Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)

[Viva La Gloria]

Like scum are so brazen about defending their partners and leading terrible lynches and then we've got half this town just sitting there blindly sheeping scum wagons.
You all deserve this loss if you don't lynch Titus today.

[SirCakez]

You said "flip town" twice in the same sentence so I interpreted it that way.

[Viva La Gloria]

k.
I'm not talking to Titus or anyone who townreads her from now on.

[SirCakez]

Good, maybe we'll get a wagon on scum through without your noise.

[pistachi0n]

VOTE: FB

Let's move SirCakes.


@Cerb, he is. But he's not pursuing his speed wagon theory. What how would my flip impact his reads? Did he think the speed was indicative of a town push or a scum push? I followed up with him to get that out of him and he basically was just defensive. The way the conversation read to me was Pisskop saying "If you're going to suspect me for not voting you, we can fix that" rather than the tone of "hey I am trying to scumhunt here, get out of my way". His non prescence doesn't help matters.

I would tell you that I'm a she, and not named Pisskop, but I suspect you know all that already. I can't make you stop, but I'd appreciate it if you did.

I log in on Day 2, I see two people have already voted for you. I went into the day thinking you were scummy, but I didn't know if you were going to get insta-lynched or not, and I would have preferred discussion. So yes, I waited until I saw some resistance to your wagon to vote you. I've explained this before. I thought the speed was indicative of a town push.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

VOTE: Viva

Don't care. Can't hunt with the noise. Kill it or me. Ty.

Good, maybe we'll get a wagon on scum through without your noise.

Yeah...again I get this little yucky feeling that you are just sheeping Titus. I'm not convinced she's scum, but I do begin to think you are.

If I were to give in to Viva's insistence that Titus needs to die and voted Titus, what do I learn if she flips Town? Not a lot: the one pushing her is prob!town.

But if you die, we learn from your flip, as you were the D1 counter-wagon. And while Droog did unvote you on D1, where would his vote have gone on D2 after SS flipped town? There's a reason Droog was targeted IMHO...

I'm still pretty suspicious of TheCow, but I think I'm going to:

UNVOTE: TheCow
VOTE: SirCakez

Because A) you may well be scum, and B) if we do mislynch, you are the best mislynch.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

These wagons are awful. Town just can't stop sheeping scum wagons.
I'm gonna look hella stupid if FB flips town but something tells me that he's not going to flip town.
We really need to lynch Titus and her block, especially Sircakez, Yonom's replacement, and Cerberus.

AI is town. Pretty sure FB is town as well based on wagon makeup.
We need to lynch Titus now or we're never going to be able to.

How about lynching SirCakez today, seeing his flip, then discussing Titus and others on D3? I'll be more amenable to considering scum!Titus after seeing scum!SirCakez.

Cerberus

The reason I think you are my strongest town read is your repeated attempts to break up the SS wagon on D1. I can't see any scum motivation for your D1, hence, prob!town. Maybe I've missed it, but do you have a read list?

[Titus]

Pistachion, I am sorry for repeatedly calling you Pisskop. It's a jerk thing of me to do, even though it was an accident.


Kaag, you're wierding me out here...

[KickAssAndGiggle]

Well, I'm sure that's incredibly useful information, without a reason.

I can't read SirCakez as town and your reason for doing so makes little sense to me: he's just sheeping you.

Why do you think Droog, who had basically already gone inactive, was NK'd? (Not trying to be rhetorical here: genuine question)

[Titus]

I generally avoid N1 NKA. Right now, it's wifom. It presumes scum think like you. Some people like wtf kills, others murder those who scumread them, others murder for day talk dynamic.

I don't think he's just Sheeping me but we can test said theory when I go VLA later. Go to town on him Friday.

[Cerberus v666]

KAAG: I've been incredibly busy and not involved as deeply in this game as I want to. Titus!town is highly probable, TheCow had some scummy bits to his later play, and I need to read other people more as I've intended, and failed, to do for the last several days. So, ya know, 9 reads that are basically nonexistent as far as i'm concerned because I haven't put the time in to develop them in context.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Viva

Don't care. Can't hunt with the noise. Kill it or me. Ty.

