Newbie 1676 | Hungarian Nóták | Endgame

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.01 Kicsiny falum ott születtem én

Kicsiny falum ott születtem én
Nincs ott lámpa,nincs ott gyertyafény.
Házunk előtt vén eperfa áll
Engem anyám mindig haza vár!

Megírom majd jó anyám neked,
Ne várj haza többé nem megyek.
Amikor a kis falumban nyugovóra térnek,
Anyám,mondj el értem egy imát!

Refr:
Rendes ember én már nem leszek!
Minden éjjel zülleni megyek.
Várnak rám a léha cimborák
A festett nők,a pezsgős vacsorák.

Hogy mi lesz a vége jól tudom.
Meghalok egy züllött hajnalon.
Amikor a kis falumban nyugovóra térnek,
Anyám,mondj el értem egy imát!

I was born in a small village
There are no lamps, there are no candle lights.
In front of our house is an old mulberry tree
My mother always waits for me to come home!

I will write to you my good mother,
Don’t wait for me to come home anymore, I won’t go.
When people go to sleep in my little village,
Mama, say a prayer for me!

Refr:
I won’t become an upright person
Every night I go out drinking.
My flighty friends await me
The makeuped women, the champagned dinners.

I know the end well.
I’ll die one drunken dawn.
When people go to sleep in my little village,
Mama, say a prayer for me!

lynching

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or no lynch.

Belisarius

(L-3): Bluebird, hiplop

Bluebird

(L-4): Belisarius

Smudger

(L-4): Kim

Freshmaniscoolman

(L-4): Witch_Hunter

hiplop

(L-4): Smudger

Witch_Hunter

(L-5): hiplop

Not voting

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Belisarius, Bluebird,

Dizzy, Freshmaniscoolman,

hiplop, Kim, Smudger

, SZU,

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[Witch_Hunter]

4) Logical posts that lead to a mislynch.

Isn't that

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what scum would say? "Look, I may look really scummy, but I'm a townie. No, really!"
It could be just your personality, but it sounds suspicious.

5. I'm always scum, even when I'm town. That much hasn't changed

For the same reasons above, I don't like this much either.
Either way, no strong reads on Belisarius or Kim but for that, so I'm not changing my vote till everyone's participating and I have a more complete set of reads. Unless someone actually claims scum or something overtly suspicious.

@

Bluebird

: Captain Basch is a character from Final Fantasy XII who gets impersonated twice during the game.
Ontopic: Your vote on Belisarius, was it just OMGUS or something else?

@

Belisarius

: Do you actually scumread Bluebird, or is your vote still random?

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Kim

: It's way early in the game, but any of those logical posts you could share?

[Witch_Hunter]

Mostly offtopic, except for the last question:

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Hiplop

: I'll check it later, thanks for pointing it. Kinda odd this game gathers so many of what's supposed to be a rare type (~3%).

@ All Canadians: Your musical discussions went completely over my head, so: any good metal Canadian bands?

@All experienced players: What's your suggested method of keeping track of what's going on? Do you take notes, and how?

[Smudger]

Hey Witch have you heard of RVS?

[Bluebird]

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Bluebird

: Captain Basch is a character from Final Fantasy XII who gets impersonated twice during the game.
Ontopic: Your vote on Belisarius, was it just OMGUS or something else?

My vote on Belisarius is OMGUS. I'll vote someone else when I'm given a legitimate reason, but for now, I haven't seen much scumminess yet.

Somewhat off topic: @

hiplop

, Thanks, I'll also have to check the INTP thread out.

[hiplop]

Mostly offtopic, except for the last question:

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Hiplop

: I'll check it later, thanks for pointing it. Kinda odd this game gathers so many of what's supposed to be a rare type (~3%).

@ All Canadians: Your musical discussions went completely over my head, so: any good metal Canadian bands?

@All experienced players: What's your suggested method of keeping track of what's going on? Do you take notes, and how?

I tend to take notes in a google spreadsheet. I put in any claims/hints/reads the people have been strong on, and make a new one for each day. Then by endgame I have an assortment of data that can help pinpoint lies/strange changes in position

The best way to get people to crack is with pressure, so I do recommend you vote the people you find scummy. Votes can be changed whenever you want, might as well make scum squirm with pressure.

Day 1 usually starts with random vote stage where a bunch of votes/crazy stuff happens as you try to push for scummy behavior via the power of pressure.

Example: Belisarius' strange answer to my scum question + lack of participation in RVS. That combo to me coming from an SE wreaks of scum.

[Kim]

4) Logical posts that lead to a mislynch.

Isn't that

precisely

what scum would say? "Look, I may look really scummy, but I'm a townie. No, really!"
It could be just your personality, but it sounds suspicious.

I think scum would say it in hindsight, but I think it's more indicative of my pessimism with respect to Mafia than it is to my alignment. I've been Town in all three games I've played and have yet to have an end-of-Day vote on scum in eight tries.

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Kim

: It's way early in the game, but any of those logical posts you could share?

I haven't been at home since the game started, so I had been phone-posting. Now I can copy-paste and use tabs more easily. I guess the "best" two examples would be Newbie 1654, Day 2 and Open 615, Day 2. Looking at my other games to see where I voted might help you get a read on my style if it's that much of a concern to you.

[Witch_Hunter]

Hey Witch have you heard of RVS?

Random voting stage? I have, even if I didn't much see the point before hiplop explained it.
If that's your way of inviting me to RV some more, I'd rather wait till everyone's here. For all I know, all six of us who posted so far may be townies wasting our time trying to scumread each other.

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Kim

: Thank you for the post - seriously - but we have some miscommunication here. I meant, "would you post one of your logical analyses on this game?"
Then again, ignore it for now. I'll ask again later, when the game really gets going. Just from reading other games, I hadn't realized that takes a while to happen.

