UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[3dicerolling]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait one fucking minute. Are we not going to use the dreamer power today? Am I missing something?

It has already been used.

[RolePlay25]

You claimed bulletproof?

[3dicerolling]

Or at least dav claims to have received a gun which he can't shoot or something.

[Cerberus v666]

Yeah...umm...it has been used, and you claimed bulletproof(not that I doubt our dreamers ability to dream a strongman shot).

Yeha, what 3dice said. Dav claims that his role prevents him from assisting in any kills, essentially. That is why even though he has a vote, he doesn't count towards a hammer(because that means he's part of a killing action, I guess). Same thing keeps him from actually shooting that gun at anyone. He might be able to use it on himself, idk. He should ask the mod. save us a lynch at least.

[Davsto]

I'll attempt to kill myself when the time comes which I would need to be lynched otherwise

But honestly I doubt the game will get to that point

[RolePlay25]

Okay, lets look at this claim.

It's a third party claim that doesn't

quite

alignment shift, but definitely y'know, alignment shifts. Can be either town or scum, based on alignment of target.

Moderator: Could a role have its win condition altered such that depending on in-game events that role would either effectively be aligned with the town or scum? Or would that be effectively alignment shift, and thus bastard?

Anyway, even looking at that... it tells me nearly nothing. Muffin targeted him, then... became a non-entity. He's fallen off the face of the planet. And if I had that role, there's NO WAY I would think that I would win with the scum. I mean it basically says you share the alignment of the person who targets you. So it would really be obvious from the outset you didn't win with whoever. And why would you claim survivor over that? That's a much better claim than survivor, but survivor was the first claim you went to?

No, if you have that role, muffin targeted you and is scum, and you now have the scum win condition. I tend to doubt it though.

Nice claim. Nice gambit. A different time, a different game, a town in a worse situation, and it might have worked, especially if your first choice wasn't survivor.

[RolePlay25]

And why would you need to stay alive, but then say you bodyguard someone?

I mean that's pretty contradictory. I'm a survivor bodyguard? What, Dramonic hates you and didn't want you to win the game?

[RolePlay25]

Sorry, survivor compulsive bodyguard with no choice in target.

That's better.

[Cerberus v666]

LH, 3dice, hammer? RP is going off on aspects of what's been said that he misunderstood again, and I simply do not have the energy to correct him this time.

[RolePlay25]

I'll attempt to kill myself when the time comes which I would need to be lynched otherwise

But honestly I doubt the game will get to that point

I mean like it will.

Especially since the pro-town utility of you trying to get yourself lynched yesterday falls off when the alternative was an itle lynch.

But like... still think you're town, but yes, you'll die sooner or later. Quite happy with later.

[RolePlay25]

LH, 3dice, hammer? RP is going off on aspects of what's been said that he misunderstood again, and I simply do not have the energy to correct him this time.

I dunno. I'm trying to work this one out, to see if there's any way it adds up with the actions I've seen versus what he claimed. I mean the claim has been modified so many times that it's hard to tell.

I don't think it does.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, and davsto: if EAP flips as a non-killing 3p, and LH isn't scum...this game isn't nearly as close to finished as you seem to think it is. :-/

I'll explain it tomorrow RP, if we're both alive. If not, i'll explain it in post game. The crux of it was that as a survivor, he's best off if he aligns himself with the team that seems to have the advantage, and after we shot scum yesterday, it seemed to be with town. After we lynched scum AND shot scum, it was definitely with town.

The whole "I win with town" thing is just dumb semantics, survivors win when a team achieves a win condition that ends the game and they're still alive. So, technically, yes, he wins with town.

[Edgar Allan Pro]

Okay, lets look at this claim.

It's a third party claim that doesn't

quite

alignment shift, but definitely y'know, alignment shifts. Can be either town or scum, based on alignment of target.

Moderator: Could a role have its win condition altered such that depending on in-game events that role would either effectively be aligned with the town or scum? Or would that be effectively alignment shift, and thus bastard?

Anyway, even looking at that... it tells me nearly nothing. Muffin targeted him, then... became a non-entity. He's fallen off the face of the planet. And if I had that role, there's NO WAY I would think that I would win with the scum. I mean it basically says you share the alignment of the person who targets you. So it would really be obvious from the outset you didn't win with whoever. And why would you claim survivor over that? That's a much better claim than survivor, but survivor was the first claim you went to?

No, if you have that role, muffin targeted you and is scum, and you now have the scum win condition. I tend to doubt it though.

Nice claim. Nice gambit. A different time, a different game, a town in a worse situation, and it might have worked, especially if your first choice wasn't survivor.

Oh shit. That really WOULD be clever. Why wouldn't I have claimed that? Maybe something stops me from claiming that. Whoooooooo caaaaaaaaan saaaaaaaaaay

[Cerberus v666]

Hmm. I'd really like it if a lot of people were talking more. I hate seeing the disconnect, it feels like we have apathy on day fucking 2 already. :-/

[3dicerolling]

Yo yo yo yo yo

[Jeanne11]

Ah ah ah ah ah

[Edgar Allan Pro]

I am literally seething with anger that RP is so clever. -w-

[Varsoon]

Also; the whole point of the game is to be miserable.
Survivor compulsive bodyguard is the most miserable.

[Jeanne11]

Anybody gonna hammer?

[Edgar Allan Pro]

I would hammer myself, but I think people have the chance to rethink things now. owo

[RolePlay25]

Oh shit. That really WOULD be clever. Why wouldn't I have claimed that? Maybe something stops me from claiming that. Whoooooooo caaaaaaaaan saaaaaaaaaay

Man like only one other person has claimed to be restricted from saying shit. Oddly also listed in KC's translation role.

HI FIREBRINGER

Anyway, if that is your win condition, I'd be like angry on your behalf with the mods and shit, because that's not miserable, that's just like dumber than Ganondorf.

Hmm. I'd really like it if a lot of people were talking more. I hate seeing the disconnect, it feels like we have apathy on day fucking 2 already. :-/

Well no one gives a shit except Jeanne, you, me and LH. That's what happens when you get a cop guilty. Scum can't do much, town don't care.

[3dicerolling]

EAP - Let's say, theoretically, you are a reflexive compulsive bodyguard survivor. You win with whoever. Why should we assume that muffin isn't scum? It would be more beneficial for you to survive if scum targets you because you know scum isn't going to kill another scum.

[Edgar Allan Pro]

EAP - Let's say, theoretically, you are a reflexive compulsive bodyguard survivor. You win with whoever. Why should we assume that muffin isn't scum? It would be more beneficial for you to survive if scum targets you because you know scum isn't going to kill another scum.

Hey, man: You can cop muffin if you wanna. Then he will probably be double confirmed and bullet proof. Oh fuck, can someone just cop muffin and then not kill me if he flips town?

[RolePlay25]

EAP - Let's say, theoretically, you are a reflexive compulsive bodyguard survivor. You win with whoever. Why should we assume that muffin isn't scum? It would be more beneficial for you to survive if scum targets you because you know scum isn't going to kill another scum.

Hey, man: You can cop muffin if you wanna. Then he will probably be double confirmed and bullet proof. Oh fuck, can someone just cop muffin and then not kill me if he flips town?

Sure, that'd be awesome.

I mean if we trusted you.

But we don't.

[Edgar Allan Pro]

Pffffffffffff

You are such a little shit, RP.