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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:17 pm

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In post 621, Firebringer wrote:Something Smart has a strong read on Titus, is that really weird?
Yes, it is.

In post 603, Something_Smart wrote:I was townreading her in the beginning. Now she's kind of at null-leaning-town-unclear.

Read the thread before making comments like that.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:17 pm

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In post 624, Yonom wrote:But but... I'm not creative at all... :(

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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:17 pm

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In post 625, Something_Smart wrote:Read the thread before making comments like that.

You aint my GF, thats Titus.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:17 pm

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Fire go read the thread please, it'll be useful.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:17 pm

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By GF, I meant Godfather. Or in Titus case Godmother.
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:19 pm

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But I'm your town godmother! I always come back town to cops. Sweetie.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:21 pm

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I can walk people through my town read of Titus and cakes Tonight for doubters.

@viva I only skimmed to this point and I thought you seemed townie from wwhat I skimmed, but your reads/logic is off. just like Titus' (and maybe mine)

But ill discuss more in a bit when I have more time.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:22 pm

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Dissolving my reads lists until I reread.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:25 pm

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In post 611, Cerberus v666 wrote:I don't have a firm grasp on Titus this game. Not even a weak graap, honestly. I've played with her enough to expect to have some sort of lean one way or the other generally, but I don't this game. Her behavior differs from all my previous games with her, I think, in that she's been quite passive after that initial declaration regarding her suspicion of SS etc, but passivity is not in line with my experiences with her as either alignment. This is the second time I've seen her with a vanilla role (I generally only play theme/role madness games) though, and the other time she was hydraing with a hyperactive poster, so it's possible this is just what she does when she can't do any further scheming or planning for her play early game. She's tunneling, which is normal for her, and that's about all I can say for certain.

Basically, this is me doing this:¯\_(ツ)_/¯ with regards to her for the time being. Titus is, imo, almost always a terrible early game lynch, so I'm opposed to lynching her in general without a good reason (which viva has failed to provide), but she's not someone I'd defend based on her play..


I utterly don't understand your reasoning.

Why exactly is Titus a 'bad early game lynch' when she's scumming up the thread and pushing lynches on town?

Why shouldn't we lynch scum, whether it's Titus or someone else?

I can walk people through my town read of Titus and cakes Tonight for doubters.

@viva I only skimmed to this point and I thought you seemed townie from wwhat I skimmed, but your reads/logic is off. just like Titus' (and maybe mine)

But ill discuss more in a bit when I have more time.


wtf?

Why are you agreeing that your read and logic is off when you two are still pushing the same awful wagon?

Why did you put yourself in the arena with Titus? I'm not pushing on you.

Why is everyone WKing Titus? Someone tell me why she's town please.

Everyone who has actually looked back over her ISO has seen what I'm seeing. Let's get this going please.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:30 pm

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My PoV, I don't want to sort Titus proper yet. I'm still letting the read incubate properly. I want to figure out the strange SS->Titus relation first.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:34 pm

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Viva: because I know for a fact she's both lynch bait at times AND very strong late game. Oh and I'm confident she'll be able to be read with more certainty later in the game. You're right that if she's scum we should lynch her, but I don't see anything particularly scummy in her play. The Yonom thing is rhe closest to being scummy, amd Yonom said stuff in the middle which could have very easily changed her mind on them.

Also, you're misunderstanding whoever it was you quoted in that shitty context removed quote. He said YOUR reads are off, and so are Titus', but maybe his are too.

To be perfectly clear here: I lynch people because they're being scummy, and their actions have scum motivations, NOT because they're not being "town" enough for me. Not obvtown!=scum. Especially on D1. Later on we can PoE things and use some logic, but right now? Nope. Not good enough.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:42 pm

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In post 635, Cerberus v666 wrote:Viva: because I know for a fact she's both lynch bait at times AND very strong late game. Oh and I'm confident she'll be able to be read with more certainty later in the game. You're right that if she's scum we should lynch her, but I don't see anything particularly scummy in her play. The Yonom thing is rhe closest to being scummy, amd Yonom said stuff in the middle which could have very easily changed her mind on them.

Also, you're misunderstanding whoever it was you quoted in that shitty context removed quote. He said YOUR reads are off, and so are Titus', but maybe his are too.

To be perfectly clear here: I lynch people because they're being scummy, and their actions have scum motivations, NOT because they're not being "town" enough for me. Not obvtown!=scum. Especially on D1. Later on we can PoE things and use some logic, but right now? Nope. Not good enough.


