UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[Cerberus v666]

Rp, you realize how suspect it is that you insist LH be given the desperado, rather than yourself? You want to ensure they die, NOT ensure that scum dies. If you wanted to ensure scum died, and were certain of their alignmenr, you'd ask for the gun yourself and shoot them.

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Your answer makes me believe you are mistaken about what occurred RP.

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Cool. Means you're town. 100%. Your reference to it as a gadget made me think perhaps someone else did something, and I didn't want to confirm what I was looking for before you were explicit about it.

This is why I don't want LH given a gun, because without me confirming you're town, she'd shoot you and thus die, and I think they're town.

Also, you're welcome.

[Cerberus v666]

LH, RP is conftown. Super duper cop confirmed town type stuff.

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Really making me regret not working on LH instead last night just to stop this shit, but I knww tend just try to get you lynched because theyre more suspicious of me than you. Seriously, I want to end this noise about the two of you. :/ let's focus out attention elsewhere please.

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3dicerolling
Elbirn
DiamondSentinel
Firebringer
Shiro

Why are they town again?

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...ths is stupid. Firebringer, wtf man? :/ assuming you did attempt to shoot LH, with a desperado, you wasted if. If you instead targeted yourself with a killing action, you were playing against win con.

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There's nothing funny about this DS.

@mod: Please confirm that FB wasn't playing against win con. I need to know whether I need to go get him banned.

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No. We lynch mass flop, if anyone.

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Because EAP cleared zmuffin, and I see absolutely no reason why he wouldn't have sold him out to save his own life as third party.

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Rp, you simply don't understand how I play. The evidence is far stronger that zmuffin waa town than anyone else, except for KC and yourself. As far as I'm concerned, we currently have 4 probable-conftown: LH, RP, KC, and Zmuffin.

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Rp, you simply don't understand how I play. The evidence is far stronger that zmuffin waa town than anyone else, except for KC and yourself. As far as I'm concerned, we currently have 4 probable-conftown: LH, RP, KC, and Zmuffin.

Why RP in that list?

Your answer makes me believe you are mistaken about what occurred RP.

Interesting. Very well then, I have a neighborhood topic with another player. Neither of us have the ability to neighborize.

Cool. Means you're town. 100%. Your reference to it as a gadget made me think perhaps someone else did something, and I didn't want to confirm what I was looking for before you were explicit about it.

This is why I don't want LH given a gun, because without me confirming you're town, she'd shoot you and thus die, and I think they're town.

Also, you're welcome.

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Yeah.

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isn't LH confscum? did I misunderstand?

Why would LH be confscum?

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So, EAPS clear on zmuffin is null. Cool. Don't particularly mind lynching him then. I feel like I could probably solve the game at this point if I had the time to dive into the absurd amount of content so far.

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KC, if EAPs win con became winning with scum ONLY, then there is no evidence. If he was just a survivor there is strong evidence..

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I'm still fond of a mass claim, fyi all. :p

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*headdesk*

No one told fb to desperado anyone
He was told to give a desperado to someone else

...was he told "give a desperado to LH"?, and he presumably submitted "Desperado learned hand"? Did anyone tell him to give a desperado to anyone else, like RP maybe? Or dav?

Like we don't even have confirmation of what he did and we have to just fucking assume lh is town and everything went according to plan and I'm going to hurt people if we get to the end of this and LH was scum after all

Fucking firebringer you fuck
Fucking dram hosting a bastard game as non-bastard

Fucking learned Hand being two people I actually quite admire, doing fuck all

Fucking
Fuck

Fuck

You are a troll mod.

I'm just gonna note that while this probably shouldn't have been said and is too game related, this sure hints at things not going to plan

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I agree with that statement. 100%. All I've seen them do is argue with RP, and it's disappointing.

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Yeah, I waa just thinking of him as a regular survivor, not the weird has motive to win with a particular faction hybrid thing he claimed to be..that made it unlikely that he would actually protect scum rather than just letting us lynch them.

