Mini 1758: Game Over

[SirCakez]

He's not active enough. If he got his butt on I would but we're never on at the same times.

[camn]

You're confbiasing or scum.

Don't really know what that means. Confbias.
If you wanna talk in words, I'm game. I'm not actually "impossible to talk to".

[SirCakez]

Confirmation bias is basically when you're scumreading someone and you look at everything from the perspective of them already being scum, so everything they post just appears even scummier.

All right where are you on reads from a normal perspective? Like assuming I was confirmed town right now what would your reads look like?

[SirCakez]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ation_Bias
Wiki article on confirmation bias

[RadiantCowbells]

just let her bus you, shh.

she'll get so much towncred later.

[SirCakez]

Nah when I flip town I'd rather the people who were jumping on bad pushes get looked at more.

[RadiantCowbells]

how is that in any way an appropriate response to 404

[SirCakez]

Because you said she was bussing but I'm not scum.

[Elyse]

I do have to say this seems to be a generally pleasant player list for a change. ^__^

[UpTooLate]

OOC I can't help reading everything Elyse says in Alyson Hannigan's voice.

[camn]

ME TOO!

But Cakez..i know what a confirmation bias IS. but how does me having having it indicate that you are town? Because I think that, OBJECTIVELY, your reactions are scummy. From a 'normal perspective'. But more importantly... The things that led UP TO this wagon were scummy. I had no conf bias then. I had no opinion at all. Then your little lie about 'exactly one time'. That was scummy, too. From a normal perspective.

And anyway... When you say 'confbias or scum'.. Are you not simply attacking your accuser rather than the argument...? (which also has a fancy name if we are gonna use debate terms).

Why don't you just tell us who your partners are?

[SirCakez]

Answered when I voted you.

Next attempt at distraction?

Why are you townreading tictac?

What happened to Loki-scum?

Does Zulfy usually dodge games this much? .

"Please please can't we Lynch anyone but me? Please!! ANYONE BUT ME!!". -cakez

These two posts screamed conf bias to me. I'm trying to push my scumreads and you turned it into "desperate to lynch anyone else".
And I asked where your tictac scumread went since I didn't see where it went earlier and you called it a distraction.

[camn]

Did you look back at my post when I voted you?

Because a useless question about something I already addressed? That's a distraction. From any perspective.
And if you didn't even bother to look back? That's because the answer is not relevant to you. Because you already know who the scumteam is.

So...did you?

[SirCakez]

I didn't until after I asked the question because I didn't recall seeing you address it. And then when I did go and look back at it:

And a scumflip here would go a long way to re-affirming my tictac-scumread.. so good.

So you're still scumreading tictac and haven't been pushing him at all anymore.

[camn]

One at a time, grasshopper. One at a time.

[camn]

Ands its confbias of my confbias to hold onto me blowing off your tictac question when you just didn't notice it.

[SirCakez]

On phone.
Loki is readin incrediblt newbtown to me.
That said @loki yer tunneling on the Elyse thing. She's reading very town too.
Prev edit. Ok. Farmer town as well

This is tictac's last post. This needs a lot more pressure.

[camn]

Meta confbias. Confbias^2.

[camn]

Why aren't you pressuring him if you think he needs more pressure?

I personally think I have fucking mind control over tictac and I will be able to clearly see his alignment soon enough. He's no lurker.. He will show his hand.
But you? What's your excuse?

[SirCakez]

My vote is sitting on him as it has been for a while and I'm trying to get more votes on him but people are being resistant.

[UpTooLate]

Cakez. If camn is scumreading more than 1 person, and she sees one of her other reads picking up speed, doesn't it make sense to jump to it? She's provided her reasoning for doing so, and it's not a bad reason. It's not like she's wagon hopping trying to find easiest lynch. You've responded by getting defensive again, and not really pressuring your suspects. Your vote isn't enough to consider pressure.

[Lokiben]

Prodge. Busy tonight. Will catch up tomorrow afternoon.

[SirCakez]

Yeah that's fine. It's just the way the tictac scum push disappeared after she had been pushing it basically the whole game is what was odd.

Tictac ISO adventure

Spoiler:

58 - Super off post, wanted to let camn squirm properly?

66 and 69 - Two waved questions, "should be obvious" and "you're missing the point" used to avoid answering questions

94 - Says his vote on RC for not using spellcheck is only 90% a joke?

96 - This is basically the thing everyone started scumreading me for. Asks RC why he's still voting camn when it was pretty obvious RC wasn't going to explain at that point.

98 - Implies he doesn't think unneccesary defense is scummy.

102 - Already dissected earlier why this was a terrible vote.

169 - Also already dissected why this vote was bad. Also jumps on Zulfy in the same post but never follows up.

213 - Asks a pointless rhetorical question to RC

273 - Uses ika being in the game to say camn is pushing a mislynch, which is terrible reasoning.

278 - Admits that basically his entire scumread on camn is based on meta and nothing else.

341 - Gives a bunch of unreasoned town reads, super fluffy

[SirCakez]

So yeah if you're not voting tictac please tell me why you still think he's town after reading that.

[Performer]

VOTE COUNT 1.08

SirCakez (5): curiouskarmadog, Camn, Elyse, a plain farmer, RadiantCowbells
RadiantCowbells (3): ika, acryon, UpTooLate
tictac (1): SirCakez
Camn (1): tictac
Elyse (1): Lokiben

No Vote (2): Zulfy, Some Random Mafia Player

With 13 players alive, it takes 7/13 votes to lynch.

For deadline & notes, please refer to this post – post 3 !