Then why the hell is she refusing to explain her reads.
I voted her to get her to explain her shit. She did not explain her shit besides saying 'oh check my ISO' where I still find her shit utterly unexplained.
She does not get to play the "OH IM LYNCHBAIT" card and you shouldn't be playing it for her when she's utterly unable to substantiate her positions.
Why are you making excuses for her? Why is everyone making excuses for her?
Why isn't she asking questions about people making excuses for her.
She is clearly not making effort to scumhunt, her positions are clearly inauthentic. You were FoSing her and picking at her reads and all of a sudden you're townreading her?
Why?
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:46 pm

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Like, this is absolutely absurd and I don't understand what's going on.
This goes beyond people townreading her. People are expressing a variety of reads from null to scum and still making excuses and refusing to vote her.
Don't you think that if she was town at least one of those people would be like "hey we can lynch this and pin it on the replacement!"

Vote her and make her talk. I'm not saying she's 100% confirmed scum but don't enable her refusing to answer questions and deathtunnel random people play.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:46 pm

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@viva I don't think my logic is off. Perhaps some of my reads but for now I'm certain SS is scum. My Titus town read revolves around the fact that SS is scum and since I am certain beyond reasonable doubt that SS is scum, I must also quell all doubts that Titus is scum with him.

In addition you can add to this that Titus is confbiasing hard on fb and still thinks hes scum simply because there is a relationship between him and ss even though they are pretty obviously not scum together, IMO.

She has no need to really scum hunt, either. In fact, I would argue that since we caught scum already further hunting is likely to result in distraction and pushing elsewhere and even a town lynch day 1 and confusion on day 2.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:47 pm

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If SS does flip town somehow then I would obviously reevaluate my reads. My reads right now are based on SS being scum.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:51 pm

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Well then they're all wrong. I'd recommend you rewrite them now (at least hypothetically), because you should have independent reads and maybe a few associative ones.
EE, same for you, but to a lesser extent.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:51 pm

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In post 639, SirCakez wrote:If SS does flip town somehow then I would obviously reevaluate my reads. My reads right now are based on SS being scum.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:53 pm

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Because Titus, EE, AI and Rhazh/Fire all have associative with SS. Some are townreading and some are scum reading so his flip will be invaluable to sorting those reads further.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:55 pm

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In post 641, TheCow wrote:
In post 639, SirCakez wrote:If SS does flip town somehow then I would obviously reevaluate my reads. My reads right now are based on SS being scum.
why

The only read I would be less certain of should ss flip town is Titus, and that's to a small extent. Oh, and Razh too.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 643, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 641, TheCow wrote:
In post 639, SirCakez wrote:If SS does flip town somehow then I would obviously reevaluate my reads. My reads right now are based on SS being scum.
why

The only read I would be less certain of should ss flip town is Titus, and that's to a small extent. Oh, and Razh too.

Was Rhazh an afterthought? Why and how?
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:01 pm

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In post 642, SirCakez wrote:Because Titus, EE, AI and Rhazh/Fire all have associative with SS. Some are townreading and some are scum reading so his flip will be invaluable to sorting those reads further.

I'm town. Adjust your reads accordingly.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:11 pm

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Titus, see all the people declaring SS some variation of confirmed scum and then lining up mislynches to follow him?
See all the people soft defending you and preventing me from pushing on you while leaving you open as a later lynch?

Are you seriously saying that's not bothering you and making you reconsider at all?
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:22 pm

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In post 646, Viva La Gloria wrote:Titus, see all the people declaring SS some variation of confirmed scum and then lining up mislynches to follow him?
See all the people soft defending you and preventing me from pushing on you while leaving you open as a later lynch?

Are you seriously saying that's not bothering you and making you reconsider at all?


SS is confirmed scum, so it doesn't bother me. The defense isn't soft and I'm town.

If people think they can mislynch me while claiming the wagon is right, they got another thing coming.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:23 pm

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In post 638, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:@viva I don't think my logic is off. Perhaps some of my reads but for now I'm certain SS is scum. My Titus town read revolves around the fact that SS is scum and since I am certain beyond reasonable doubt that SS is scum, I must also quell all doubts that Titus is scum with him.

In addition you can add to this that Titus is confbiasing hard on fb and still thinks hes scum simply because there is a relationship between him and ss even though they are pretty obviously not scum together, IMO.

She has no need to really scum hunt, either. In fact, I would argue that since we caught scum already further hunting is likely to result in distraction and pushing elsewhere and even a town lynch day 1 and confusion on day 2.


I'm not confbiasing on FB scum. He's probably town.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:24 pm

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Asbit stands, a SS lynch would bring us somewhere I want to be.

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