Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)

[Titus]

Sorry been playing Xcom. It's a lot of fun.

[Firebringer]

Sorry been playing Xcom. It's a lot of fun.

Have you encountered the toothless npc? O_o

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I need to check that one out, I've been meaning to try to take a break from dota. It looks pretty cool.

[Titus]

Sorry been playing Xcom. It's a lot of fun.

Have you encountered the toothless npc? O_o

Oh he's a PC and grenadier this play through.

[Titus]

I need to check that one out, I've been meaning to try to take a break from dota. It looks pretty cool.

Totally

[SirCakez]

So we have two days left to consolidate a wagon and all is quiet.
The vanity votes still need to move.

[SirCakez]

Cerberus - you haven't placed a vote the whole day. Take a stance on something, this is ridiculous.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I had a weird dream last night and all I can remember is Titus, a knife, and the color red. This means at least one of four things:
1. Titus is scum and has the blood of droog on her hands
2. Titus kills scum and will have their blood on her hands
3. Titus is town and will die tonight
4. I have weird dreams that have no relation to the game at all.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I had a weird dream last night and all I can remember is Titus, a knife, and the color red. This means at least one of four things:
1. Titus is scum and has the blood of droog on her hands
2. Titus kills scum and will have their blood on her hands
3. Titus is town and will die tonight
4. I have weird dreams that have no relation to the game at all.

Are you claiming cop?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Because I am already the bulletproof cop.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Yep. I'm an odd night lynch proof cop that gets their results with a linked image and a color and results show something that has happened, could happen, or is happening right now.

[TheCow]

I'll probably catch up today. From my reading, this game is getting stagnant.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

@mod: I voted for firebringer in 1250

Apologies. The quoted vote caused me to miss the non quoted vote. ~Drixx

So is Firebringer @ L-1?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Vote Count 2.6

AlwaysInnocent {1} - Firebringer
Cerberus v666 {0} -
Viva La Gloria {0} -

Titus

,

Extrapolated Eagle

KickAssAndGiggle {0} -

Karnage

pistachi0n {0} -

TheCow

Firebringer {4} -

Extrapolated Eagle

, Extrapolated Eagle, Titus, SirCakez,

AlwaysInnocent

, Karnage
SirCakez {1} - KickAssAndGiggle,

Viva La Gloria

TheCow {0} -

SirCakez

,

Titus

,

AlwaysInnocent

,

Titus

,

KickAssAndGiggle

Titus {4} -

AlwaysInnocent

,

Viva La Glora

, pistachi0n,

Firebringer

,

TheCow

,

Viva La Gloria

,

AlwaysInnocent

,

AlwaysInnocent

, TheCow, AlwaysInnocent, Viva La Gloria
Extrapolated Eagle {0} -

Viva La Gloria

,

AlwaysInnocent

,

TheCow

Karnage {0} -

Not Voting (1): Cerberus v666

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2016-02-09 18:00:00) from now, or February 9th, 6:00 PM Eastern (GMT-5).

Prodding: N/A
Replacing:

Spoiler: Stirkethrough Free VC

Vote Count 2.6

AlwaysInnocent {1} - Firebringer
Cerberus v666 {0} -
Viva La Gloria {0} -
KickAssAndGiggle {0} -
pistachi0n {0} -
Firebringer {4} - Extrapolated Eagle, Titus, SirCakez, Karnage
SirCakez {1} - KickAssAndGiggle
TheCow {0} -
Titus {4} - pistachi0n, TheCow, AlwaysInnocent, Viva La Gloria
Extrapolated Eagle {0} -
Karnage {0} -

Not Voting (1): Cerberus v666

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2016-02-09 18:00:00) from now, or February 9th, 6:00 PM Eastern (GMT-5).

Prodding: N/A
Replacing:

This Vote Count brought to you by the Moment in Time Foundation™, making great use of the curly brace and the letter "F", on behalf of one of the coolest cats I know.

