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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:47 am

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In post 724, Dwlee99 wrote:I didnt pick up on it, scum could have missed it ;-; Wekp rip the people in my town blockerino.
VOTE: Ari

With at least 3 scum the chances are pretty low that all of them will miss it.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:10 am

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In post 697, Aristophanes wrote:Garmr, I think your reactions are a bit over the top.
But I'll trust Johnny on you.

IOW, you'll continue to ride Johnny's coattails without really contributing anything.

Pers, why are you criticizing Johnny for playing a fine tuned game rather ran taking it, working with it, and trying to get on his level? You almost seem to discredit him there for being
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at mafia. Like wtf?

The WTF is that you read what I wrote and take it as criticism and discrediting - unless you're purposely misrepping it. I am watching his play, and after he flips I'll learn something from it.

Rica, care to expand upon how my play will get me killed, and whether or not it's scum indicative?

When you weren't on insanity yesterday, you were mostly on rica. Why now this softball question lobbed to him? This also goes to Johnny - as you were pushing rica late yesterday, I would have thought he'd be the initial focus today.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:17 am

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In post 722, JohnnyFarrar wrote:2. I've clearly stated on multiple occasions I find Ari scummy just don't like the reasons people have for voting him

How about telling us why? I have a hard time believing you find him scummy after you made what feels like a knee-jerk defense to Garmr's charges. You were pushing rica late yesterday but don't seem interested in that. You say you find Ari scummy but you defend him. I really don't know what to think about you at this point.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:21 am

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In post 723, Garmr wrote:
1.Your power role is what you wasted. It's obvious your shift from garmr looks suspicious to garmrs just stupid town has something to do with a power role and people don't want to say it because they are hoping scum is dumb enough not to picked it up which I doubt.

Seriously? Don't give up a possible PR to scum, they might be dumber than you think.
2. You have a great way of showing it your just getting in the way of ari and defending him as hard as possible you are basically killing his wagon. What do you find him scummy for btw?

^^ This.

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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:25 am

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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:59 am

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In post 723, Garmr wrote:Your power role is what you wasted. It's obvious your shift from garmr looks suspicious to garmrs just stupid town has something to do with a power role and people don't want to say it because they are hoping scum is dumb enough not to picked it up which I doubt. You could of used it better since anyone else wouldn't of used it on me or you could be at least subtle about it by like waiting half the day and faking a reason to town read me and dropping a hint in there. You just sentenced me to death by a night kill after you die and I was enjoying working out this game out. That's why I'm so frustrated you of dropped your results in such a better way.


I really don't like how you assume that the change in his read on you is the result of a power role.

I see garmr's case on aristo and it mostly makes sense, but I'm reluctant to believe that my town read on him was false so I'll wait for a response from him on this case before I decide whether I change my read.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:22 am

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In post 718, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I mean just because you're town doesn't mean you can't be wrong. Treat me like I'm dumb, explain in simple words why Ari is scum.
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Awesome Johnny is awesome!

Also, Gar, I just wanted to point out that Johnny is a great Mafia player despite whatever you may think. I have seen games end prematurely because he's been that good at catching scum, and he's successfully caught me as scum as early as my 2nd post before.

This is all non game related, but I will defend him on a personal level if you attack him like this because it is but unwarranted and untrue.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:24 am

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I have read up to Gar's nice long post.

Dwlee, I'm gonna have to reread the posts just before it because I don't know who you're talking to or what about.

Lowell, why the "I think I townread Ari yesterday" stuff?
You definitely did.
I was in your supposed "town block!"
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:40 am

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Honestly, and I'm going to get pilloried for this because I'm sure it's anit-town, but frankly I just haven't been paying much attention beyond the first part of D1. I had a "town block" based on early reads and just sort of coasted on those reads hoping not to die. So now, when folks who have clearly been paying more attention all find you scummy, then yeah, I'm going to have to think about it.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:55 am

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Not to worry Lowell, that was more a clarification on how you said things.
Pay attention now then. Rethinking is good :)
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:59 am

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Garmr, you're a dummy for thinking Johnny would ever be this obvious about a night result. And how is his playing devils advocate yo your case a bad thing?

Also, people townreading you doesn't immediately make you King of town. I see that high horse you're on.

On the walls of arguments about me, I'm flattered I guess.

I dropped a lot of my care about this game yesterday.
Coming into it today, I wanted to restart and get some reads. So I questioned people a d am waiting on responses.

Also, I made that question post last night then went to bed. Few have been addressed yet.
So how am I using it to give little info? I'm using it to sort people, but it hasn't even been a full day and I need people to respond before I can.
This last bit of your case is such a stretch it's quite amazing!
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:10 am

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There's 30 pages of content. I think you can work on sorting people without answers to those few questions.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:13 am

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In post 736, Persivul wrote:There's 30 pages of content. I think you can work on sorting people without answers to those few questions.
I'm sure I can.
But I don't feel like it.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:05 am

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I am happy w/ garmr leading town. He should.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:07 am

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In post 738, Dwlee99 wrote:I am happy w/ garmr leading town. He should.
Because he is town or because he is loud?
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:08 am

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In post 739, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 738, Dwlee99 wrote:I am happy w/ garmr leading town. He should.
Because he is town or because he is loud?

Because he is town and a good player.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:13 am

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In post 740, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 739, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 738, Dwlee99 wrote:I am happy w/ garmr leading town. He should.
Because he is town or because he is loud?

Because he is town and a good player.
Okay cool.

What do you make of his interactions with Johnny?
What is your stance on the latter?

And do you think i'm scum?
If so, why?
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:15 am

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Johnny and him are town.

Yes, and there's already a plethora of reasons out there and I believe I have stated why multiple times.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:15 am

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In post 698, Dwlee99 wrote:I got the noncommital shit from insanity's iso, figured they knew what they were talking about. :I
Does this still stand as a reason?
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:17 am

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Also, do you have any questions for myself?
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:29 am

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Not rly.
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:40 am

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In post 745, Dwlee99 wrote:Not rly.
Oh.
Okay then.

I was hoping some "let's sort Ari" momentum might occur.

Oh well!
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:41 am

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It already has.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:42 am

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In post 747, Persivul wrote:It already has.
Well why wasn't I invited!? XD
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:43 pm

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Still haven't really caught up on stuff, sorry.

In post 733, Lowell wrote:Honestly, and I'm going to get pilloried for this because I'm sure it's anit-town, but frankly I just haven't been paying much attention beyond the first part of D1. I had a "town block" based on early reads and just sort of coasted on those reads hoping not to die. So now, when folks who have clearly been paying more attention all find you scummy, then yeah, I'm going to have to think about it.


Lowell, what is a town block to you? We've sort of discussed this stuff a few times and I'm wondering if we're just misunderstanding each other and thinking about different things.

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