In post 8220, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Fuck off Yosarian2. We were never going to shoot without towns approval and you KNOW it, because you should know by now that we're not idiots.
CC, don't take it personally. But you don't have a town win condition, you are not a protagonist, which means I do not trust you to act in the town's win condition unless you are forced to. And even then I expect you to stab us in the back as soon as possible.
And no, I don't really expect "do what we say or else we lynch you" to keep you "leashed", not by itself. I've seen that tried before, and it never, ever works.
How many vigs may be left was fucking immaterial, there was never going to be a time when taking a shot and hoping to hit one of them would exist (without us gaining further powers so as to make two shots in one night), because there would still be fucking scum alive and so we'd be lynched for doing it the next day.
Let me put it this way. Until you know, for a fact, that there are no vigs left, I wouldn't expect you to put your full heart into actually trying to find and eliminate the scum. Until you are sure of that, it's in your best interest to be a roadblock, both at day and at night.
Now, either you're going to be dead, or else you're going to know for a fact that your interests lie with helping the town win as quickly as possible. From the town's point of view, that's a pure win-win.
Do whatever the fuck you want. If we live until tomorrow so be it.
Don't take this personally, man. I'm playing for the town win condition the best way I know how.
And, Yosarian: if you're not scum, and that was motivated by the best interests of town, know that you're just removing a threat to scum for them, that they wouldn't have ever wanted to spend a shot on because we're a spare mislynch for them.
If there is a vig left, then you are a threat to the town, period. Sooner or later that vig will be in a position where he or she will have to claim, and when he or she does, then we're going to have a REAL issue if you're still alive.
If there are no vigs left, and we KNOW that YOU know there are no vigs left, then maybe we can start to work with you.
I know it seems harsh, but this is still a much better deal then I was willing to offer you a few days ago.
Who's the troll?
