Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)

[TheCow]

What are the odds that scum buses?

[Drixx]

In place of a vote count, which would just be a re-paste of VC 4.0 with nobody voting, I would like to address something that came up in thread: It's totally cool with me whomever wants to play in my games. I'm a new and unproven mod and have no special draw or anything. Also; I'm not a grudge holder. Even if I was, see the first point. Finally: I <3 Cerb for being a good friend, and I totally understand why he would ask what he did, but it's really not a problem. I would have just addressed this privately, but I was gone long enough that it was drawn out publicly in the thread, so I thought I'd answer it publicly.


Also - Searching for a Replacement for AlwaysInnocent. Due to the nature of this game's setup, the day will be extended indefinitely until a replacement is found and a new deadline posted when one is found.

[pistachi0n]

What are the odds that scum buses?

It's riskier than in normal games because we can win with one scum alive.mso them sacrificing one of their own for a win might backfire.

[TheCow]

pistachio, which three players are scum?

[TheCow]

I also do not understand how the identity of Viva changes anything.

[TheCow]

Cerb is our lynch today.

[Cerberus v666]

I also do not understand how the identity of Viva changes anything.

It doesn't change much for me. I already had him as likely town, but my knowledge of play that I've seen him make as town just adds a tiny bit more oomph to that particular belief.

RE: Bussing. Well, first of all, assuming AI is town as I feel he is, it's impossible for us to lynch scum today WITHOUT them bussing, if the lynch happens before AI is replaced. That's a fact, and we need to consider it if a lynch does happen before AI gets replaced.

And, this entire game is named after bussing. I think if scum get lynched today, that wagon is very likely to include at least one member of the scum team. Possibly both. The risk is high, but I think the risk of *not* being on the only scum lynch in the game is higher, since if town simply decides to lynch within the pool of people who didn't vote for scum, they're basically guaranteed a win, rather than there being any out of deflecting attention to other members of the same pools of suspects.

[SirCakez]

No we are lynching Karnage.

[TheCow]

Cerb is safer.

[pistachi0n]

pistachio, which three players are scum?

Looking through Cakez ISO, I think he and AI are probable scumbuddies. I noted Cakes was always distancing from AI, only mentioning once in early game that AI had bad reads. Number 3? I'm leaning Cerb.

[Viva La Gloria]

Pist, what's your read on Cow & Cerb?
Cow, what's your read on Pist?
Cakez, what's your read on Cerb?
Cerb, what's your read on Cakez and Pist?

Karnage, full readslist please.
AI replacement (whenever we get one) the same.

What's everyone's Pistachi0n reads?

[Viva La Gloria]

I think that Pistachi0n is probably scum no matter what the scumteam is.
I could see her defense on Cow as being a chainsaw but I could also see it as just having been deliberately contrarian to stay off the major wagons if her partners were on.

The only scumteam I can really think of that doesn't include her is something like
Cakez/Cerb/Karnage
but it's sketchy because of the whole Cakez pushing on Karnage the entire game thing.

[Viva La Gloria]

I still think that Cow is town though, and I don't like how freely people are suggesting that lynch.

[SirCakez]

Cerb is leaning scum, still because of the lack of stances the whole until recently. He's not a high priority lynch for me.
And I agree on Pistach, mostly from sheer POE.

[TheCow]

Cakez, remind me: which three players are scum?

Viva, I'll put my cards on the table when I'm ready

[SirCakez]

Atm I'm thinking Karnage, Cow and Pistach, Cerb is possible interchangeable.

[TheCow]

Cakez is confirmed scum, moving on.

[SirCakez]

My reads are being validated and it feels nice.

[SirCakez]

Is scum just trying to lurk out the game or something?

[Karnage]

Karnage, honestly, from looking over EE's posts yesterday, and the VCA, etc, this really feels like confirmation bias. It feels like you had this idea in your mind of scum!Cakez picking all the kills to remove threats to him in a very hamfisted fashion, and went and found the posts that supported that idea. If you look more closely at EE's iso, he was suspicous of not just cakez(though he did revist cakez a good bit) He also expressed concerns about Viva, you, and myself. I mean, are you so certain of Viva and my alignments that you don't think the suspicions you're levelling at cakez couldn't also apply to us?

Just because EE was suspicious of others doesn't mean cakez isn't scum. I am not "certain" of anybody's alignment but I am confident in my read on cakez.

I still think that Cow is town though, and I don't like how freely people are suggesting that lynch.

what gives you a town read on cow?

[TheCow]

VOTE: sircakez

[Viva La Gloria]

fuck no. unvote that shit.

[TheCow]

UNVOTE: ;-;

[Viva La Gloria]

What's your Pist read?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: sircakez

When can we lynch this?