Vote: SirCakez
I've spent the game up until now considering between SS and Titus, thinking there was probably scum between them, but this suddenly makes A LOT more sense. The backtrack from
to
In post 194, SirCakez wrote:SS I'm saying you jumped votes too easily for how apparently confident you were in your scumreads. No conviction in actually pushing a wagon through on the person being voted.
is just amazing. Like, MAYBE I could understand accidentally saying "Townies usually have confidence in their scumreads." if it were a thing that made sense, since it's certainly a related concept. But then when you look back at SirCakez's posts, you see that he's scumreading 3 of the 4 people voting him and I don't buy for a second that he's
confident
that the scum in a white flag setup decided it would be a good idea to almost singlehandedly create a counterwagon to try to save one of their own who looked/looks like he's going to be lynched early. And he was
confident
of this happening by the start of page 6? I think the MUCH more likely scenario is that he looked at his own play, saw his own supposed confidence in his reads, and made an overly-broad statement based off of it to paint SS as scum without thinking if it made sense. When called on it, he backtracked to a replacement stance that itself is a stretch (as was more or less
pointed out by someone else already) and that was likely retroactively fit to SS's posts.
Looking back further through conf-biased glasses, I noticed that all of SirCakez scum reads are players whose playstyles are likely to draw suspicion regardless of alignment. I haven't played with SirCakez so I don't know if he just always finds these players scummy en masse, but it's worth noting. Most notably, as far as I can tell, he's scumreading AI for having bad reads, when AI's playstyle seems to be to scumread whoever scumreads him. I honestly don't know how anyone can have a "confident" read on a player like that at this point in the game, but I think I might be projecting a bit now and should actually look at SirCakez's other games.
@Titus
If your tell is based on literally 2 games, I think it's time to reconsider it. SS's claiming you're scum with the same person you claimed he's scum with on page 1 (based on the idea that you're
distancing
on page 1, no less) does very much read as an actual joke to me, so unless the act of making that joke is scummy in some way based on your past experience, that particular reason for SS to be scum is pretty silly. If your tell does have to do with the joke itself being scummy, I would be really interested in seeing it though if you have non-ongoing game examples of it. I actually wonder now if the tell you're thinking of is a misattribution of the scumminess of the half-serious RVS tell, but I haven't checked the games you mentioned.
@Extrapolated Eagle
The first time you mentioned me, you said I was "likely town". The second time you mentioned me, you said that you "still think [I'm] maybe scum". Explain?