I do feel that you are a bit emotionally invested though. First you went after LH, who you argued with a bunch and insulted and shit. And now that it seems probable that LH is town, you go after zmuffin first, the other person who you argued with and insulted a bunch. :/

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I don't think I ever called you scum! I've had healthy suspicions.

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*shrug* any weirdness from him was almost certainly partially due to Varsoon not being here for basically anything up until they were almost lynched and apparently not even knowing the day had started. Going from oh, time to catch up to oh, I guess we're going to get lynched kinda fucks everything up.

Pedit: the elbirn rb last night was weird for scum, true. He's not a priority. 3dice needs rereading. DS and Shiro are both suspect, sure. As I said, it all requires reading. :/

Pedit: who are you talking to right there?

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...read my answer to your question LH. Try to stay on top of the game please. It's getting really old to have to tell people thinks they should already know because they were JUST discussed.

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Rp, you simply don't understand how I play. The evidence is far stronger that zmuffin waa town than anyone else, except for KC and yourself. As far as I'm concerned, we currently have 4 probable-conftown: LH, RP, KC, and Zmuffin.

Why RP in that list?

Your answer makes me believe you are mistaken about what occurred RP.

Interesting. Very well then, I have a neighborhood topic with another player. Neither of us have the ability to neighborize.

Cool. Means you're town. 100%. Your reference to it as a gadget made me think perhaps someone else did something, and I didn't want to confirm what I was looking for before you were explicit about it.

This is why I don't want LH given a gun, because without me confirming you're town, she'd shoot you and thus die, and I think they're town.

Also, you're welcome.

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The same way EAP not receiving a neighborhood made him guaranteed NOT town..

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Hmm, there's a rather high probability that that hydra is the most literate thing on this site. Just....fyi.

I'm going to sleep. I'll try to actually read the pertinent isos tomorrow.

[Cerberus v666]

Strongest argument for elbirn as town is roleblocking you last night. Little reason for scum to rb a claimed vt, particularly since I took an action before which, though it just caught 3p, could have easily caught scum instead.

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Sure, Wifom is a thing. Considering his role also tells the person who he targeted that he's the one who stopped them, too. Hmm. Valid point that I hadn't considered.

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Double clears on rp. How fun.

Elbirn: mechanically, X is not confirmed town by virtue of being in a pt with RP. They may be town for other reasons..

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sorry Shiro.

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RP, what do you mean? Us not trusting you? You realize I had more going on than just checking you.

3dice whoever you want.

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Umm. Level of town power makes me think I wouldn't be completely surprised if there were actually 5 scum. Just...yeah. 3dice pgo could have wrecked us (btw umm, why the hell didn't you claim that?), and we have lots of ways to mess with each other it seems, but still. ...

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Hmm. Touche. We do have a voteless and a vt and an amnesiac miller who gets power if he gets saved by a doctor, which seems to have only existed as something fb could do, unless the dr just decided to not save jeanne last night and scumread shiro so they didn't give him powers.

Pedit: you know me Titus. I'm very happy with extending a day and talking more.

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Sure, there are better ways to do investigative. My point is that an investigative is better than this stupid obsession with desperado gunning everything, unless the person shooting is ALSO suspect.

Nothing I'm doing is helpful to scum, unless LH is scum. That is a point we disagree on. Don't say what I'm doing is something when the truth of that matter is unknown.

Shiro: please define the limits of your miller claim. Ask the mod these questions wirh refards to the specific flavir of millee you have: Will you always show up as guilty, regardless of investigation type? Are you just guilty to straight cop claims? Does every ability react as though you were scum? (Example, would this desperado em think you're scum and shoot you, or would it kill the one doing the ahooting?

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[Cerberus v666]

Drixx: RP clear is infallible. It will not be fooled by a godfather.

I would give more details, but I don't think there's any benefit to explaining the mechanics. Either you believe me and my results, or you don't.

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Also I'm all for twiddling our thumbs for another 2 or 3 days and figuring out who the last scum is via day play like a buncha bosses

Also town far too OP this game

I've kicked around the idea of there being 5 scum and the fifth being a non-killing goon who can't vote, but Dave seems town and overall I can't think why the scum team wouldn't have hard bussed him. Unless that's what Mass Flop was doing day 1 and they were so fucking bad at this they couldn't even get the right scumbuddy lynched.

