Mini 1755: Game Over

[Dierfire]

VOTE COUNT 1.01

AlwaysInnocent (2): Ircher, Heat
Pisskop (1): Burning_Earth
Burning_Earth (1): AxleGreaser
Ircher (1): AlwaysInnocent
Mafiaturtle (1): lilac
AxleGreaser (1): Performer

No Vote (6): pisskop, Mafiaturtle, massive, Deus Asmoth, Raskolnikov, Keyser Söze

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(expired on 2016-01-20 12:00:00)

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[Keyser Söze]

Spoiler: AxleGreaser's conclusions

Things i learned.
You're not tilted about them. I considered that a possibility.

Things I didn't learn.
Whether you are more opposed to them than I am.

Strange that Axle asked Keyser about fake claim, during RVS. Never seen this happen before.

Yeah, it seemed a bit uncalled for. Not sure what to make of it.

The timing of his question makes this question

null-indicative

for me. We're all strangers, it was still RVS - I presume AxleGreaser is trying to find out more about the new faces he does not "know". This is not AxleGreaser aiming to discern my alignment through his question. If he had thrown this question further down the line to me, in order to push it as an alignment indicative factor... in that case, it would be suspicious.

VOTE: Axle for asking about fake claim when he is a very experienced player

VOTE: Performer

[Ircher]

Well, I have only played one game here so far. The details are in my sig.

Personally, I think Axle has been the most scummy so far, as stated by other players.

[Keyser Söze]

Personally, I think Axle has been the most scummy so far, as stated by other players.

Please show me where "other players" have "stated" that AxleGreaser has been the "most scummy" player so far.

Please tell me why

you

think AxleGreaser has been the "most scummy" player so far.

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: pisskop
Not serious.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Personally, I think Axle has been the most scummy so far, as stated by other players.

Please show me where "other players" have "stated" that AxleGreaser has been the "most scummy" player so far.

Please tell me why

you

think AxleGreaser has been the "most scummy" player so far.

Why get so defensive about him? Is there something we should know?

[Ircher]

Personally, I think Axle has been the most scummy so far, as stated by other players.

Please show me where "other players" have "stated" that AxleGreaser has been the "most scummy" player so far.

Please tell me why

you

think AxleGreaser has been the "most scummy" player so far.

Also Hi,
people I know.
I wont list who you are as I am pretty sure some of the people I think I 'know' I have only stalked. (as per in the spoiler)

Speaking of Stalking...

Keyser whats your

general

opinion of fake claiming?

Strange that Axle asked Keyser about fake claim, during RVS. Never seen this happen before.

@lilac well well well. If it isn't the upside-down treble clef mixed in with the bass clef icon. Quite creative and very charming.

I have meta with 3 of the players. Let me know if anyone wants to know.

Spoiler: off topic

initiating playstyle imitations of Antihero, GuiltyLion, RadiantCowbells

VOTE: Axle for asking about fake claim when he is a very experienced player

the 3 who didn't pick up their roles...get with the program!
when you guys get with it
we'll offer hugs and frosted flakes
because it's still chilly outside

To your first question -- ^

As to your second, the same as above.

I really think it is rather suspicious you start jumping on me when I made a simple statement this early in the game. Did I say something wrong?

[Ircher]

And please don't post videos like that. It eats up data; at least put them in spoiler tags.

[Keyser Söze]

Why get so defensive about him? Is there something we should know?

I am not being defensive. What I am doing is questioning statements that I do not understand:


1) for Ircher to show me where "other players" have "stated" that AxleGreaser has been the "most scummy" player so far.

[I have seen people question the motivation of AxleGreaser's question about fakeclaiming, but I have not seen anywhere stating that he was the most scummy player. I do not like Ircher creating a scenario that does not exist]

2) for Ircher to tell me why he thinks AxleGreaser has been the "most scummy" player so far.

Ircher has now answered:

As to your second, the same as above.

Explain to me why AxleGreaser ("a very experienced player") asking me (an inexperienced player) about my general opinion of fake claiming is

scum indicative

.

[Keyser Söze]

Is there something we should know?

There is something I would like to "know" What are your conclusions on the following:

1) me answering AxleGreaser's "general opinion" question
2) me asking Ircher to explain his two statements?
3) Do you think I am currently town/null/scum reading AxleGreaser?

[massive]

FOS: All those people quoting CM Punk into the game thread

FOS: Performer for complaining about player activity in a game starting on the freaking weekend.

[Deus Asmoth]

Hello there, people. I'm new in town, but I'm sure this'll be interesting.

VOTE: Keyser Söze

VOTE: Axle for asking about fake claim when he is a very experienced player

VOTE: Performer

This would seem to be at odds with your claim that you're not defending Axle. Why the proxy-OMGUS?

