NY 193 : Werewolf Mania (GAME OVER- TOWN WIN)

[pisskop]

RC, is your scumread of SS for meta or in-game? You havent really described it very well :/

[pisskop]

You were in a game with him where his posts were fatter and more frequent.

[Some Random Mafia Player]

UNVOTE:
If ss is voting for Nero, then Nero probably isn't scum. Notice how once again snarky jumped on a wagon without giving any reasons and then slunk off back into the shadows. So scummy.

VOTE: snarkysnowman

if hes so scummy, why did you not vote him originally?

[BlackStar]

I've called him out multiple times, but other people keep distracting me

[PeregrineV]

I metaed SS, and his play as scum is to lurk. Even in his own PT. He replaced in though, so that ruins what I could get.

Here's a town game for him.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

[BlackStar]

I metaed SS, and his play as scum is to lurk. Even in his own PT. He replaced in though, so that ruins what I could get.

Here's a town game for him.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Really? Wow

[Nero Cain]

UNVOTE:

Well that's no bueno.

Why?

FOR GOD'S SAKE, MAN. Will you STOP asking, why, how, when & where and actually GIVE ANSWERS instead???

What have I not answered?

Like my simplified Piss case is here. It maybe lacks some expounding and I forgot to add a few things in it. But I don't know, its like maybe that's how mafia is played these days where ppl just don't give any reasoning for half of everything but its annoying and not how I learned to play. Its also p fucking sad that I have to prob players for content.

[pisskop]

I metaed SS, and his play as scum is to lurk. Even in his own PT. He replaced in though, so that ruins what I could get.

Here's a town game for him.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Oh wow. I was looking at his earlier games, and 617.

RC?

[Golden Robster]

BlueRose was on it (and was confirmed scum). Iso'd Blackstar and I think maybe the other scum on that wagon? But I read Almost as scum a lot more. From order of Towniest to Scummiest, RC, Zulfy, Piss, Masq, Zulfy, SRMP, BLackstar, Almost

VOTE: Almost

You placed Zulfy twice on the reads list. Well, which one is it?

What has Zulfy done to make you so certain that he's town?

Blackstar (3) - Zulfy, Nero Cain, Almost50
Nero Cain (3) - pisskop, Blackstar, SnarkySnowman
SnarkySnowman (2) - Masquerade, PeregrineV

We seem to have three potential lynch candidates but I want to hear more from Zulfy.

First one on the blackstar wagon; with no reasoning or explanation.

I'd settle for a Snarky/Blackstar lynch. Blackstar seems to have a hint of aggravation in his reactions to the accusations against him but I sense that he's floundering slightly. Especially with mistaking that player list for a reads list (that was a wtf moment)

I'm pretty sure Nero's leaning towards town with the tunneling on PK, if not playing a dangerous game as scum

Nero Cain (3) -

pisskop, Blackstar, SnarkySnowman

This wagon gives me weird vibes. I'm pretty sure that there's at least one scum in this trio, if not two. That's why I'm settling for a Blackstar/SS lynch at the moment.

Compared to the other wagons, I'm sensing a dynamic arising from these players.

I wouldn't mind a lynch on Blackstar, because it will provide a strong read on these players.

Blackstar (3) -

Zulfy

, Nero Cain, Almost50

I'm hesitant, because a part of me thinks that Blackstar might be town; that's why I'd prefer a lynch on Snarky. If he flips scum, then Masq & Pere would be leaning town for me.

If he flips scum, well then... i would be worried about those two.

SnarkySnowman (2) - Masquerade, PeregrineV

That's why I prefer a SS lynch compared to a Blackstar one.

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

At L-1, I want a claim from you.

[Nero Cain]

piss is still scum btw but I may as well lynch other scumreads until I can get him.

[Golden Robster]

piss is still scum btw but I may as well lynch other scumreads until I can get him.

I agree slightly, I think we can keep him on the leash until more evidence arises. If SS flips scum, I'd be looking at him.

vote: blackstar

FOS at you snowman

[PeregrineV]

BlueRose was on it (and was confirmed scum). Iso'd Blackstar and I think maybe the other scum on that wagon? But I read Almost as scum a lot more. From order of Towniest to Scummiest, RC, Zulfy, Piss, Masq, Zulfy, SRMP, BLackstar, Almost

VOTE: Almost

You placed Zulfy twice on the reads list. Well, which one is it?

What has Zulfy done to make you so certain that he's town?

Blackstar (3) - Zulfy, Nero Cain, Almost50
Nero Cain (3) - pisskop, Blackstar, SnarkySnowman
SnarkySnowman (2) - Masquerade, PeregrineV

We seem to have three potential lynch candidates but I want to hear more from Zulfy.

First one on the blackstar wagon; with no reasoning or explanation.

