLo. From fire and Ice experience, opposing scum and one toen alive normally leads to town win or scum teams drawing.

Are you really suggesting that we don't lynch scum here? You are saying that you think the diamond is scum, and because of that he will be NKed so we should leave him alive???

I'm not convinced but there is enough of a chance he is scum won't risk it.

Based on imbedded quotes and on that last line (if he's got a high chance of scum, why no vote?), I don't see much town motivation. Why are you so interested in diamond being a NK target if you also think he's scum?

VOTE: Random

374 Objection! Leading the witness. Err, I mean, that's a leading question with an obvious answer. Did you really expect to gain anything from that? Still scum reading the hydra btw, but I like my vote on Random RN.

@Diamond, re 380: Does that mean that you're okay with lurking, if people with more than ten posts get called on for inactivity but I don't even though this one makes, I think five?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

374 Objection! Leading the witness. Err, I mean, that's a leading question with an obvious answer. Did you really expect to gain anything from that? Still scum reading the hydra btw, but I like my vote on Random RN.

He was talking about scum being on the wagon, but implied the other scum team rather than his own.
I wanted to know his opinion on bussing. Not much to that.

-Vedith