Ircher

, If you think Axle's the scummiest player in the game, why do you still have your vote on Innocent?

[Keyser Söze]

This would seem to be at odds with your claim that you're not defending Axle.

I voted performer because I feel he was voting AxleGreaser for a

non-alignment indicative

reason.

Do you think Performance's reason is scum-indicative too? (

"for asking about fake claim when he is a very experienced player"

- I presume this was non-RVS/serious).

[Keyser Söze]

Why the proxy-OMGUS?

What is this?

[Ircher]

Ircher, If you think Axle's the scummiest player in the game, why do you still have your vote on Innocent?

Well, I don't want to be constantly changing my vote, there isn't enough evidence to show he's scum (he's the scummiest at the time I made that post), and we're still in RVS for the most part.

@Keyser - Never did I say everyone else thought Axle was the scummiest; it is just the reasoning they presented that made me decide he was scummiest imo.
Your questioning over a simple statement od opinion seems overly defensive (especially in RVS) and suggests the two of you are scum buddies. With that being said, you have replayed Axle at the top of my scum list.

UNVOTE: AI
VOTE: Keyser

[Ircher]

Ok, I see where you're getting at Keyser. I wrote that poorly; I ment for the reasons others stated. Sorry for the confusion, but I still think you are being overly defensive.

[Heat]

Ok, I see where you're getting at Keyser. I wrote that poorly; I ment for the reasons others stated. Sorry for the confusion, but I still think you are being overly defensive.

So what are the reasons that others stated?

[Ircher]

Umm... I already quoted it when answering above; mainly because he asked about fakeclaiming when he's rather experienced.

Oh, and I just want to point out that scummiest is a relative term, so when I use it, I might not neccessarily think they are scum; what I truly saying is that their play looks the scummiest. Do you understand what I'm saying?

[Keyser Söze]

You still haven't fully answered my two questions, Ircher (perhaps my questions are unclear).

Show me where "others" say he is the "most scummy".
Tell me why only scum-AxleGreaser could have asked for my opinion on fake claiming, why not town-AxleGreaser?

Why are you calling me and AxleGreaser scum-partners? We're on page two and you're already pushing pre-flip association tells.

Again, I am not being defensive. I want you to explain the two statements you made.

If you can't support them, just say so.

Did you mean AxleGreaser's question aroused the 'most curiosity'?

[Keyser Söze]

Ok, I see where you're getting at Keyser. I wrote that poorly; I ment for the reasons others stated. Sorry for the confusion,

Missed this. Thanks Ircher.

[Deus Asmoth]

This would seem to be at odds with your claim that you're not defending Axle.

I voted performer because I feel he was voting AxleGreaser for a

non-alignment indicative

reason.

Do you think Performance's reason is scum-indicative too? (

"for asking about fake claim when he is a very experienced player"

- I presume this was non-RVS/serious).

I don't think it's a particularly strong reason for voting for him, but that early in the RVS it's as good a reason as any as far as I can see. If he meant it as a serious vote I'd think it was kind of strange.

Why the proxy-OMGUS?

What is this?

It's possibly closer to chainsaw defending, but you didn't actually attack them in any way other than voting, so I didn't think it qualified. Essentially, you were OMGUSing for Axle rather than for yourself.

[Ircher]

Tell me why only scum-AxleGreaser could have asked for my opinion on fake claiming, why not town-AxleGreaser?

Why are you calling me and AxleGreaser scum-partners? We're on page two and you're already pushing pre-flip association tells.

Again, I am not being defensive. I want you to explain the two statements you made. If you can't support them, just say so.

Did you mean AxleGreaser's question aroused the 'most curiosity'?

[Ircher]

1. Tell me why only scum-AxleGreaser could have asked for my opinion on fake claiming, why not town-AxleGreaser?

2. Why are you calling me and AxleGreaser scum-partners? We're on page two and you're already pushing pre-flip association tells.

3. Again, I am not being defensive. I want you to explain the two statements you made. If you can't support them, just say so.

4. Did you mean AxleGreaser's question aroused the 'most curiosity'?

1. To be truthful, I never really said Axle was scum. I guess I kinda implied it, but later I stated that when I say "scummiest", it is a relative term; it doesn't necessarily mean I think you're scum. Anyway, I can see town Axle doing it, but out of everyone at that point, Axle seemed to be the most suspicious.

2. Because you do seem to be defending Axle a lot. I will say it is too early to be making judgment calls, but I got to start somewhere. Don't worry, you're not in jeopardy of being lynched (yet).

3. That's just the way I saw it. Anyway, this post should clear up any remaining confusion on the matter.

4. I guess that is a reasonable way to put it. Yes, that probably is what I meant.

Whoops, didn't pay attn when submiting....

[pisskop]

AI, youre full of piss and vinegar today?

[Dierfire]

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