I think tomorrow we have a lot more information to go off of.

Although - Cerberus, if anyone gets shot in this town, it's really really likely to be you. For tomorrow, what's the indication that your power has functioned on another player? Will they be in a topic with another townie, similar to mine?

The individual who you're in the pt with will have more information. I recommend you ask them. I would prefer to not share that in thread.

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please unvote KC. We want to hear the input of the LH slot. You're setting Mass Flop up to self hammer and deny us that.

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I'm town fuck you all

Claimed cop guilty on you. 1v1 here. He looks better than you by basically every metric. If you flip town, he's hanging tomorrow.

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Lol. That actually makes perfect sense. Hmm. How does your role thief relate to your early knowledge of roleblocks/redirectors?

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@mod: Do Role Thieves steal the entirety of their targets role, including passives, or just their active abilities?

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What was the explanation?

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Does the target of the steal lose the ability to use their power? Do you "vanillaize" them? Do yo uhave unlimited uses of it? Do you only have the ability to use it on the night after you steal? Can you steal more than once?

WHY WOULDN'T YOU STEAL THE DREAMER OF QUESTIONABLE ALIGNMENTS POWER???

[Cerberus v666]

Can you please replace out so we can have someone who isn't worthless as confirmed town.

Talking to yourself?

Seriously?

Can you just let me investigate 3dice before you rush Mass Flop to the gallows?

Investigate 3dice?

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...Why did you want the vote bookie, over the action immunizing?

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I'll grab sharky's role and you can leash me idgaf

Action immunizing is not a good role for town?

Depends on what actions you can make the immune to.

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WAIT

no

okay, yeah, fuck off mass flop, you're scum.

The guilty came from N1, not N2.

yeah. Definitely scum. Nobody vote him until LH can give us their thoughts.

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I've decided that with my claim, I'm pretty sure we can solve the game with an easy victory.

I am Luigi from Luigi's Mansion, and I'm a PGO janitor Cop.

If I'm targeted, the person who targets me will die. They will have flavor to do with vacuuming. That persons role will not flip. When I die, everyone who targeted me will flip.

As for the cop part of my role, here are my night targets:

Night 1 - Mass Flop, result: Evil

Night 2 - Roleplay, result: Innocent

I confirmed with the mod that the only results I will get are evil and innocent. I had the misconception day 2 that because I received the term evil, that it was multiball, but now I know evil could also mean Mafia.

That being said, you will notice that I started pushing Mass Flop at the VERY beginning of day 2. Even after EAP was confirmed to not be town, I still was voting them.

You will also notice that at the beginning of day 3, I said I "reread and thought about stuff" which lead me to believe Roleplay was town. This was another crumb.

At this point, with 2 scum dead, there is likely to be only 2 left. With mass flop dead, that would leave one scum. It would be suicide to kill me, so I can continue copping and last scum cannot kill me.

If you still aren't convinced, I can bring up some of my crumbs for you, but I have school now, so I can bring them up in about an hour.

What's REALLY interesting is that Itlepip claimed basically my exact role, which is why I never backed off of them after the claim.

Of course, my role can be checked by being targeted by someone, or by watching mass flop die like the scumbutt they are.

it works on dead bodies. That's why I couldn't do it on the dreamer? I can do it now...

day one I did it on TN,

day two I did it on errant?

Nice try though, the dead body explanation screwed you.

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I mean, it could be from TN's role alignment theoretically, but meh. I don't think we can just leave you alive because "Maybe the role thief stole alignment too but didn't steal the win con"

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Or that he's lying about being a pgo.

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Too many variables, it means nothing to have you act upon him.

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I have a Mod PM that confirms RP25 as a Townie.

It's also confirmed that RP was visited by 3Dice on Night 2.

Confirmed that rp was visited by 3dice? That's. ...good to know. Hmm.

