In post 497, GuiltyLion wrote:- Awkward voting habits to start the game: Postie RVS voted Dong in 16, but then immediately made a second (RVS?) vote on vonflare in 26, then switched to the Counsel in 70. This all happened in the span of 40ish minutes RL time, so it's all pretty much fun and games at that point, but I tend to scumread people who votehop a lot for silly reasons because it reads to me like they don't want to commit to anything that could get them negative attention (why is your vote on [x]? = 'oh I just left it there, haven't really found a better target yet', etc).
We were essentially in RVS, making this a somewhat moot point.
Plus, I don't like people voting the Counsel, which seems to be just a distracting mechanic that can be used by scum to avoid legitimate productive scumhunting. My question to Postie in 74 was meant to kind of push this point - lynching the Counsel doesn't tell us anything and most likely would not be a scumlynch, in my view - and she kinda dodged the point of my question by saying she thinks the Counsel might be scum.
I was intrigued by the fact that the Counsel was votable and wanted them lynched out out curiosity.
- I didn't like her vote on Dong in 169. Part of this is my past experience with Dong, he's a very trolly and difficult to read player, but that makes him easily mislynchable and this vote seemed to me like a convenient way to take an argument that is fundamentally non-alignment-indicative ("did vonflare express an opinion on Dong or not") and use it to start a push.
Focusing on a specific part of what BNL was saying and ignoring context came across as dong trying to push something that seemed contrived.
- BNL vote based on mechanics: So I had a back and forth with Postie in the thread about this, but I thought it was a bit of a reach to vote BNL because he claimed a role that he had thought of before. At the time I didn't mind it too much because I had my own scumread on BNL and I wanted to see his lynch through, but "your roleclaim is a lie" was a convenient opinion to take and I definitely would have scumread her a hell of a lot harder for sheeping me on that wagon if BNL had flipped town. Dong basically shares the same opinion in 276.
Are you forgetting that I was
100% correct about BNL making up his role
? Either I made an extremely lucky guess or I, you know, had a well founded point
. Using this as a point against me is all kinds of ew.- Lack of 'town paranoia': I kind of made this point already earlier today, but it didn't strike me as a town mindset in how quick Postie was to assume shos/vonflare are town, couple them with her townreads, and narrow her lynchpool down to two people immediately. It's an easy way to excuse tunneling on one or two players (Flubber feels especially like lynchbait as he has been hardcore lurking), and I think town!Postie would be a lot more open towards questioning everyone involved today and letting some pushes/threads of conversation play out. I didn't like how she basically declared that she's on board for my lynch in 460 when I've barely done anything yet today, either.
Firstly, I didn't
assume
shos and vonflare were town, as evidenced by my use of the word "probably"; it was a loose hypothesis. Secondly, you may not have done much today, but I really didn't like your "reaction test", which was partly what pushed me to vote you. And I don't like your explanation of it much either.