[Belisarius]

@ Belisarius: Do you actually scumread Bluebird, or is your vote still random?

Random. I have one townread and no scumreads so far. That still helps. PoE is potent.

[hiplop]

@ Belisarius: Do you actually scumread Bluebird, or is your vote still random?

Random. I have one townread and no scumreads so far. That still helps. PoE is potent.

If anyone is unsure of who to vote; consider the expierenced player ignoring common play/ my posts

[Smudger]

Going VLA until Sunday

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[Belisarius]

@ Belisarius: Do you actually scumread Bluebird, or is your vote still random?

Random. I have one townread and no scumreads so far. That still helps. PoE is potent.

If anyone is unsure of who to vote; consider the expierenced player ignoring common play/ my posts

Am I ignoring your posts? I hadn't noticed.

Secondly, by "common play", do you actually mean " current site meta"?

[Kim]

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Kim

: Thank you for the post - seriously - but we have some miscommunication here. I meant, "would you post one of your logical analyses on this game?"
Then again, ignore it for now. I'll ask again later, when the game really gets going. Just from reading other games, I hadn't realized that takes a while to happen.

Heh. You're right that it does take a while to have enough info to analyze, but I can tell you what I've noticed so far. All of this might only be slightly better than random, but being open with my thoughts at this point can't hurt.

You seem to be trying to get us out of the random stages. That's a pro-town thing to do. hiplop's pressure on Belisarius looks misguided to me, but maybe something will come out of it. Bel (can I call you Bel?) shouldn't need my help defending himself, at any rate. I've sensed nothing from Smudger and Bluebird yet, but that doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me.

Spoiler: Random, mostly off-topic thoughts

I generally use a spreadsheet to keep track of votes (or at least votes with meaning). I'll keep notes and sometimes compose longer posts in a text editor (specifically Notepad++ in my case, but there are plenty of them that would work just as well). I actually thought Alvvays was Nova Scotian (my list of bands was supposed to be from west to east, although my putting Edmonton east of Calgary was a lucky guess) because I thought that was how they got Kate Beaton to design a T-shirt for them, but I must have misinterpreted something. (Also, I really should've said that I would be remembered for parenthetical clauses.)

[Belisarius]

Bel (can I call you Bel?) shouldn't need my help defending himself

No, I don't

UNVOTE: bluebird

VOTE: Kim

Serious vote.

[hiplop]

VOTE: Kim We'll see where this goes

[Plotinus]

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[Kim]

Huh. So I guess being open with my thoughts can hurt. (More later after sleep and a little work.)

P-edit: Welcome!

[Plotinus]

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[MrCurlyNoodles]

Hey everyone! Having just gotten the time to read through everything so far since I was added I guess I'll introduce myself with those helpful questions.

1) Have anyone of you played any off-site games?

Nope

2)How about on-site games? If so; How Many?

None, outside of a little bit in real life I'm a complete mafia noobie so any help or advice is welcome and probably needed. I'm also new to forum type sites for the most part so any advice on how to navigate/use this site would also be great. Thanks!

3) How would you describe yourself as an individual?

Nerdy/geeky, shy at first but generally talkative, almost always tired, Idk I'm bad at describing myself

4) What do you think you will be remembered for this game?

Probably using too many emoticons

5) Why are you not scum? (:P)

Because I'm not

6) Favourite pizza topping?

All of the meats and/or cheeses pretty much

7) Favourite Movie?

I like lots of movies but probably The Dark Knight

8) Favourite Song/band/music genre?

Lots of music too but right now mostly folk/alternative with a sprinkling of some rap and Daft Punk

Side note: I'm also Canadian! So yay Canada? Also I apologize in advance for my overuse of the tongue face as punctuation. I have a problem, I'm aware

I guess I'll join in on this random voting train so here we go VOTE: Belisarius

[Smudger]

hmmmmmm

[Witch_Hunter]

Welcome,

MrCurlyNoodles

! Good to see I'm not the only total newbie around. Feel free to ask for advice - not that I have any to give, but this is a friendly crowd and chances are I'll learn from the answers too.

Anyway, I'd like to hear more from you, and my vote on an inactive player isn't doing any good, so you know what? I'll follow the suggestion from the experienced players. Random vote it is:
VOTE: MrCurlyNoodles

[Smudger]

ok .. I have to claim..... MY GF is Canadian...... I love her......


there are too many Canadians playing MS FFS....


I'm British btw...

VOTE: Witch_Hunter

serious vote

[Bluebird]

Welcome to the game, MrCurlyNoodles!

Belisarius and hiplop, do you think Kim was trying to buddy?

Huh. So I guess being open with my thoughts can hurt. (More later after sleep and a little work.)

I would think that you would know that by now.

hmmmmmm

Who? MrCurlyNoodles? If you're suspicious of him, why are you voting Witch Hunter?

If someone's serious voting on page 2, I want to know why.

[Witch_Hunter]

serious vote

Ok, if you say so.
You have a really opaque MO, you know? It's hard to read you either way if you don't speak your mind now and then.

[Kim]

Huh. So I guess being open with my thoughts can hurt. (More later after sleep and a little work.)

I would think that you would know that by now.

I do know that white knighting is frowned upon (and rightfully so), but it's such a natural impulse for me. I thought I was doing a good enough job of avoiding that, but I guess not. (This is assuming that that's why they voted for me; I could be wrong.)

@hiplop: You've gone from voting for Belisarius on factually incorrect grounds and encouraging others to do likewise to sheeping his vote. I'd love to hear an explanation for this, as this seems like the scummiest thing I've seen so far in this game.

UNVOTE: Smudger
VOTE: hiplop

(Seriousness level: 3/5. I would not have put you at L-1 at this time.)