I'd settle for a Snarky/Blackstar lynch. Blackstar seems to have a hint of aggravation in his reactions to the accusations against him but I sense that he's floundering slightly. Especially with mistaking that player list for a reads list (that was a wtf moment)

I'm pretty sure Nero's leaning towards town with the tunneling on PK, if not playing a dangerous game as scum

Nero Cain (3) -

pisskop, Blackstar, SnarkySnowman

This wagon gives me weird vibes. I'm pretty sure that there's at least one scum in this trio, if not two. That's why I'm settling for a Blackstar/SS lynch at the moment.

Compared to the other wagons, I'm sensing a dynamic arising from these players.

I wouldn't mind a lynch on Blackstar, because it will provide a strong read on these players.

Blackstar (3) -

Zulfy

, Nero Cain, Almost50

I'm hesitant, because a part of me thinks that Blackstar might be town; that's why I'd prefer a lynch on Snarky. If he flips scum, then Masq & Pere would be leaning town for me.

If he flips scum, well then... i would be worried about those two.

SnarkySnowman (2) - Masquerade, PeregrineV

That's why I prefer a SS lynch compared to a Blackstar one.

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

At L-1, I want a claim from you.

Only L-2, but let's keep it that way. There needs to be way more activity before ending the day.

[Golden Robster]

Hey. I've read the first five pages or so. Here're my preliminary reads in no particular order.

Scumreads:
Blackstar
pisskop slot (not with Almost50)
Xkfyu
GoldenRobster
Almost50 (not with pisskop)

townreads:
Nero Cain

Interesting, you think Almost and the post about voting himself was scum indicative?

Xkfyu? Please point out why.

Town read on Nero. The only thing he said was post #68. How has that allowed you to form a definite town read of him?

Once you catchup, I want a reads list from you.

[Nero Cain]

I agree slightly, I think we can keep him on the leash until more evidence arises.

What makes you think he's scummy besides that wagon placement thing you talked about?

[Golden Robster]

Only L-2, but let's keep it that way. There needs to be way more activity before ending the day.

I meant once someone else votes him. When he hits L-1, I want a claim.

I want to make this clear.

NOBODY SHOULD HAMMER UNTIL WE ARE NEAR THE DEADLINE. INTENT TO HAMMER SHOULD BE STATED CLEARLY.

I don't want some idiot hammering without hearing what everybody else has to say. Not only is this helpful for town in terms of interaction but I want to hear thoughts from the people who have to catch up and others.

[Golden Robster]

Not helpful*

[PeregrineV]

Only L-2, but let's keep it that way. There needs to be way more activity before ending the day.

I meant once someone else votes him. When he hits L-1, I want a claim.

I want to make this clear.

NOBODY SHOULD HAMMER UNTIL WE ARE NEAR THE DEADLINE. INTENT TO HAMMER SHOULD BE STATED CLEARLY.

I don't want some idiot hammering without hearing what everybody else has to say. Not only is this helpful for town in terms of interaction but I want to hear thoughts from the people who have to catch up and others.

He doesn't need to be at L-1, because then he can self-hammer and end the day. L-2 is fine.

[Golden Robster]

I agree slightly, I think we can keep him on the leash until more evidence arises.

What makes you think he's scummy besides that wagon placement thing you talked about?

I wouldn't outright say he was scummy for now. As I said before, the flip from SS will tell us a lot.

vote: blackstar

FOS at you snowman

Soft defending SS?

PK was suspicious of Keysor and read Zulfy as town. With no reasoning, it's kind of similar to what I've experienced with him.

I'm really not sure what to make of it. On one hand, I'm honestly content with where PK is currently but on the otherhand, if SS flips scum, I'd be carefully looking in his direction.

I don't have much reason to believe that he's scum apart from the wagon placement; that's why I'm satisfied with the position he's in.

[Golden Robster]

Only L-2, but let's keep it that way. There needs to be way more activity before ending the day.

I meant once someone else votes him. When he hits L-1, I want a claim.

I want to make this clear.

NOBODY SHOULD HAMMER UNTIL WE ARE NEAR THE DEADLINE. INTENT TO HAMMER SHOULD BE STATED CLEARLY.

I don't want some idiot hammering without hearing what everybody else has to say. Not only is this helpful for town in terms of interaction but I want to hear thoughts from the people who have to catch up and others.

He doesn't need to be at L-1, because then he can self-hammer and end the day. L-2 is fine.

Fair point. I'd hope that Snarky wouldn't self-hammer but who knows.

[pisskop]

Soft defending SS?

Actually I am hesitant to lynch SS. I dont think I would kill him today if I were king.

[pisskop]

His response to those questions from me were good. Actually, they flowed a lot like my own train of thought

[SnarkySnowman]

Golden Robster is also pretty clearly scum.

[Golden Robster]

Golden Robster is also pretty clearly scum.

I want to hear some explanations rather than "this" kind of statement.

[Almost50]

Golden Robster is also pretty clearly scum.

I want to hear some explanations rather than "this" kind of statement.

I second that to be honest.
@Snarky: You realize it's D3 now, right? You're not supposed to keep everything to yourself for that long.

[Almost50]

Oh, and whatever happened to the rest of your ISOs?