In post 1892, Nicole Mimi Tithel wrote:This is mostly directed towards people scum reading Rob but I'm curious why YT is only putting me as "inclined to think is scum", too.
That was answered in 1860
In post 1892, Nicole Mimi Tithel wrote:This is mostly directed towards people scum reading Rob but I'm curious why YT is only putting me as "inclined to think is scum", too.
In post 1598, YT2980 wrote:In post 1597, grapes wrote:Like yes we want wagons but let's not restrict ourselves too much ya know?
Yeah, I understand that. This was an idea that threw me from a loop when a player in another game brought it up. It does make it more difficult to analyze things.
In post 1899, Venmar wrote:In post 1578, YT2980 wrote:How could you view Titus as scum, though? Was it sincehelabelled you among the scum in his reads?Hehad aafter as town, looking back at it, which was false.
Titus is a beautiful female
In post 1901, Venmar wrote:In post 1598, YT2980 wrote:In post 1597, grapes wrote:Like yes we want wagons but let's not restrict ourselves too much ya know?
Yeah, I understand that. This was an idea that threw me from a loop when a player in another game brought it up. It does make it more difficult to analyze things.
Why the fuck would you propose a tactic that makes things harder to analyze then
In post 1562, Rob14 wrote:pops definitely doesn't seem town from his limited posting history, and I really hate his #672. I don't think #149 is a slip of having extra info, though. He's saying that Venmar was offering a misleading statement that doesn't even consider multiball, and that's kind of a fair point. He isn't speculating multiball, just saying it's not a possibility we should take off the table. I don't see that as requiring inside info.
#672, on the other hand, focuses entirely on people's reads on himself rather than the actual major focus of the thread since his last substantive post, which was Dwlee. All he really offered was a "yeah, I could get on this wagon" in terms of Dwlee. That's pretty bad. Way too much weight on defending something that was a non-issue vs. scumhunting. No independent reads other than reacting to what's in the thread.
On the other hand, I kind of want more than 5 posts from him before deciding he's the Day 2 wagon. We need a higher quality lynch than lynching a lurker here, imo. If he continues lurking, obviously he's not getting anywhere near LyLo, but I'd rather have content to judge him on.
In post 1563, Rob14 wrote:VOTE: beeboy
For a few things:
- Seeming to have static rigid reads where new information was not factored in. I noted this with regard to his Dwlee town read, especially. A townie considers new information when forming reads, but beeboy was very resistant to doing that for a long time. When you say "A isn't scum because X isn't scummy" and someone shows you that X didn't actually happen, that bears more than a "doesn't matter", which is basically what he gave.
- His sharp turn-around on Dwlee and the timing of it. He drew my vote and people were starting to look at him, so he changed his read. I don't really get how the post he cites as being particularly influential in the change is actually that much different than what I had been saying all along. I consider it more likely that he decided opposing a wagon on town was becoming too costly and so he decided to just hop on to ease pressure than the alternative - that he genuinely had a complete change of heart after a dozen or more pages of rigid arguing where neither of us was giving an inch. I probably shouldn't have just taken that "victory" for what it was on Day 1, but meh. Something to consider about my play in post-game.
- His odd as fuck read on Titus. He said at one point that the mod didn't have a meta of using PRs, so he didn't believe Titus' PR. That was just weird as fuck. I don't know how he went through the mental gymnastics to hint at that causing a scum read, honestly.
In post 1169, Rob14 wrote:If nothing else, it will be fodder for my beeboy read later on.I'm kind of split on him atm.I don't like his reads, especially the recent one on T S O, and I thought he was scummy when failing to adjust his read on Dwlee when new information was coming out. But then he did adjust, and it kind of seems like he just wasn't understanding what I was saying (which, admittedly, probably wasn't helped by the pure rage of one thousand suns). If I had to throw him on a side at the moment, I'd probably throw him on misguided town over opportunistic scum.
In post 1694, Rob14 wrote:So I just remembered to actually check my PMs and read what my night action result was.
Nicole Mimi, claim now. If not, you're getting quick-lynched. I have an incriminating result, but I'm not going to say what type so that the counter-claim cannot be tailored. I want a full claim - name, role, and who you targeted last night, including result of said action.
In post 1905, Venmar wrote:Aside from the fact that Beeboy's reads aren't actually very static
In post 1887, Nicole Mimi Tithel wrote:I would like anyone whodoesn'tbuy the guilty result on me to explain why the hell scum-Rob would claim a guilty on me, when all it'd do is probably get him lynched the next day. And ya it could have been a legit guilty even if he is scum here, but if he was scum, with an info role and got a guilty, why would he openly post it and basically tell the other scum team to shoot him?
