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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:25 am

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Well, thats just it. You havent got a case on me, but here we have an excellent example of you acting like you.

We'll just leave it to the other players to look it over.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:29 am

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In post 156, Heat wrote:No ones rly been talking to me either but w/e

Yo AI, wanna explain that reads list?



@Heat
- what do you make of my initial reads compared to how you have read their early play?
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AlwaysInnocent [town-lean] (I had initial problems with his playstyle, but after re-reading his posts I am seeing town-motivation in his interactions)
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Ircher [town-lean] (after the confusion with his use of "most scummy"/"scummiest" clarified, I like his reactions better - more natural, less illogical)
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AxleGreaser [null-town-lean] (I like his attention to detail and his close perspective of people's position. He is happy to follow up his questioning until fully satisfied. I feel like his probing has purpose.)
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:33 am

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In post 170, pisskop wrote:Blitz 11 - AI had in depth reads an analysis. He made judgements after publicly displaying his logic
Scum AI pushes people with the least amount of work possible. He calls people scum and finds reasons to scumread them, but his thought process is one-way and his intent to lynch is made clear without the fluff of overanalysis.

I'll gives these games a thorough read through within the next 48 hours.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:34 am

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Sure. And ask yourself: if he 'learned' from his playthrough, why is he acting this way again; nevermind alignment?
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:35 am

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all of you, not just him. he still needs sorting.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:38 am

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In post 176, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 156, Heat wrote:No ones rly been talking to me either but w/e

Yo AI, wanna explain that reads list?



@Heat
- what do you make of my initial reads compared to how you have read their early play?
In post 97, Keyser Söze wrote:
Initial reads

AlwaysInnocent [town-lean] (I had initial problems with his playstyle, but after re-reading his posts I am seeing town-motivation in his interactions)
Spoiler:
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Ircher [town-lean] (after the confusion with his use of "most scummy"/"scummiest" clarified, I like his reactions better - more natural, less illogical)
Spoiler:
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AxleGreaser [null-town-lean] (I like his attention to detail and his close perspective of people's position. He is happy to follow up his questioning until fully satisfied. I feel like his probing has purpose.)
Spoiler:
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I am in class and will answer this after when I get home.
Just letting you know that I've seen it
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:50 am

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Few more minor observations


I feel like
massive
is still caught in pre-game. I look forward to his full catch-up.

Raskolnikov
has made two big reactions so far... would like to hear the thinking behind them.

I liked
Deus Asmoth's
early conclusions.

Has anyone seen these guys?:
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:57 am

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Pisskop, why did you feel like giving up when it was apparently so "obvious" that I was scum setting you up? And now you suddenly decide to counterattack?

I don't believe it for a second. My guess is that your scum buddies talked some sense into you. They probably told you that your self vote was bad, but that it wasn't too late to turn the tables, that you might be able to lynch me instead.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:58 am

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Prods have been sent to lilac and Burning_Earth.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:02 am

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???

your response to my point that you have no case is to try to claim a well placed selfvote is scummy? :|


Everthing youre pushing is narrative ridden. youre inserting emotions and painting it as black and acting in your scumgame i listed above
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:06 am

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In post 182, AlwaysInnocent wrote:I don't believe it for a second. My guess is that
your scum buddies talked some sense into you
. They probably told you that your self vote was bad, but that it wasn't too late to turn the tables, that you might be able to lynch me instead.

I believe Dierfire has to tell us if scum have day-chat.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:11 am

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Oh, right. I thought it was fairly common nowadays.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:12 am

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I think in larger games, yes, mini-normals, less likely.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:12 am

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If Pisskop is town, then I am the freaking Pope.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:13 am

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In post 146, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 131, Raskolnikov wrote:WTF why are you guys lynching pisskop
UNVOTE:

No one is lynching anyone (there were 5 votes). Again, a suspicious overreaction
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That's bs he was L-1.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:15 am

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FOS on Performer for talking about irrelevant stuff all game.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:16 am

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In post 189, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 146, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 131, Raskolnikov wrote:WTF why are you guys lynching pisskop
UNVOTE:

No one is lynching anyone (there were 5 votes). Again, a suspicious overreaction
+1

That's bs he was L-1.
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Did you really think pisskop was going to get lynched based on two RVS votes, 1 early scum-case, a sheep vote and a self-vote (L-2)?

It was a 'big' reaction for a 'nothing' wagon.

Again, you exercise an overreaction.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:22 am

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Keysor are you trying to not take responsibility for your vote because it was a sheep?
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:24 am

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You're looking worse with every post.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:25 am

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Townreading Heat and UTL at this point.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:27 am

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Raskolnikov, what are your reads? Please more than just a few. You are attacking Keyser now. I think he is town. What do you think about the rest of the players aside from Performer?
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:28 am

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In post 192, Raskolnikov wrote:Keysor are you trying to not take responsibility for your vote because it was a sheep?

I am fully aware of my sheep vote, AlwaysInnocent's argument, the 2 RVS votes and the self vote.

Your inability to subtract 7 from 5, and failure to explain your overreaction is what concerns me. Did you think pisskop was geniunely in threat of being lynched based on the wagon that was on him?
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:34 am

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In post 152, massive wrote:Humorous since you essentially did exactly this with my question for Keyser Soze.


Its frickin late here but from memory that was after he answered, and i had a think about whether I cut across what you were doing or not.

but now that you have clarified your intent i think I may be able to help a little. if you looked at kaiser and noobs in noobs when he was say an IC or an Se that might actually be different to here. I'd go look at some other game out of the road to rome and see how he interacts with them.
My fuzzy wuzzy 4:33 AM memory thinks i have feel for his noob interaction style from what I have seen. Ill get back to you tomorrow my time if thats not right.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:37 am

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In post 194, Raskolnikov wrote:Townreading Heat and UTL at this point.

Why?
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:41 am

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and yeah Ill be back.. i have had time critical things on my plate a bit.

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