Mini 1755: Game Over

[Keyser Söze]

Why Boonskiies and lilac?

Their slots have been replaced. Scum are more likely to be inctive than town.

Inactivity is usually

non-alignment indicative

... but yes, a good tactic for scum is to lurk. However, Burning_Earth and lilac had hardly posted (4 posts between them), so they can't be accused of lurking.

Keysor I didn't like earlier from 1 post that I responded to but skimming her ISO she's ok.

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56 posts and only a null read?

I am a little surprised he hasn't mentioned me considering I am leading wagon and

I think the counterwagon to his

so that's weird.

Please explain the "counterwagon" part - who do you think is leading a counterwagon away from pisskop's wagon?

Ircher is still bad

for his interaction with the PK wagon a while ago.

Deus I went over. Initially overanalyses/nitpicks which I don't like that early in the game.

Joining PK wagon was meh since it was policy

, but it's believable she cares and so is passable.

Why is Ircher "bad" but Deus Asmoth "meh" in regard their respective "policy" push on pisskop?

[AxleGreaser]

They are not "leading" - I wanted you to share your thoughts on three of the latest heated events/exchanges/attacks.

Well only meant in the sense of commenting on those people within just the context of vs. Which narrows how i usually analyse the game.
whatever.

[AxleGreaser]

this gained me a better understanding of how he is reading certain players, compared to my own

and you will get that from me.

just as here

However, I liked post 288 though - you are using outside-game information to explicitly aid your read of pisskop (meta-defence) - I can see purpose here.

but not in talking about a A vs B interaction analysis.

What i meant is probably clearer now.

[Keyser Söze]

What i meant is probably clearer now.

Yes

[pisskop]

man you guys really overthink this stuff.


deus/ai are where we should be.

[pisskop]

And the ras wagon is kinda crap and i havent split it between the poor logics and the sc pushes yet

[Keyser Söze]

"sc"?

What's your read of Raskolnikov outside of his wagon so far?

[Deus Asmoth]

Droog,

You say you don't see anything of value in the pisskop wagon and you've got pisskop as a neutral read, but you're still fine with him being lynched. Why?

[droog]

Droog,

You say you don't see anything of value in the pisskop wagon and you've got pisskop as a neutral read, but you're still fine with him being lynched. Why?

He will play this way all game
Trolling / shit posting is howned he gets reads
If anything associations on Pk are more useful than Pkwy

He just works better dead than Live
also I'm not against a wagon
Just giving him more attention

[Keyser Söze]

deus/

ai

are where we should be.

Let's go back to here...

Blitz 11 - AI had in depth reads an analysis. He made judgements after publicly displaying his logic
Scum AI pushes people with the least amount of work possible. He calls people scum and finds reasons to scumread them, but his thought process is one-way and his intent to lynch is made clear without the fluff of overanalysis.

@pisskop

- please quote and analyze AlwaysInnocent's posts from this game, juxtaposed with his posts from his scum-game.

I need to see this clearly to be convinced.

[pisskop]

no. just go look at the clear difference and compare here

[massive]

The point of this post is we both now have some hope this idea >if it becomes more relevant< is certainly alive D2 and beyond. Watch.

Yeah, it's definitely something to keep on the back burner for now. I was more interested when the connection between the two seemed very strong at the beginning of the game, but it's become less important now as they've moved apart from each other.

jumps in the game after things have happened
has clearly read it
ignores the most interesting parts

Your catchup posts before this are about the RQS at the beginning and some Ircher comments. Are these the "most interesting parts" I failed to comment on?

droog's page 12 observations are all finely tuned and accurate (none of his unique opinions look reachy).

Why do you find this a town tell? What does "accurate" mean in this sentence?

I want to vote either Ras or Deus. Deus moreso, but as I think I will have trouble rallying anyone other than pisskop to that train :

VOTE: Raskol

[Keyser Söze]

no.

Ill make sure I explicitly say it from now on. I usually try to leave just enough out for people to make the logcial leap.

[pisskop]

im nit going to do this light metadive for you, lest I be accused of cherrypicking. You have links, not clicking on2 links is laziness or disintrest. which is it?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Pisskop, is this your first scum game on this site? Or have you been scum before?

[pisskop]

heysus hes not reading > :[

[pisskop]

can droog take his head out his rump qnd stop taking what amounts to an eady reason to policy vote?

oerformer, can you at least tell me what you think of the games I linked?

boons goodspeed

[Dierfire]

VOTE COUNT 1.09

Raskolnikov (4): Ircher, Performer, Keyser Söze, massive
Pisskop (3): AlwaysInnocent, Deus Asmoth, droog
AlwaysInnocent (2): Heat, pisskop
Ircher (1): Raskolnikov

No Vote (3): UpTooLate, AxleGreaser, Boonskiies

With 13 players living it takes 7/13 votes to lynch.

TIMER

(expired on 2016-01-20 12:00:00)

NOTES

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[pisskop]

cmon, suddenly everyone feels like not posting once I call out AI for his not reading the game and baseless claims to my own game? If hes town here I vastly overestimated him

[AlwaysInnocent]

cmon, suddenly everyone feels like not posting once I call out AI for his not reading the game and baseless claims to my own game? If hes town here I vastly overestimated him

Alright, Pisskop. What is your read on UpTooLate?

[pisskop]

undecided. Some looks bad some better.

From what point in time are you comparing my play here to?

[AlwaysInnocent]

undecided. Some looks bad some better.

From what point in time are you comparing my play here to?

Why would town-Pisskop self-vote to prove a point? Can you tell me?

[droog]

hasnt he already?

[pisskop]

Exactly. You dont know me. Youve played one game with me and one game I modded.

you were up in arms from the moment I called you out as sassing people

Spoiler:

VOTE: Ircher

OMGUS

I am town this time. Pinky swear.

Strange that Axle asked Keyser about fake claim, during RVS. Never seen this happen before.

Yeah, it seemed a bit uncalled for. Not sure what to make of it.

Heat is scum too. He probably wants an easy lynch. Highly opportunistic.

What does my selfvote have to do with your initial reaction to me?

[droog]

To let yu guys tie your own knots and to follow my established meta.

@Pisskop
You talking to me?

The suggestion of PLing someone has nothing to do with if they're scum or not. It's more of "This person is a troll who is making the game extremely unpleasant." It has nothing to do with right or wrong.

Yea. I had hoped it was obvious enough even you could pick up on it?

Its about reactions. You going to walk into more of those setups?

ai i want you to answer pk here

AI has completely neglected to follow up here:

This is so not your town game.

And in general this town is bad.