SAGA FRONTIER MAFIA (GAME END)

[Varsoon]

"I'm starting my own cab company."

-That Annoying Woman Who Makes You Pay 100 Credits to Leave Scrap,

Scrap

VOTECOUNT 3.01

The Cool Cucumbers (2):

Sensei, Drixx

Drunken Pirates (2):

Zulfy, Yosarian2

Zulfy (2):

Drunken Pirates, The Cool Cucumbers

Albert B. Rampage (1):

FIRE

Yosarian2 (1):

FIRE

Skybird (1):

Albert B. Rampage

Not Voting (7):

Klingoncelt, Rylai and Lina, Skybird, DrippingGoofball, Lowkey, Fluminator, ZZZX

With 14 Alive, it takes 8 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-02-18 23:10:00)

The Main Character is

Sensei

The Party is

Albert B. Rampage, Yosarian2, Rylai & Lina, and Drixx.

Spoiler: MC VC

Yosarian2 (3):

Yosarian2, Rylai & Lina, Skybird

Sensei (2):

Drunken Pirates, The Cool Cucumbers

Fluminator (1):

Zulfy

Albert B. Rampage (1):

Albert B. Rampage

Rylai and Lina (1):

Klingoncelt

[Varsoon]

@Varsoon: The verbiage used in Energy Chain for itlepip and Dark Phoenix for GWS is different when talking about their roleblocks. For itlepip, it says they will be unable to take any actions tonight, and for GWS, it says their night actions will fail. The implication there is that GWS permanently roleblocked slots. Is that correct?

-Cerb

For the night that GWS targeted that player, yes.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

@Varsoon: The verbiage used in Energy Chain for itlepip and Dark Phoenix for GWS is different when talking about their roleblocks. For itlepip, it says they will be unable to take any actions tonight, and for GWS, it says their night actions will fail. The implication there is that GWS permanently roleblocked slots. Is that correct?

-Cerb

For the night that GWS targeted that player, yes.

So, the only mechanical difference between Energy Chain and Dark Phoenix is Dark Phoenix makes the target permanently hated, rather than temporarily? Just checking cause the wording is different.

-Cerb

[Varsoon]

Apologies for the inconsistent wording. Yes, they are functionally the same except that Metal Black's ability affects votes-to-lynch permanently whereas Rouge's is temporary.

[Rylai and Lina]

itlepip RB+hated DS N1, and Zulfy N2.

this wasn't what happened

we know we and yosarion are the permanently hated ones since yesterday

Italy was a claimed hated since day 1.

when did zulfy claimed such a thing ?! :/

[Rylai and Lina]

Are you even reading the game?!

~Rylai

[Fluminator]

Fire hasn't spread this round. Interesting.

[Fluminator]

You're not a talkative one, are you.

I started reading TCC iso, and there is just so little content in so many posts it's hurting my eyes.
I'm think TCC and Skybird are our best bets for scum, followed by ZZZX, and outside shots on Zulfy, Goofball, and Klingon in that order.

Gale handled Sky jumping on his wagon much much differently than Yos, Loki, and I jumping on his wagon. He reacted in a very omgus and worried manner when we jumped on and called us all scum. When Skybird jumped on, he reacted:

Pedit 2: Lol Flum, has your read changed on Skybird now?

Reading through GWS' posts the past 3 pages or so, he doesn't look good. The posts feel off to me, as in not how I would expect town to react. I can support that wagon.

VOTE: GWS

Sky, what is the feeling exactly? Can you elaborate?

Also, Sky's vote seems opportunistic to me. What do you think Flum?

It almost felt like he was taunting me that with that one knowing I was scum reading them both. He seemed less interested in Sky's actual vote for him, and more for my reaction.^
And that was basically it.
After that, the wagon just took off on him and he didn't have time to react to all the votes.

Cool Cucumbers vote initially felt like a "screw it, he's going down anyway" vote. But rereading it, voting then when he knew I would hammer and get a power throws me off a little. Albert was still a possible lynch, especially if they pushed for a double lynch, and I would have expected scum them to get a double lynch in. I need to finish re-reading them.

VOTE: Skybird
So many things keep adding up on her and I still have yet to see a town tell. For anyone who doesn't want her lynched, give me a post that come across as townie from her please.

I could be convinced to vote for Cucumbers.

[Fluminator]

If a townie roleblocked someone, there's a good chance they roleblocked scum or fire probably would have spread.

[Rylai and Lina]

Fire is a daily action

Its adding to vote counts from sometime during the day phases

~Rylai

[Fluminator]

Today we are lynching Zuffy, DGB or even possibly Fluminator. Skybird is a possibility however I'd prefer there to be some flips as I've got some interesting interactions there.
VOTE: DGB
¬wgeurts

Why'd you give me the hammer then?
If skybird flips scum, I'm keeping this post in mind.

[Fluminator]

ROFL Zulfy. Thanks for the vote.

[Fluminator]

Fire is a daily action

Its adding to vote counts from sometime during the day phases

~Rylai

Oh yeah. I knew that. Nevermind

[Fluminator]

Yours Truly

Fuse

, With his JOATs

By the way. Why the heck did you claim?

