Blitz 17: Netherspite's Blitz SORM II [Game over]

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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:33 am

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In post 899, rkvothe wrote:Since we got 3 deaths last night, I'm not feeling very comfortable about our chances.
Me neither. Assuming you are Town for the sake of being able to say "me neither".
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:33 am

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In post 890, rkvothe wrote:But we can't afford lynching town, so I won't be mislynched at all. We can discuss all what we want today, but we gonna end up lynching 3dice, imo.

We gotta make a leap of faith or lose trying.


Um yeah, it will be close unless (Some of the claims on your list are scum.. say AI and random) and then the undeclared roles hold very pleasant surprises.

and yes any 1v1 wont be between you and percivul even if he claims not to be bus driven.

Today, 3 dice will swing. (I promise to try and make that happen for you 3dice.)
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:34 am

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Yes, and one of those deaths was caused by me, by being redirected. Aristophanes is probably the Mafia Coward. Hiding in other people's houses.
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:37 am

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The problem with this setup is that Town can be motivated to act against their initial win condition. I am not saying we should do this, but suppose that we would otherwise lose, we could let 3dice live and have him convert us. Then we might be able to win as Cultists against the Mafia.

This is probably a really, really controversial idea, though. I wouldn't suggest it, but just wanted to share this.
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:38 am

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This is why Cultists are generally considered bastard: they screw around with the win conditions.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:42 am

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It's fun, but not effective, since we all won't be converted at the end of the day.

So, if you were redirected, we only got the scum kill and the mm/sk kill, so one of the scum is a beguiler. Awful alike to survivor. That'd make Aronis a probable scum, and yakko an actual amnesiac.
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:42 am

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at the end of the game*
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:43 am

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In post 905, rkvothe wrote:It's fun, but not effective, since we all won't be converted at the end of the day.

So, if you were redirected, we only got the scum kill and the mm/sk kill, so one of the scum is a beguiler. Awful alike to survivor. That'd make Aronis a probable scum, and yakko an actual amnesiac.
Yes. Ardonis is a really bad survivor if he wants to die to prove a point. That makes him 99% scum.
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:44 am

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Ah, shit, nevermind, you targetted Aristophanes, not Aronis. My bad.
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:45 am

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You're right, though. They are both scum. At least Aristophanes is for sure, and Ardonis extremely likely.
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:46 am

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Yakko, have you switched to the Town side already?

If this is true, then we would have 5 Townies.

But something tells me Yakko isn't loyal to Town (which is to be expected, given that he is strictly scum).
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:48 am

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If he's amnesiac and already switched, he could only be town, since last night only Ranger (Town Spy) and AA (Town Jailor) were dead. If he didn't switched, I'd be concerned.
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:49 am

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Aaaand he didn't swtich. Role PM says that if he succeeds on switching, it'd be announced in thread that amnesiac remembered his role.
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:51 am

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In post 821, Netherspite wrote:
Some of us did not survive the night.

We found
Frozen Angel
dead in his home last night.
She was ripped apart with several rounds from a high-caliber gun
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She was a
Jester
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This sounds like a vig shot, so we can almost certainly confirm that Aristophanes is a beguiler.
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:58 am

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In post 912, rkvothe wrote:Aaaand he didn't swtich. Role PM says that if he succeeds on switching, it'd be announced in thread that amnesiac remembered his role.
Damn Yakko. Opportunistic jerk.

But I might have done the same if I were him.

Or... we are wrong about him. If Yakko doesn't remember his role the coming night, then he might not be amnesiac after all. Then he must be scum.
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:58 am

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In post 913, rkvothe wrote:
In post 821, Netherspite wrote:
Some of us did not survive the night.

We found
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This sounds like a vig shot, so we can almost certainly confirm that Aristophanes is a beguiler.
Are you sure? I don't like to reason about flavor...
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:01 am

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Well, Nether said it could have something to do or something like that.

Also, I'd like to analyze the night 1 actions. We had only one death there. I guess you didn't shot? And if we can say that mm killed Ranger, what happened to the scum nightkill? Anyone can shed some light on it?
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:02 am

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I didn't redirect anything night 1.
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:04 am

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In post 332, Netherspite wrote:
You hear shots ring through the streets...

You hear the horrifying cacophony of a chainsaw through flesh...



Wait, if we can reason with flavour, the scum night-kill went through, but the MM's didn't.
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:05 am

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In post 333, Netherspite wrote:She was shot at close range. After that, she was attacked once more


Or targetted by both scum and mm.
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:06 am

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I'd like to know everyone's night actions, anyways.
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:07 am

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In post 916, rkvothe wrote:Well, Nether said it could have something to do or something like that.

Also, I'd like to analyze the night 1 actions. We had only one death there. I guess you didn't shot? And if we can say that mm killed Ranger, what happened to the scum nightkill? Anyone can shed some light on it?
Vigs cannot shoot on N1. I was notified about this.

FA didn't realize that she couldn't. This made me suspect that she was lying, but then I realized that she could not even have attempted it (if she were truthful), if she was in jail during that night.
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:07 am

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N1: Null.
N2: Shoot Aristophanes.
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:10 am

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Ah, you were right, that was discussed in day 2, sorry.

Now that I give it some thought, I think that the night 1 analysis is not that useful after all.

No harm for more info, though.

I'll redo mine:

N1: No action
N2: Redirected everything on Wisdom onto Persivul.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:15 am

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PERSIVUL, I KNOW YOU'RE THERE. COME TALK TO US.

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