Blitz 12: Double Trouble! (Game Over)

[Flubbernugget]

Considering this game is multiball (I missed where that came from but it's being stated and unchallenged so I'm going with it) Titus's play right out of the gate makes sense. I missed the crumb as well so I'm not huge on saying Titus fakeclaimed rn.

VOTE: Yakko

The discussion between the two was right to the point. It wasn't ate Laden and pedantic like most 1v1 is. Waffling on it comes off as scum fearing a potential for two conftown and not knowing what to do with it.

Reading between the lines of this post shows I'm town reading Titus and Squirly btw so I'm not sure why you haven't challenged that but still act like my town reads are bad/nonexistent

[Flubbernugget]

I am inclined to believe Titus for now, but there is just one thing that keeps bugging me: her early and highly confident (and uncalled for) townread of Ranger. This conflicts with my belief that Ranger is scum.

Let some flips sort that out

[Flubbernugget]

I was commenting on the fact that he might be scum.

Why might Flubber be scum? I have a null read on him atm.

Minimal posts, comes into the game with a weak read on me, totally ignores everything that is happening and doesn't comment on the game or throw out reads. I mean he called titus and squirrely town I think how he phrased it was odd.

My points were mostly I didn't want to read the argument as I have been in games with both titus and farside and they always argue over seemingly nothing.

I think titus was dumbtelling because of the misunderstanding. Although I might be wrong in what dumbtelling means. Still need to look it up.

I like how you accuse me of ignoring the game in the same post you admit to ignoring the game yourself in and still want to say it's something scum do....

[AlwaysInnocent]

Yakko might very well be scum, but he is harder to read, so I would not prioritize him over Wanderer.

You wouldn't prioritize the harder to read that would probably take. more time to lynch?

What?

Expressing "surprise" at NKs is often a scumtell, especially when it is completely without substance. Ending your sentence with "hmm" makes it seem like you are deeply thinking about it, but in the end you say nothing worthwhile. Phantom was right to suspect you.

So

TheDominator

becomes red.

There's something off about making a huge case on someone and then scumreading someone else in the same breath over something like this. But that would probably need flips to really dig here

If I had more information to work with, the case would probably have been bigger. Like I said earlier, I need some way to differentiate between different colors of red. I would prioritize {Wanderer, Ranger} over {Dom}. Then comes {Yakko}.

Also town reads are easier to fake than scum reads so that's an interesting question you have there

True.

Yakko
Wanderer
Dwlee

For now everyone else can be town by poe

Dwlee is dead. Confirmed town.

[Flubbernugget]

Are town villager and town citizen different somehow? *Is confused*

Hello scumslip.

VOTE: Bebop.

I don't do crumbs.

Yes you do.
Titus is scum, too.

VOTE: Titus.

This is not how you scumhunt when you think you've found a slip

[AlwaysInnocent]

Are town villager and town citizen different somehow? *Is confused*

Hello scumslip.

VOTE: Bebop.

I don't do crumbs.

Yes you do.
Titus is scum, too.

VOTE: Titus.

This is not how you scumhunt when you think you've found a slip

I agree.

I am inclined to believe Titus for now, but there is just one thing that keeps bugging me: her early and highly confident (and uncalled for) townread of Ranger. This conflicts with my belief that Ranger is scum.

Let some flips sort that out

Hence my vote on Ranger.

[Flubbernugget]

Almost caught up

[AlwaysInnocent]

If Albert B. keeps lurking, I will interpret it as a scumclaim from Albert B.

[Titus]

VOTE: flubber

Mod confirmed multiball. Can't PoE to 3 ppl.

[Titus]

Plus how the fuck do you PoE Albert?