Umm, I guess I'll share this, I've been uncertain if I should or not, just to let whoever did this to me remain uncertain if their power worked, but...I received a result from last night, just telling me that I'm being haunted by nightmares. I have no idea what that means. :/

[Cerberus v666]

12 hours since the last post. LH, how are you guys doing on that reads list?

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Yo Drixx, I was doing jack shit, and you walked in here and started shit with me. How about you apologize for that?

I said before that I think Titus is a bully and a toxic player, a narcissist who is in love with nothing so much as the sound of her own voice, and who twists things in a big fucking circle until she's perfect and it's everyone else's fault they dislike her. I stand by every single word. Frankly the fact that you're town means your behavior is that much worse. You weren't opportunistically jumping on the Jeanne vote train, to get a free mislynch, you were honestly willing to lynch someone because "they were noisy". You weren't scum who wanted an out on the TN thing, you legitimately wanted to shoot Cerberus because he's hard to read. You didn't ignore my case on Itle because it was a good case and you knew it, you just didn't bother to fucking read and resorted to yelling, because that's the amount of respect you have for other people's opinions. You didn't read anything I wrote yesterday not because you were scum and had no legitimate answers, you were just too fucking lazy. You didn't threaten me with moderator action and to go fetch the fucking site mods because I was wrecking your team, you just think anyone disagreeing with you and not being beaten down by your harangues should be punished by the moderators.

Both of you are

shit mafia players and

shit human beings.

If that makes it impossible to read the thread, so what?

Dramonic, please address this

. You've warned the game, and he has persisted in spite of that. I apologize for not being polite and just messaging you about this, but I'm at work and it's simply quite inconvenient to have to pull the quote into a message via my phone.

RP, your behavior isn't acceptable. There is nothing to be gained from your insults. Your opinion of anyone in this game as a person is irrelevant, amd your personal feelings about them doubly so.

Play to your win con, stop ruining everyone's game with this crap.

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Actually, quick question : are you familiar with Drixx at all? I know you said you're not familiar with me, but he's played in a lot more games here than I have.

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It's not favoritism. What you're saying is crossing the line, and what they're saying isn't. That's really all there is to it. I understand why you'd interpret things differently, but I assure you that's the situation.

Drixx, he won't apologize. Tell Titus to get her head out of her ass and help us win the game. Stop wasting game time with interactions with RP that are not focused on slots other than either of you. You each know the other is town now, so there is absolutely no game benefit to actually talking with one another about your interactions with one another.

Both of you: Talk about other people. Do not discuss the past except in relation to how those who are not conftown acted.

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Stop it. Do not fucking respond to one another unless it's about someone else. It's not a difficult thing to do..

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Fair point with regards to the identical role as the fake claim we've heard before, and I did consider that last night. However, we are in a situation right now where there was no actual reason for scum!dice to fake a guilty on Mas flop. They were going to get lynched today. Almost no chance they weren't. Why create the 1v1 on a slot which was on it's way out already? If he is bussing, and thinks he can somehow win this game versus multiple conftown and ways to create more....he's insane? Delusional?

If he's getting town killed, then that's stronger, but still leaves his team a good distance away from victory, and didn't swing a mislynch which wouldn't otherwise have happened.

He explained his thoughts that evil does not mean the same as guilty. It's weak, but not implausible. We also already had a guilty lined up, so no need to ensure we lynched properly, especially when he was uncertain. He should have DEFINITELY outed the guilty before the end of the day though, in case he died. That's shit play.

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Umm, pgo doesn't save you from dying. It just means rhe person who shot you dies too. This is dependent on the specific wording of the pgo, but it would require more than just being pgo to save you from getting killed.

Also, 3dice, being proven to be pgo does not mean you're a cop, or that you're town.

GODDAMNIT DRIXX: wtf man? Just fucking stop..put away your fucking ego and sense of what's right, and play the damn game.

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Zmuffin, stfu. You're just further instigating this. Stop it.

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Drixx. Nobody else cares. I don't care, and I'm your friend.If I don't care, and I think you're being an ass too because of your stupid ass policy of "I don't start fights but I finish them", it is highly likely everyone else thinks you're being an ass too.