L-2 by this vote count

[KickAssAndGiggle]

I see, count was edited to take Karnage's changed vote into account, coolio.

One thing SirCakez and I can agree on is that I probably should vote for someone who can be lynched. It seems even those who are voting Titus don't see the (obvious) benefits of SirCakez first. OK, I guess as the new kid on the block I'll reluctantly go with that for now.

Choice between FB and Titus...hmm...let me have one more ISO browse and then I'll pick.

[TheCow]

I read up on the Fire wagon. I do not understand it. It was a vote move, but I don't see why.

[SirCakez]

Where should the votes be Cow?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

@thecow, this is my case on fb from a while ago

in case everyone forgot all the reasons firebringer is a good lynch, here's every post made by his predecessor, oh and btw, all but one is scummy/scum motivated:

I think you're scum with SS. Discuss.

I think you're trying too hard to jump into conclusions.

Best to just play the game naturally instead of planning out our strategies D1. If I don't know what I'm doing the Mafia surely can't counter my play.

I think you're scum with SS. Discuss.

I think you're wrong. Discuss.

Seriously I'm still in D1 shenanigans mode why are you looking into this?

Echoes post above it. Which means he waits until town doesn't it so that if someone jumps on him he can jump on someone else for it and say "they did it first"

Vote on SS is now serious.

SS how exactly are you coming to that conclusion?

Echoes again

Lol you guys realize 21 was a joke right.

Vote on SS is now serious.

Interesting. Explain?

It definitely didn't sound like a joke. Now I feel like you're trying to cover your ass.

More echoes

Also note how both of these players thought it was ridiculous for Titus to call them out as scum, but one jumped on Titus for being ridiculous about both and the other one jumped on the first because she was right about one.

Why would razh get on ss for thinking Titus was ridiculous if he thought the same thing like his first post shows?

I can't help but think that razh is thinking"if I turn on ss and he flips town then both of us are cleared, right?"

I don't like how Phantom tries to force his playstyle and not let it come naturally, but that isn't necessarily alignment indicative either. Besides it's best to not tell the Mafia what they can and can't get away with.

Changes the subject and tries to distract from the attention on him and ss

VOTE: Rhazh
Attacking people without voting to support it, making unprompted references to what the scum want or do, inconsistencies in play. Overall feels like he is trying to fit in and play like everyone else is.

I'm sorry I'm more used to a different site where the meta isn't to vote whoever you push. Speaking of I'd like to see if there actually are any associative tells against me in 3 pages, because I sure as hell don't see them.

It's been pages and the only thing he responds to is the vote on him? And what's this about associative tells?

I'm about to reread the thread and look more into a few people's ISOs, but just a quick note. I've played enough games with SirCakez to say this. If Cakez is playing like Town, he's scum. If he's playing like garbage, he's Town. Believe me on this I've seen him play amazing as scum and terribad at Town.

Giving thoughts can be towny ish except this post also shows that he isn't caught up since instead of sharing his read on cakez, he tells everyone else how their read is wrong. No risk for him because he's not sharing his read

VOTE: AI

Yeah no saying Town are confident isn't a scum tell unless you want to use it to back up a case of IIoA or something. Also your read on me is 100% bullshit fishing for Town cred.

Defensive and what? I don't get this post. Still only responding to pressure against him.

Also votes to distract from ss wagon, he's avoiding it for some reason, maybe to get out of vca easier or there's too much scum on it already

SS how many times are you gonna say you weren't serious after you get called out on something?

Confirms that he's still scum reading ss while pushing a counter wagon

So you think I'm dumb enough to pull out a serious associative tell on page 1.
Noted.

Cause it was a joke
Relax, titus

I'm almost never confident day 1.
But that doesn't mean I don't have reasons.
And I haven't changed any of those reads. I voted Rhazh because he was mildly scummy. Then you were scummier so I voted you. Then AI was scummier so I voted him.
You're basically saying that once you have one scumread you should ignore everyone else and death tunnel that person. That's antitown.