In post 1694, Rob14 wrote:So I just remembered to actually check my PMs and read what my night action result was.
Nicole Mimi, claim now. If not, you're getting quick-lynched. I have an incriminating result, but I'm not going to say what type so that the counter-claim cannot be tailored. I want a full claim - name, role, and who you targeted last night, including result of said action.
In post 1887, Nicole Mimi Tithel wrote:I would like anyone whodoesn'tbuy the guilty result on me to explain why the hell scum-Rob would claim a guilty on me, when all it'd do is probably get him lynched the next day. And ya it could have been a legit guilty even if he is scum here, but if he was scum, with an info role and got a guilty, why would he openly post it and basically tell the other scum team to shoot him?
In post 1755, pisskop wrote:ignoring him? I directly addressed him.
In post 1850, PeregrineV wrote:In post 1753, Rob14 wrote:In post 1746, Nicole Mimi Tithel wrote:In post 0, Skullduggery wrote:04 Aafter (Professor Nakayama, Hyperion Corporation Compulsive Focused Bodyguard) Was Killed on Night 1
First question: are there flavor reasons for speculating multiball here? FTR Skull's last game had a N1 with 3 kills and it was mafia/SK/vig, so I don't find multiball on that reason compelling; however, to my knowledge this is the first time he's specifically included a flavor name with the scum flip.
When I say multiball, I include mafia + SK, but YMMV. Different people mean different things. There definitely could by Hyperion Corporation and Bandits as the two scum groups, which is what I think is most likely, but that's all speculation based on not a whole lot.
Interesting speculation. Last Borderlands game I was in, players were members of the gun manufacturers, and some of them were scum, while the rest were town. Why Bandits instead of, say, Jakobs Corporation?
In post 1906, Venmar wrote:AND YOU JUST FUCKING "FORGOT" AN INCRIMINATING RESULT?
In post 1777, pisskop wrote:It means Ima let others do their thing and observe.
In post 1860, YT2980 wrote:In post 1853, SirCakez wrote:In post 1839, YT2980 wrote:I still think pisskop IS scum. I'm inclined to think Starbucks/Nicole is as well.
Only inclined to think she is scum? Do you not trust Rob or something?
Rob did say there was a slim chance he was wrong, iirc. I'm inclined to think both are, I don't know for certain.
In post 1915, beeboy wrote:In post 1906, Venmar wrote:AND YOU JUST FUCKING "FORGOT" AN INCRIMINATING RESULT?
Although I do think Rob is scum due to his tunnels all game but my problem with this is the same problem with the Dwlee wagon. As much as this is scummy af I can't evaluate the risk vs reward in this situation to make a scum ever want to do it.
In post 1916, Venmar wrote:I mean at the very least i'm not going to follow a blind "guilty" that I don't trust from Rob. Whether he is scum or isn't, I won't vote for Mimi unless he convinces me he isn't full of shit.
In post 1918, Rob14 wrote:In post 1860, YT2980 wrote:In post 1853, SirCakez wrote:In post 1839, YT2980 wrote:I still think pisskop IS scum. I'm inclined to think Starbucks/Nicole is as well.
Only inclined to think she is scum? Do you not trust Rob or something?
Rob did say there was a slim chance he was wrong, iirc. I'm inclined to think both are, I don't know for certain.
No, I didn't. I said that my role allows for a chance that I get a false negative (i.e. I can't be sure that those who don't test in an incriminating way are innocent), but a guilty is a guilty. It's definitive.
I briefly entertained redirection as a possibility since Mimi brought it up, but my night action result is worded in such a way that it would be bastard if I had been redirected.
In post 1906, Venmar wrote:In post 1694, Rob14 wrote:So I just remembered to actually check my PMs and read what my night action result was.
Nicole Mimi, claim now. If not, you're getting quick-lynched. I have an incriminating result, but I'm not going to say what type so that the counter-claim cannot be tailored. I want a full claim - name, role, and who you targeted last night, including result of said action.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS FOR A SINGLE FUCKING SECOND
YOU MEANT TO TELL ME
THAT YOU HAVE A NIGHT ACTION
AND YOU JUST FUCKING "FORGOT" AN INCRIMINATING RESULT?
nu-uh
vote: rob
Then there's also the fact that I have reason to believe Mimi's version of the claim.
In post 1826, pisskop wrote:i could pick at the poor practice of wanting to crap out one massive apathy inducing post for the purposes of looking like effort and an excuse to lurk but Im frankly interested in what MR WIKI has to say about this whole game.
In post 1908, Venmar wrote:Rob went so balls to the wall to tryign to allure his role without claiming that I think he should just claim at this point because if he's town he's fucking dead anyways.