[The Cool Cucumbers]

itlepip RB+hated DS N1, and Zulfy N2.

this wasn't what happened

we know we and yosarion are the permanently hated ones since yesterday

Italy was a claimed hated since day 1.

when did zulfy claimed such a thing ?! :/

Are you reading my post??? I was listing the actions those who have claimed to have access to giving out hated modifiers have stated they took.

Itlepip claimed the rb+hated power yesterday, and he claimed to have targeted DS N1. Right above my post, he stated that he roleblocked Zulfy last night.

Learn to read my fucking posts before you question my understanding of events.

Now, so you are claiming you are permanently hated, and so is yosarian. This means you are not claiming to have been affected by itlepip/skybirds claimed power, but by something else. So your hated modifier did not come from redirection from itlepip.

Did anyone else become permanently hated today?

-Cerb

[The Cool Cucumbers]

Oh, and itlepip wasn't claimed hated since D1. He claimed to be effectively hated, because he felt that Skybird would automatically hammer him if he got to l-1 so she would get his powers.

-Cerb

[Yosarian2]

There's something weird going on.

itlepip RB+hated DS N1, and Zulfy N2.
Skybird claims to have never used this power.
GWS was scum, and had an enhanced version of the ability that itlepips flip showed, and gave permanent hated modifiers.
Yosarian claimed permanently hated on D2, and I believe R&L also claimed to have received a hated modifier. R&L, was yours also permanent, or was it temporary? Nobody else claimed to have used the power.

Three possible conclusions(well, 4?): Itlepip was redirected to R&L, assuming theirs was temporary;Skybird lied;There is yet another individual with the ability to make people hated(perhaps without the roleblocking? I don't believe R&L's claim specified that they were roleblocked either); R&L is lying. Yosarian could be lying, but given that we know a permanent hated modifier power exists, and there was no counterclaim, it's reasonable to assume he actually did have that modifier applied to him.

Zxxx has claimed today that he became hated last night, so it seems there is still someone doing permhatred even with gale dead. That seems to back up R&L's claim.

Sky claims to make a temporary hatred. We can test her claim; if she targets someone and it's temporary then she's not the one throwing permhatred.

Hmm. Zxxc, are you temphated or permhated?

[Rylai and Lina]

I will post whatever I want and I will question whatever I like even after just skimming your fucking posts.

was that clear enough?

~Rylai

[Yosarian2]

Fire is a daily action

Its adding to vote counts from sometime during the day phases

~Rylai

Fulm is right though, we did not see a third persom get set on fire today, which is interesting.

[Yosarian2]

I'm hated

and role blocked :/

Temp hated or perm hated?

[Rylai and Lina]

Fire is a daily action

Its adding to vote counts from sometime during the day phases

~Rylai

Fulm is right though, we did not see a third persom get set on fire today, which is interesting.

w8 a minute

your fire vote happened late as well. and ABR Fire vote happened somewhere middle of day 1.

the one who is casting it is checking this thread late

suggesting klingon / zulfy

~Rylai

[Rylai and Lina]

or he/she is thinking it through which is unlikely becuase Fire voter seems scum

so it must be someone who hasn't checked yet - or it was a brief one

hmm

~Rylai

[DrippingGoofball]

Sheeping Pirates & Cukes

ZVOTE: ulfy

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is ZZZY still alive?

...and why am I still alive, LOL.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

Fire is a daily action

Its adding to vote counts from sometime during the day phases

~Rylai

Fulm is right though, we did not see a third persom get set on fire today, which is interesting.

w8 a minute

your fire vote happened late as well. and ABR Fire vote happened somewhere middle of day 1.

the one who is casting it is checking this thread late

suggesting klingon / zulfy

~Rylai

or he/she is thinking it through which is unlikely becuase Fire voter seems scum

so it must be someone who hasn't checked yet - or it was a brief one

hmm

~Rylai

Correlation!=Causation
I don't see any reason to think that someone couldn't check in and then use their fire later in the day. Also, scum have had the entire night to plan their moves. It's absurd to think they didn't have a target in mind for their fire, or a planned time to use it. It's also not impossible that the fire is town. It's unlikely though, because we have KC claiming their own anonymous voting mechanism, and we've seen evidence of town hated modifier creation along with a similar power from scum.

Anyways, the point is someone checking in or not checking in is weak evidence that they control the fire vote.



Also, FA: This is a game of words. We talk a lot. If you can't be bothered to properly comprehend what other people are saying, you're doing something fundamentally wrong. People get things wrong sometimes, and I understand that, but I will not abide someone misinterpreting what someone else said. That spreads misinformation and doesn't help anyone but scum. Your stubbornness on this front is anti-town, and I suggest you consider whether or not there's any strategic merit to being obstinate about this and not just reading peoples posts properly.

That's the last thing I'll say on this matter,

-Cerb

pedit: hmm. Someone on our list of people who have displayed no town merit and need to be lynched joining us on the wagon of another? :-/

pedit x2: What do you mean DGB? Are you saying you should have both been lynched already because you haven't done much this game?