I agree with you man.

This is disgusting buddying.

VOTE: Rhazh
Attacking people without voting to support it, making unprompted references to what the scum want or do, inconsistencies in play. Overall feels like he is trying to fit in and play like everyone else is.

This doesn't sound like "mildly scummy".

I'm sorry I don't have your magical ability to discern town from scum on page 3, but for me anyway scumreads that early can only be so serious.

More of the above

Rhazh: You were saying earlier that you're townreading Cakez based on meta. Can you link me to some games that will illustrate your point?

http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/vi ... 17&t=34298

Catching up rn.

Says catching up never does

SirCakez is clearly Town. Ignoring my "he plays bad as Town joke", he normally tries to hide in the background and give much weaker opinions. I can tell here that he's actually scumhunting and not faking it for Town cred. Also AI your reads list is bad.

Good for sharing a single actual read. This is probably his town post

Firebringer replaces RhazhBash.

End.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

Firebringer

The only good reason I have not to vote FB is that FB read SirCakez as possible scum, which I agree with.

I don't expect people to defend a wagon on them, but to present cases on others. You can kinda fit FB's contribution on D2 on a post-it note.

Also, not a fan of the exchange between him and Eagle: if you think someone's logic is wrong, say why. The statement without the explanation is pointless.

Titus

Nothing has changed here, still suspect more likely to be town. I've asked the guys/gals wagoning her for a better reason than being wrong on D1, but nothing good enough has been offered.


If I can't get SirCakez (sigh), I'll have to compromise.

VOTE: Firebringer

Firebringer is @ L-1

(I am very fond of Yoshi, and I'll miss the Avatar. )

The big issue with this game is that nobody is coming across as obv!town. There's no PR's, scum know who we are...there's no point in being coy, town.

[Viva La Gloria]

Firebringer

The only good reason I have not to vote FB is that FB read SirCakez as possible scum, which I agree with.

I don't expect people to defend a wagon on them, but to present cases on others. You can kinda fit FB's contribution on D2 on a post-it note.

Also, not a fan of the exchange between him and Eagle: if you think someone's logic is wrong, say why. The statement without the explanation is pointless.

Titus

Nothing has changed here, still suspect more likely to be town. I've asked the guys/gals wagoning her for a better reason than being wrong on D1, but nothing good enough has been offered.


If I can't get SirCakez (sigh), I'll have to compromise.

VOTE: Firebringer

Firebringer is @ L-1

(I am very fond of Yoshi, and I'll miss the Avatar. )

The big issue with this game is that nobody is coming across as obv!town. There's no PR's, scum know who we are...there's no point in being coy, town.

You don't see an issue with the immediate Titus/Sircakez/Karnage vote block, the same block that was on SS, jumping onto Firebringer together to create a counterwagon for Titus?
Like I'm not sure what to say to you her besides that the answer is glaring you dead in the face.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

I do see a problem yes: SirCakez is sheeping the hell outta Titus.

Doesn't make Titus scum though.

[Viva La Gloria]

Extrapolated Eagle, Titus, SirCakez, AlwaysInnocent, Karnage

SirCakez, Titus, TheCow, PhantomCobalt, Yonom, Extrapolated Eagle

Familiar?
Same votes, same shitty town wagons.
Titus is scum. You wanna push scum's counterwagon for them that's your prerogative, but if I get NKed you better fucking make Titus happen.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

You don't see an issue with the immediate Titus/Sircakez/Karnage vote block

What about Eagle? Is he above suspicion for you?

[Viva La Gloria]

EE's narcissism strikes me as far far more likely to come from town than scum.

I COULD see him as scum but it doesn't seem likely that he'd white knight to this extent on town. MAYBE this could be his way of defending scum!Titus; but again, better choices.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Confidence is the word I believe you're looking for. Overconfidence, perhaps.