[pisskop]

Votecount 2.03

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Ranger

- (3) AlwaysInnocent, ErrantParabola, BeBopAReBop

Errant Parabola

- (2) texcat, Ranger

wanderer-nl

- (1) Squirrelly

AlwaysInnocent

- (1) wanderer-nl

Hi Im Yakko

- (1) Flubbernugget

Flubbernugget

- (1) Titus

Titus

- (1) Firebringer

Not Voting:

Albert B. Rampage, TheDominator37, ZZZX, Hi Im Yakko

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With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline is 15DEC15, (expired on 2015-12-15 20:30:00)

Firebringer is v/la until Wensday

[AlwaysInnocent]

So are you saying he is scumclaiming, Titus? I have to admit: it does seem odd. Exactly 3 scum, as if he knows about his own scum faction, but not the other. From the town POV, assuming it is not multi-ball, a better estimate would be 4:12 scum. My own prediction of the true proportions is 3:3:9, or 4:3:8, or 3:4:8.

But it seems too silly to be true.

[pisskop]

Prodding Albert B. Rampage and Squirrelly

[texcat]

My biggest scum reads are Errant and Ranger. I'm guessing they must be of different scum factions.

[AlwaysInnocent]

My biggest scum reads are Errant and Ranger. I'm guessing they must be of different scum factions.

Why Errant?

[texcat]

I don't like the way he's come in and jumped on whatever bandwagon has been convenient at the time. His reads don't seem to have consistency. He seems to be just going along with the crowd.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Not sure. He does seem to make up his own mind. Have you ISO'ed him yet?

[farside22]

Prodding Albert B. Rampage and Squirrelly

Haven't heard from persivul but I'm busy till later tonight.
Thanks

[Squirrelly]

Here - been busy, will try to catch up tonight.

- pers

p-edit: you beat me to it

[texcat]

Yes, but re-ISOing.
Errant starts by commenting on Fire. He says he doesn't like her posts, but later claims that he is explicitly not scumreading her. Agreeing, but not agreeing with the current wagon. This would have a major impact for me if either Errant or Fire flips scum, but as is, I just dislike the fence sitting.

Spoiler:

Ugh
Is this going to be one of those low activity blitzes

Just looking at that vote count on me.

I am impresssed, who else besides maybe titus would have this many votes on them this early?

I amaze myself, I haven't even done anything

This is not a reaction that makes me very confident in fire being town

there's no town motivation for making it.
Fire made a post that talked about himself. How does that move the game forward?
I also have extremely minor problems with the cavalier attitude (is it faked?) but that can be ignored for now because that could be just playstyle.

Especially the townreading of random people seems odd. I

know

that I am town, but I have not said or done anything yet that could lead to a reliable townread. In fact, some people seem to be suspicious of me, so why does she townread me?

Titus you say you have AI as a scumread. How opposed are you to voting here?

I disliked the above post. A lot. Titus did vote you, but later unvoted and you ended up a townread for her. And suddenly,

A quick skim over the past few pages and AI is actually looking townier by the second. Let me do a full reread but for now
UNVOTE:

AI, I'll respond to your question with: are you opposed to voting flubber?

VOTE: Ranger

I think I'm okay with this, but for different reasons, AI.
Bebop and Titus are definitely the same alignment. That we can say for certain.

Then Errant was clearly missing something or confused about Bebop and Titus's claims. But goes along with the Ranger wagon.

It just seems too much like Errant is checking to see which way the wind is blowing.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I agree that we have to sort this out, but I am not sure if you got the order right. I townread Titus much later in the game (because of PR claim), but #265 happened before this.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Or do you mean Titus townreading me? I am not sure if she did before D2, but I may just be overlooking it.

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: bebop

How do you know he is gonna flip town?

Ranger and Always Innocent

Talk to me about what motivations you see behind this post

[Flubbernugget]

Is this a good summary of Ranger v. AI?

AI: your reads are bad. You are scum

Ranger:that's just how I play

AI: your play is bad. You are scum

Ranger: my play isn't bad tho

AI: yes it is

Ranger: no it's not

Etc.

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: flubber

Mod confirmed multiball. Can't PoE to 3 ppl.

Have you never seen an incomplete reads list before