Mini 1741: Day 3

[Zulfy]

Keeping track of my scumpings.

[Jake from State Farm]

, and I was already not liking

But I'm such a likable guy.

[Jake from State Farm]

But uhhh why not just jump into what was already there and try to start your own thing? Kinda like what Lhix was doing...

Somehow missed this question

Because I'm not lhix

[Zulfy]

But uhhh why not just jump into what was already there and try to start your own thing? Kinda like what Lhix was doing...

Somehow missed this question

Because I'm not lhix

But uhhh why not just jump into what was already there and try to start your own thing? Lhix did the same thing you did and I scumread him for it. Hence why I'm asking you.

[Jake from State Farm]

Cause I'm not trying to "start my own thing". What part of I'm not playing like myself day one did you not understand?

[Jake from State Farm]

That's a stupid reason to scum read somebody btw. The early incarnation of jfsf would do stuff like that all the time as town. It's not an alignment tell so yeah, stupid reason to scum read somebody

[Zulfy]

1. You were trying to start your own out-of-the-RVS thing, you yourself said so.
2. I've never played with you so what does that have to do with anything?
3. I've never played with you so what does that have to do with anything?

[Yimmy]

(expired on 2015-12-05 13:00:00)

(Sat Dec 5 @ 12:00:00 PM EST)

VOTECOUNT 1.05

• (1)
  TheLhix
  — Scorpius
  (2)
  Zulfy
  — Elyse, Frozen Angel,
  (1)
  Mathilda
  — Aneninen
  (2)
  Frozen Angel
  — Keyser Söze
  (2)
  Keyser Söze
  — InputPrimary, Jake from State Farm, Garmr, TheLhix
  (2)
  Jake from State Farm
  — Mathilda, Zulfy
  (0)
  Garmr
  —
  (0)
  Scorpious
  —
  (0)
  Elyse
  — RadiantCowbells
  (0)
  InputPrimary
  — Zoronos
  (0)
  Zoronos
  —
  (0)
  RadiantCowbells
  —
  (0)
  Aneninen
  —
  
  (0)
  [NOT VOTING]
  —
  
  With
  13

  alive
  , it takes
  7

  votes
  to lynch.

[Jake from State Farm]

1. Yes I was doing my own Rvs thing like everyone else did
2. Me doing my own thing isn't alignment indicative so it's stupid to try and imply it is
3. See number 2
4. Scum reading somebody for not jumping in to the game is also stupid because it's not alignment indicative so your basis for scum reading lhix and myself are bad and if you are town I hope after this game you learn to not do it anymore.

[Zulfy]

1. Yes I was doing my own Rvs thing like everyone else did
2. Me doing my own thing isn't alignment indicative so it's stupid to try and imply it is
3. See number 2
4. Scum reading somebody for not jumping in to the game is also stupid because it's not alignment indicative so your basis for scum reading lhix and myself are bad and if you are town I hope after this game you learn to not do it anymore.

Right, I'll just stop talking to you.

Everybody, yoo-hoo

: What are your reads on me and the Geico gecko?

[Zulfy]

Yo, that town is kinda bitchy. I can see we're not getting anywhere with this conversation so I'll wait on everyone else to come in and interact with it.

[Zulfy]

tone* haha not town.

[Jake from State Farm]

Yo, that town is kinda bitchy. I can see we're not getting anywhere with this conversation so I'll wait on everyone else to come in and interact with it.

You started the stupid conversation, I felt we were actually making progress. Are you saying once this game is over you aren't going to change your opinion? Cause if not that's just being narrow minded.

Like seriously, not joining into ongoing conversation and deciding to Rvs isn't a scum tell and it isn't really scummy either.

[Jake from State Farm]

Time to stop being serious, it's killing my buzz.

[Zoronos]

Do you think I'm playing anti-town? What is your read on me right now?