Good, maybe we'll get a wagon on scum through without your noise.

Yeah...again I get this little yucky feeling that you are just sheeping Titus. I'm not convinced she's scum, but I do begin to think you are.

If I were to give in to Viva's insistence that Titus needs to die and voted Titus, what do I learn if she flips Town? Not a lot: the one pushing her is prob!town.

But if you die, we learn from your flip, as you were the D1 counter-wagon. And while Droog did unvote you on D1, where would his vote have gone on D2 after SS flipped town? There's a reason Droog was targeted IMHO...

I'm still pretty suspicious of TheCow, but I think I'm going to:

UNVOTE: TheCow
VOTE: SirCakez

Because A) you may well be scum, and B) if we do mislynch, you are the best mislynch.

How is this sheeping? Like half the game has called Viva out for making noise at this point?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Because A) you may well be scum, and B) if we do mislynch, you are the best mislynch.

Hey! Every mislynch is bad at this point.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Well, I'm sure that's incredibly useful information, without a reason.

I can't read SirCakez as town and your reason for doing so makes little sense to me: he's just sheeping you.

Why do you think Droog, who had basically already gone inactive, was NK'd? (Not trying to be rhetorical here: genuine question)

It could be as simple as him being inactive. Inactive players can be unpredictable.

[pistachi0n]

KAAG: Why are you asking why Droog got nightkilled?

[KickAssAndGiggle]

KAAG: Why are you asking why Droog got nightkilled?

Because why would scum just pick a random name out of a hat? Yeah...I'm sure they

can

but how often does that happen.

Droog had scum reads on three peeps, one of them was a towny lynched on D1. Leaving two...

[pistachi0n]

Do you think we can get any useful information out of the N1 kill? I'm skeptical. Scum choose to kill for all sorts of reasons. This is actually something I agree with Titus on.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Do you think we can get any useful information out of the N1 kill? I'm skeptical. Scum choose to kill for all sorts of reasons. This is actually something I agree with Titus on.

Probably not. But sometimes it helps to do NKA anyway. It causes people to react to it, and this may give some insight into how genuine they are.

[AlwaysInnocent]

KAAG is right that scum probably had a reason to kill Droog, but it is hard to find out what the reason is with the limited information that we have. There are so many possibilities. Of course, since there are no PRs, there will be no PR-hunting, which makes it more likely that people are being killed because they get in the way of scum one way or another. But he might as well have been killed because he was inactive and therefore unpredictable.

[AlwaysInnocent]

others murder for day talk dynamic.

Can you elaborate on this?

[Viva La Gloria]

Pistachion, I am sorry for repeatedly calling you Pisskop. It's a jerk thing of me to do, even though it was an accident.


Kaag, you're wierding me out here...

Kaag is literally the most obvious town and as soon as he moves in on your partners he starts weirding you out?
The nerve of you guys this game has been insane.
VOTE: Sircakez
I'd still prefer to lynch Titus but I'm fairly happy with this one.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Yeah. Titus' "town bloc" feels fake as shit.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

Do you think we can get any useful information out of the N1 kill? I'm skeptical. Scum choose to kill for all sorts of reasons. This is actually something I agree with Titus on.

I don't think you can be sure, but it's just one little clue in a sea of clues.

The analysis that led to the D1 lynch:

"He made a comment in RVS that wasn't obv!joke, then said he was joking. SCUM!"

So...y'know, ANY analysis beats that!

[AlwaysInnocent]

Do you think we can get any useful information out of the N1 kill? I'm skeptical. Scum choose to kill for all sorts of reasons. This is actually something I agree with Titus on.

I don't think you can be sure, but it's just one little clue in a sea of clues.

The analysis that led to the D1 lynch:

"He made a comment in RVS that wasn't obv!joke, then said he was joking. SCUM!"

So...y'know, ANY analysis beats that!

Ha.

[SirCakez]

Viva your reads are garbage because you're just townreading everyone who agrees with you and scumreading those who disagree which is a shitty way to do reads and not actually indicative of who's scum and who's town.