Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)


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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:36 am

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In post 374, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 373, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.

Uhhhhh
What seems to be the problem?

I think the problem is pretty obvious. That vote is terrible >.>
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:05 am

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In post 375, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 374, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 373, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.

Uhhhhh
What seems to be the problem?

I think the problem is pretty obvious. That vote is terrible >.>
No, it's not. It's a vote on scum.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:43 am

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In post 376, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 375, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 374, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 373, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.

Uhhhhh
What seems to be the problem?

I think the problem is pretty obvious. That vote is terrible >.>
No, it's not. It's a vote on scum.

So I'm guessing you have a better reason than "I'm never townread by town"?
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:43 am

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In post 377, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 376, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 375, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 374, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 373, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.

Uhhhhh
What seems to be the problem?

I think the problem is pretty obvious. That vote is terrible >.>
No, it's not. It's a vote on scum.

So I'm guessing you have a better reason than "I'm never townread by town"?
Probably.
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:44 am

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In post 378, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 377, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 376, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 375, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 374, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 373, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.

Uhhhhh
What seems to be the problem?

I think the problem is pretty obvious. That vote is terrible >.>
No, it's not. It's a vote on scum.

So I'm guessing you have a better reason than "I'm never townread by town"?
Probably.

Care to share?
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:06 am

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Town

Something_Smart-
Objectively very protown.
Titus-
Super confident in a wrong conclusion, and her analysis seems very genuine. Scum would probably be more concerned with keeping up her image when her push succeeds and I flip town.
Cerberus v666-
The other extreme from Titus. They're so cautious and impartial in a game where it would be easy to hop on one wagon or the other with little explanation (and they have provided plenty of explanation). They're trying to avoid being biased, and I would say that they are the most likely to come to the correct conclusion today, for the correct reasons.
Droog-
Nothing wrong with droog's play thus far. His argument with Cerberus over avatars gives him an "I don't care" feeling that indicates town. And he's got a fair amount of valid analysis.
Extrapolated Eagle-
I don't see anything wrong with his play either. He hasn't adopted a uniquely towny viewpoint but I'm willing to put him as town for now.

Null

Pistachi0n-
Very little content. Hasn't changed or even reconsidered her vote in a long time. I would be interested to see her reads.
NotAnAlt-
Something about em just rubs me the wrong way. E hasn't contributed much and eir 180 smells suspiciously of whiteknighting.
PhantomCobalt-
Basically a non-presence beyond his early vote on me for debating his associative resolution. Like pistachi0n, I would like to see him reconsider his reads.
Yonom-
Seems to be trying to formulate a serious case on me where there is none. I've already mentioned what makes me uneasy about 333. However, one redeeming factor is that she has several times conceded my points, which she would have no reason to do if she was intent on mislynching me.

Scum

TheCow-
A lot of annoying unsupported statements, particularly about droog. Gives random reads without explaining them.
RhazhBash-
My minicase in 70 still applies, the meta read on Cakez is suspect, and seems to be trying to make me appear self-contradictory and scummy.
SirCakez-
This read has been discussed a lot. Needling me in order to get me to say something that can be misquoted or misrepresented later, the whole "townies should be confident deal", and using general statements as proof. However, I do like his reads; if you are town, Cakez, I would recommend you reread Yonom because your read on her seems to based on her saying what you were thinking. I'm not actually sure her motivation is towny.
AlwaysInnocent-
Ridiculous buddying/whiteknighting me; random, unsupported reads; "I am never townread by town"; utter lack of scumhunting.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:12 am

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Titus should be read as null for being super confident
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:54 pm

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I don't know why you're scum reading always innocent. I think it's pretty obvious they're town.

And the cow was a decent vote, IMO. I'm kind of null on then right now. Would like to see some reason from that slot.

@SS I like your reads this way round a bit better. I still think you're scum, unfortunately.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:02 pm

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AI has not done anything protown all game. Why should he be townread?
AI, if you actually want to help town, you could make a case as to why I am town. That would benefit us both.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:04 pm

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I don't understand AI townreads at all. Guy has been absurdly scummy all game.
Phantom why does super confidence = null?
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:06 pm

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I think because Titus always does that. But that's not the only read for that read.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:47 pm

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In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.


....Yeah, other people have already said this is really bad, and I'm going to agree with them. This is awful. It seems like you're trying to seem like you know you're town by making enemies with someone who's townreading you. It reeks of some kind of gambit, probably scum.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:54 pm

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Read List 1.2


{AlwaysInnocent}

{Something_Smart, Cerberus v666}

{RhazhBash, Yonom}

{Viva La Gloria, Victor_Mortimer}

{SirCakez, Phantom}

{Titus, pistachi0n}

{TheCow, NotAnAlt}
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:55 pm

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In post 386, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.


....Yeah, other people have already said this is really bad, and I'm going to agree with them. This is awful. It seems like you're trying to seem like you know you're town by making enemies with someone who's townreading you. It reeks of some kind of gambit, probably scum.
It is actually an excellent vote. All the reactions I get have been worth it.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:56 pm

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In post 388, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 386, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.


....Yeah, other people have already said this is really bad, and I'm going to agree with them. This is awful. It seems like you're trying to seem like you know you're town by making enemies with someone who's townreading you. It reeks of some kind of gambit, probably scum.
It is actually an excellent vote. All the reactions I get have been worth it.


So you were reaction testing? What have you learned?
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:56 pm

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AI, why are you ignoring your top townread? Please explain your read on me.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 390, Something_Smart wrote:AI, why are you ignoring your top townread? Please explain your read on me.
Same explanation I gave about Cerberus.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 389, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 388, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 386, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 371, AlwaysInnocent wrote:VOTE: TheCow

I am never townread by town.


....Yeah, other people have already said this is really bad, and I'm going to agree with them. This is awful. It seems like you're trying to seem like you know you're town by making enemies with someone who's townreading you. It reeks of some kind of gambit, probably scum.
It is actually an excellent vote. All the reactions I get have been worth it.


So you were reaction testing? What have you learned?
Reaction testing + voting scum.
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:04 pm

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Yeah SS is right Titus is always super confident regardless of alignment
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:10 pm

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I know you were reaction testing, I'm asking what you've learned from the reactions you got.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:12 pm

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In post 394, pistachi0n wrote:I know you were reaction testing, I'm asking what you've learned from the reactions you got.
Obviously it informed my recently updated read list.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:18 pm

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AI that reads list is so obviously half-assed that you didn't even bother to substitute in replacements.
Half-assing reads is basically a scumclaim because it indicates that your reads are fake.
What did you even say about Cerberus? Stop dodging the question and just give a few sentences explaining why you are so sure I am town.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:18 pm

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Okay, but what about my and other people's reactions caused you to change your reads?
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:35 pm

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In post 396, Something_Smart wrote:AI that reads list is so obviously half-assed that you didn't even bother to substitute in replacements.
I forgot.

Half-assing reads is basically a scumclaim because it indicates that your reads are fake.
They are not fake. To think this is a "scumclaim" is plainly absurd.

What did you even say about Cerberus? Stop dodging the question and just give a few sentences explaining why you are so sure I am town.
You insist on knowing why I townread you. Scum generally don't care, like I said before. It is not so hard to understand. I think I have made this clear more than once already.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:37 pm

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In post 397, pistachi0n wrote:Okay, but what about my and other people's reactions caused you to change your reads?
It's a secret.
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