Yup. You're making a lot of noise, but not doing much to actually scum hunt or push the game forwards.
You're in nulls-ville on my reads list at the moment.
I'm more interested in some other folks, and I want to see what Anen says next since he promised a To Be Continued on his last post.

[Elyse]

@frozen
I meant that I like votes on you as in I think you're scummy. Also if you think judging people on their posts and not their reads is wrong, then you need to switch up how you play. Scum knows who is scum and town and can have more accurate reads than town.

@Zulfy
You need to ask me a better question than "what do you mean?" I also didn't see your question the first time.

[Frozen Angel]

@frozen
I meant that I like votes on you as in I think you're scummy. Also if you think judging people on their posts and not their reads is wrong, then you need to switch up how you play. Scum knows who is scum and town and can have more accurate reads than town.

that makes much more sense right now

[Garmr]

UNVOTE: keyser

[Garmr]

To lazy to post my thoughts right now just now.

[TheLhix]

(Just woke up. How is everybody?) When you an Garmr, I would like to hear your thoughts on the current state of the game (reads) and the unvote of keyser.

[TheLhix]

Will be posting a read post in 15 or so (if I can)

[Mathilda]

It's in scum's interest to spend longer in RVS because it is not possible to hunt scum when no one can take your vote seriously. This is because it does not assert any pressure on the recipient. The more time that is spend on scum hunting the harder it is to avoid suspicion. So someone who breaks us out of RVS is in my opinion playing pro-town. Now you can argue that scum could go about hiding by play pro-town but in my experience people remember suspicious behaviour more than they remember how other people played pro-town.

I don't think it's working in that way.
Actually this reasoning reminds me of my first scumgame. I used another kind of generalization there ("scums are lurking early-game") so as to avoid picking up fights and draw too much attention on me.

Are you suggesting that I should be utterly confident in my reads this early in the game and unwilling to entertain all possibilities or to change my mind?

No.
But your posts were typlically "one step forward, one step back". This is a good way to look as if you were doing something whilst avoiding direct conflicts with others.

This is true Mathilda, have you replied to this?

I started to then decided not to. I do understand why you and Aneninan say that. This is Day 1 so all we have to analyse is behaviour and tone. They're things to look out for but they don't build a case. I'm not interested in trying to appear town, I'm just interested in hunting out scum. If that means that I attract attention then I don't mind. It's ultimately all information for town.

a) Those pronouncements of pro-town play seemed out of line with actions. I don't think Zulfy was playing pro-town

Do you think I'm playing anti-town? What is your read on me right now?

To anybody who ever plays with me in the future: When an RVS wagon gets to L1 I will always hammer.
If that wagon goes away and comes back with some essence? Then yea, that's called playing mafia.

Why?

Not relevant to this game at all now. We can talk about it some other time if you'd like.

Except it is relevant because you brought it up #65. It rings LAMISTry to me and now you're evading giving an explanation. I'm not interested in getting bogged down in a conversation of generic game mechanics, but I do want to know that you had a good reason to policy lynch Keyser in the event of reaching L-1 from RVS.

[TheLhix]

Zulfy, what was your reason of the policy lynch of Captain Planet? (something I would also like to know)
If it was a joke: Then it was more useless that the attempts of me and Jake, who you have pressured and put your RVS play beyond it in terms of being useful.
If it wasn't: What did it truly accomplish? What was the results, I want your take of events.
It would seem you did the exact same as me and Jake but have little to show for it other than a unreasoned hammer.
Why is it not relevant if you were more than willing to pressure us over our plays? While mind you, actually had results other than blind Hammering. And as well, we came clean with our plays and objectives. The joking, slipping, all of it. And their meanings.

[Scorpious]

Everybody, yoo-hoo: What are your reads on me and the Geico gecko?

I think you are town. I think I caught something from you earlier,but very early

I like Jake right now as well,I don't see scum there..yet

[Scorpious]

Jake seems very relaxed. He is an experienced player so it could be fake,but my early read on him is that he is comfortable. I don't see anything so far that indicates a fabrication of anything.