UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[Learned Hand]

If you're going to do that Sharky, you should use the language in 1220 but with the proper spelling of TN's name. :nod:

Then you take an action to tn rather than changing him.

[Cerberus v666]

I recommend running EVERYTHING by dramonic though. Ask "If I dream " I invent a compulsive D1 desperado shot to tn, and my action succeeds, will you alllw it, and what will happen if he is scum? What will happen if he is town?" Ideally you'd want the time limit a day compulsive would have, what happens if he doesn't choose a targef, WHEN whatever happens happens, etc.

[Cerberus v666]

Dunno if he'll answer your questions though, dreamers are weird.

[Sharky5x]

While I do not know if giving a compulsive day one desperado gun is legal, I know 100% that I can perform a desperado shot today.

[Cerberus v666]

Gotcha. I recommend finding out.

[Shiro]

Dreaming to be unlynchable is scummy as fuck. It forces town to waste a lynch.

I am going to be honest and say that I didn't think of it that way.

Point taken

[Elbirn]

While I do not know if giving a compulsive day one desperado gun is legal, I know 100% that I can perform a desperado shot today.

So now you're claiming you're also already a desperado...

Or that you can dream that you yourself are a desperado

But I'm pretty sure it was stated earlier you could only affect another player..?

:/

[Sharky5x]

While I do not know if giving a compulsive day one desperado gun is legal, I know 100% that I can perform a desperado shot today.

So now you're claiming you're also already a desperado...

Or that you can dream that you yourself are a desperado

But I'm pretty sure it was stated earlier you could only affect another player..?

:/

I don't become a role. I simply perform an action.
I know an action I can pick is "day desperado shot"

[Cerberus v666]

Hmm. I think he means dreaming he can take a desperado shot is something that he is explicitly doing himself, so he doesn't see any reason why it wouldn't giving work, but giving someone else a compulsive desperado shot has more fiddly bits so he's not sure it'll work.

Again, ask the mod. We also need tn in here.

[Cerberus v666]

Desperado is activated in thread, so. Yeah. Meh. Too much talk about this. Just go ask the mod. Seriously. Let's do something else while we're waiting for an answer.

[Sharky5x]

Hmm. I think he means dreaming he can take a desperado shot is something that he is explicitly doing himself, so he doesn't see any reason why it wouldn't giving work, but giving someone else a compulsive desperado shot has more fiddly bits so he's not sure it'll work.

Again, ask the mod. We also need tn in here.

No I asked. Day desperado shot is good. Invent compulsive day one desperado gun is not confirmed.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, you can answer my question about why you handled your vote restriction so poorly.

Pedit: umm, not confirmed how? As in, he wouldn't tell you what would happen?

[Cerberus v666]

Also, the point of a desperado shot is we KNOW who you targeted. So..it happens in thread. Did he explain how that would all work too? You dream of making a desperado shot against x, and then, in thread, he flavors it and the results, or do you have to come make the post in thread targeting them, or is this just a desperado shot and suddenly either you'll die or someone else will if they're scum? I guess it doesn't mattee, if you die you're town, so we must trust you did what you said you'd do. Meh. Shitty to have to risk your slot of you're town.

[Sharky5x]

I haven't heard anything about it. Either I can't know or very likely dramonic is afk.

I feel good about performing a desperado shot. It either gets me out of the game and confirms a townie, plus you get to try a different lynch, OR we kill off 1 scum and hopefully clears me as town.

[Cerberus v666]

Your role is stupidly strong. If we can do what LH suggested for multiple days, we are controlling more kills than scum, and potentially clearing town and sculpting a perfect POE endgame for us. It's much better if we don't have to risk you targeting scum and dying. If you're town. If you're scum you're certainly trying to figure out how to screw this up. :p

And again: why did you handle the vote restriction the way you did?

[Sharky5x]

Your role is stupidly strong. If we can do what LH suggested for multiple days, we are controlling more kills than scum, and potentially clearing town and sculpting a perfect POE endgame for us. It's much better if we don't have to risk you targeting scum and dying. If you're town. If you're scum you're certainly trying to figure out how to screw this up. :p

And again: why did you handle the vote restriction the way you did?

If that is true, then it will certainly be rejected. I am going to do a desperado shot today. Errant, Massflop, or TN. I'm still thinking.

Why are you so interested in that when I've already said I cannot talk about it?

[Cerberus v666]

You can't talk about why you never attempted a vote? The vote may not have worked, but bolding the words Vote: Someone would have resulted in you being mod killed?

Sharky, it is absolutely suboptimal for you to be impatient. Dramonic will answer you, he is just afk. No reason to make a suboptimal play because you made assumptions. Never risk wasting your roles potential.because you make assumptions about the limits..

[DiamondSentinel]

Errant, massflop, TN, do any of you object to this desperado on you?

[Cerberus v666]

Also, there's little reason why it would be rejected. Maybe the compulsive modifier would be rejected, but we can force whoever you give it to to use it on whoever we choose. It's not game breaking because scum can always just shoot you. It's just a strong power.

DS: do not encourage this impatience. Dramonic will not just ignore him. He might day "I will not answer that question", but he won't ignore him.

[RolePlay25]

Well I could talk about all sorts of things as a result of this. But then I realized I don't actually care to until the shot happens.

Unvote

[Sharky5x]

Breaking news, I can give the compulsive day one desperado gun.

[Cerberus v666]

Well, that is fantastic. In my opinion, the optimal play is to give it to someone we don't mind vigging, and have that person target you(since desperado is activated in thread(confirm that the gun you give will be activated and targeted in thread)), that will clear you, and kill someone who we would have instead spent a mislynch on. That person may be scum. If they are, they'll just target someone else, but either way, *someone* gets confirmed as town, or they kill a member of their team. Win/Win. Again, optimally they target you, and you get cleared, thereby forcing scum into a wifomy mess for their kill tonight because they now know you can absolutely wreck them, but they also know the rest of the town also knows that.

Those are just my thoughts though, give it to whoever is scummy.

[Jeanne11]

Hello again. Vi Graythorn is back.

[Cerberus v666]

Welcome back Jeanne. A lot has happened.

[Jeanne11]

Vi knows. Vi is here because Vi won't mind taking one for the team.